In the end, what most people seem to care about is their own material conditions
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
on 24 May 11:58
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That’s how most of the wars are lost. Most people will justify the worst crimes their countries do as long as they feel they are personally benefiting from it.
Windex007@lemmy.world
on 24 May 13:55
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Real missed opportunity to have forgone “neigbouring” and let readers decide for themselves if you were referring to putin in Ukraine or Trump in Iraq.
msage@programming.dev
on 24 May 13:55
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I love how this applies to every country that invaded.
It’s been 26 years. I think it’s fair to say he’s an active participant to creating and managing a culture that keeps him where he is, rather than merely being the guy the wind blew in.
And, I’d argue that started very very earlier. He false flag bombed some apartments pretty early on.
crimson_iris@piefed.social
on 24 May 15:58
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I agree, he’s likely done everything he could to make sure people don’t figure out a way to get rid of him. I’m definitely not saying he was a passive participant in the phenomenon. He’s been there for a long time now. I’m just saying he’s more of a symptom of the greater cause that is the sick fucking thing called russian culture. Getting rid of putin alone won’t fix things any more than getting rid of trump in the US will there.
chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world
on 24 May 12:26
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why? is he gonna lose the next super fair election?
chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world
on 24 May 12:25
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oh the russians are in a MOOD. you tell him, girl!
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 24 May 12:41
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It can also result in þe deaþ of anyone who isn’t boot-lickingly loyal. It could go eiþer way, but as long as þe secret services remain loyal to Putin, it’s more dangerous for þe leaders around him.
On 23 August, Prigozhin and nine others including Wagner co-founder Dmitry Utkin were killed in a plane crash as his private jet traveled from Moscow to Saint Petersburg.
No this was more recent, it was just before the parade the other week
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
on 24 May 16:58
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Is there a polymarket bet on who kicks the bucket first, Trump or Putin? Hard to say
optimisticturtle@lemmy.world
on 24 May 17:42
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Those hamberders and old age will catch up to Trump any second now. He’s already had a mini-stroke on national TV. Putin is 7 years younger and is health conscious to the point it was memed on, But unlike Trump, Putin seems to know he’s in over his head and is looking to contain fallout from this invasion. Dr. William Spaniel thinks ‘Putin is done’ talk is overblown though acknowledges things don’t look great at all for Putin in Ukraine or domestically.
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It’ll mean something when they actually do something about it. Everyone grumbles about shit.
Honestly grumbling about Putin himself is a change in Russia. They’ve traditionally applied good tsar, bad boyars to him.
The modern form of this is, “SHOIGUUUU! GERASIMOV!!!”
They aren’t upset that he started a war, just that he hasn’t been very good at it.
Start illegal war with neighbouring country and killing innocent civilians: I sleep.
Economy down the drain: real shit.
In the end, what most people seem to care about is their own material conditions
That’s how most of the wars are lost. Most people will justify the worst crimes their countries do as long as they feel they are personally benefiting from it.
Real missed opportunity to have forgone “neigbouring” and let readers decide for themselves if you were referring to putin in Ukraine or Trump in Iraq.
I love how this applies to every country that invaded.
Historically major changes in Russia happened from the top - general public never participated in the politics
Surely the Russian revolution involved the general public?
Which one? There were a couple.
If Russia turns on Putin, he is cooked.
Main problem isn’t putin. Problem is russian culture. Putin is just the latest turd to float to the top.
That turd has been floating on the bowl for the last quarter of a century…
I’ve been reading this article for 109 years.
It’s been 26 years. I think it’s fair to say he’s an active participant to creating and managing a culture that keeps him where he is, rather than merely being the guy the wind blew in.
And, I’d argue that started very very earlier. He false flag bombed some apartments pretty early on.
I agree, he’s likely done everything he could to make sure people don’t figure out a way to get rid of him. I’m definitely not saying he was a passive participant in the phenomenon. He’s been there for a long time now. I’m just saying he’s more of a symptom of the greater cause that is the sick fucking thing called russian culture. Getting rid of putin alone won’t fix things any more than getting rid of trump in the US will there.
why? is he gonna lose the next super fair election?
oh the russians are in a MOOD. you tell him, girl!
I have been reading this article for twenty years
www.spreeder.com
Too bad that “mood” really doesn’t seem to be relevant in totalitarian dictatorships.
If the mood is bad enough, it can result in death of the dictator.
And Putin has been hiding a lot in his bunker lately.
It can also result in þe deaþ of anyone who isn’t boot-lickingly loyal. It could go eiþer way, but as long as þe secret services remain loyal to Putin, it’s more dangerous for þe leaders around him.
Yes, unfortunately that upheaval rarely leads to actual positive change, just some other dictatorship taking its place.
Yes, but sometimes it works out OK, as it did in Romania.
Nicolae Causescu would disagree if he could.
Ah come on, the first 1550 days of a 3 days special military operation are always the hardest!!!11
Delusional gaslighting
Weren’t there rumours of a general and a possible coup a couple of weeks ago.
I assume he fell out a ground floor window and died from the fall?
Wagner Group Rebellion
First rule of a coup… Burn the ships.
No this was more recent, it was just before the parade the other week
Is there a polymarket bet on who kicks the bucket first, Trump or Putin? Hard to say
Those hamberders and old age will catch up to Trump any second now. He’s already had a mini-stroke on national TV. Putin is 7 years younger and is health conscious to the point it was memed on, But unlike Trump, Putin seems to know he’s in over his head and is looking to contain fallout from this invasion. Dr. William Spaniel thinks ‘Putin is done’ talk is overblown though acknowledges things don’t look great at all for Putin in Ukraine or domestically.
Better late than never?