Hamas terrorists disguised as civilians hide RPGs in blankets before blasting tanks as sick guerrilla method is revealed (www.thesun.co.uk)
from speaker_hat@lemmy.one to world@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 16:53
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The IDF claimed the uncovered footage provides further evidence of Hamas using the civilian population as human shields. Dressed in jeans and a casual grey shirt to look like a civilian, the man is seen later walking through the bomb-blitzed streets of Gaza with the missile hidden underneath a blanket.

Archive: web.archive.org/…/hamas-terrorists-disguised-civi…

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nekandro@lemmy.ml on 11 Jan 2024 16:57 next collapse

The IDF is just manufacturing consent for their genocide of Palestinian civilians. The IDF also still needs to decide if Hamas is a conventional army or a terrorist organization.

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 11 Jan 2024 17:09 collapse

The IDF is not committing a genocide.

The IDF aim is to take down Hamas, and not to destroy the Palestinian population (Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israel–Hamas_war)

The unfortunate truth is that Hamas disguised as Palestinian civilians, and use Palestinian civilians as human shields.

ShepherdPie@midwest.social on 11 Jan 2024 17:25 next collapse

Israel has already wiped out 10% 1% of the Palestinian population after invading their land. If their aim is to simply take down Hamas, why are they telling refugees to evacuate to ‘X’ and then bombing ‘X’? Why are they bombing refuge camps? Why are they murdering these ‘human shields’ as if they have no other option? Quit with your propagandist bullshit.

Edit: got my percentage wrong

Arete@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 17:39 next collapse

Source on your 200,000 dead Palestinians claim?

Bipta@kbin.social on 11 Jan 2024 18:46 collapse

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

24,000 claimed deaths, which is quite horrific.

Arete@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 19:35 collapse

Right, 20-25k deaths (of which about 8k are Hamas soldiers). That’s 1% of the population total, or about 0.8% of the civilian population. The person I responded to claimed 10% without any evidence.

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 15 Jan 2024 14:58 collapse

Where’s the 8k soldiers claim from?

According to here Hamas has 20k-25k members: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jan 2024 15:35 next collapse

You need to remember that Hamas is both a political and military organization - 20-25k Hamas members doesn’t mean 20-25k Hamas soldiers.

Arete@lemmy.world on 15 Jan 2024 17:29 collapse

8k dead Hamas militants estimated by Israeli military a few weeks ago. Overall strength was 20-25k militants at the beginning of the war as you said.

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NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social on 11 Jan 2024 22:31 collapse

1%

Rooskie91@discuss.online on 11 Jan 2024 17:29 next collapse

It’s not that hard to hold three truths in your mind at the same time. What Hamas did was a violation of international law and fucked. Isreal’s response is ouverreaching, targets civilians, violates international law, and is fucked. Antisemitism as a response to Isreal’s actions is a violation of international law and is fucked. We can recognize that what Hamas did was wrong, what Isreal is doing is wrong, and that blaming people of Jewish faith for what Isreal is doing is also wrong. Being on the side of innocent Palestinians is not the same as being antisemitic.

I don’t understand why every argument has to devolve to baseless sound bites absorbed from media by a half alert brain. We can very clearly see that Isreal and Hamas’s beef is being handled irresponsiblely by both sides and innocent civilians are caught in the middle. Primarily innocent Palestinian civilians demonized in assenine article like this.

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 15 Jan 2024 14:14 collapse

Hamas holds, from the beginning of this war, women, children, babies and elderly as hostages in roughly inhuman conditions.

Hamas put the “ethical” threshold of this war, Hamas deserves the consequences.

nekandro@lemmy.ml on 11 Jan 2024 17:36 next collapse

Do you think Hamas is a terrorist organization or a conventional army?

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 15 Jan 2024 14:52 collapse

According to Hamas 2017 charter, they don’t even know:

many Hamas members still regarded its text as controversial

Source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter

While the IDF under “Purity of Arms” clearly states:

The soldier will not use their weapon or power to harm uninvolved civilians and prisoners and will do everything in their power to prevent harm to their lives, bodies, dignity and property.

Source: www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/our-mission-our-values/

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jan 2024 18:23 next collapse

Vladimir Putin’s stated aim is to kill Nazis… That doesn’t mean it’s true.

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 15 Jan 2024 14:09 collapse

It’s not related to this post

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jan 2024 15:32 collapse

No, it’s related to your statement

The IDF aim is to take down Hamas, and not to destroy the Palestinian population (Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israel–Hamas_war)

Keeponstalin@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 19:37 next collapse
small44@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 19:40 next collapse

Under international law, it is a war crime to kill civilians, even under the pretext of a human shield. Israel also uses Palestinians as human shields.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoLEWS5sz4M

Genocide means any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, as such:

  • Killing members of the group:

Over 20,000 in only three months, not counting deaths from diseases caused by the war, lack of food, and water.

  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group:

Bodily harm by the amount of injured people, mentally by the terror caused by bombing people’s houses.

  • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part:

Cutting water from civilians and Daniel Hagari saying that they aim for destruction and not accuracy

  • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
  • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

The proposal to transfer the Gaza Strip’s 2.3 million people to Egypt’s

This is definitely genocide

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Keeponstalin@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 19:51 next collapse

Trueeee

I also want to share BT’Selem’s documentation on the history of the IDF using Palestinians as human shields since 1967

www.btselem.org/human_shields

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 15 Jan 2024 14:04 collapse

Over 20,000 in only three months, not counting deaths from diseases caused by the war, lack of food, and water.

I don’t get where this and the rest of your quotes come from.

Deceptichum@kbin.social on 11 Jan 2024 21:15 collapse

The unfortunate truth is that we’re all seeing with our eyes Israel conduct a campaign of genocide, amongst its other war crimes (abducting children, denying food/water, etc.)

Israel’s lost its support, now all we can hope for is an international response to stop Israel.

Keeponstalin@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 17:10 next collapse

Please don’t make up your own title, copy paste it from the article as per Rule 1

Also these kinds of guerilla tactics are nothing new

…wikipedia.org/…/Strategy_and_tactics_of_guerrill…

www.gcsehistory.com/faq/vietcongtactics.html

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 11 Jan 2024 17:16 next collapse

Please open the article before accusing.

The post title is the article title.

Keeponstalin@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 18:53 collapse

Ah, yeah that is strange how the preview has a different title than on the page

MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com on 11 Jan 2024 17:17 collapse

Yup.

President George Washington would have done the same to the British if he was in the same position.

ShepherdPie@midwest.social on 11 Jan 2024 17:35 next collapse

What does this article prove? It shows a guy holding something obscured by a red outline and someone else in different clothing holding a rug then standing next to a tree. This is supposed to be proof of something? If this came from a video then let’s see the video.

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 15 Jan 2024 14:53 collapse

It proves an evidence that Hamas are disguising themselves as civilians, hence danger civilians to be tagged as possible targets.

The full video is in the article, please read the article and watch the video before concluding the post.

jet@hackertalks.com on 11 Jan 2024 17:37 next collapse

It’s the Sun. They’re not trying to be journalists.

For one thing, nobody who attacks a tank is a coward. That takes fortitude. Because you’re probably going to die. So throwing untrue insults around in the article, is the furthest thing from journalism that you can get

Altofaltception@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 18:07 next collapse

Did you know when you are the aggressor, tanks are civilians?

Edit: /S because it wasn’t obvious

jet@hackertalks.com on 11 Jan 2024 18:16 collapse

Attacking armor in the occupied city you live in is a hall mark of any modern resistance movement, it’s a good way to get killed - so whatever their motivations are, it’s not cowardace

Keeponstalin@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 18:56 next collapse

Lol yeah, the guy fighting a tank in home territory with no body armor and an RPG is a coward, not the guys in the tanks and aircrafts. Those are brave soldiers. 😂

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 15 Jan 2024 14:10 collapse

I don’t agree it’s fortitude, and this article explains exactly the situation.

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jan 2024 18:22 next collapse

Really awesome use of objective language there.

athos77@kbin.social on 11 Jan 2024 19:01 next collapse

Ooh, Rupert Murdoch trash again! Media bias / fact check for The Sun:

Overall, we rate The Sun Right Biased based on story selection and political affiliation that favors the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to overly sensationalized headlines and numerous failed fact checks.

However, they also include this lovely comment in their analysis section:

In review, The Sun is a classic trashy tabloid that features celebrity gossip, current events, and right-leaning news stories. There is significant use of sensational loaded headlines [...]. The paper generally publishes sensationalized, misleading stories with a right-wing bias. Further, a Reuters institute survey found that 13% of respondents trust their news coverage and 64% do not, ranking them last in trust of the major UK news providers.

athos77@kbin.social on 11 Jan 2024 19:18 next collapse

I don't think Hamas has an official uniform. I'll note that, when Hamas wore regular camo,

Israel's i24 News and The Sun in the U.K. claimed that “the terrorists wore our uniforms” and “sick Hamas terrorists used IDF uniform disguise.” source

And now that they have someone in Hamas not wearing camo (I don't know, does Gaza even have a working laundry at this point), both the Israeli media and The Sun immediately switch to

Hamas using the civilian population as human shields. Dressed in jeans and a casual grey shirt to look like a civilian

So basically they're saying it doesn't matter how Hamas dresses, whatever they wear is an evil deceitful attempt to mislead the pure upstanding Israelis.

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 15 Jan 2024 14:07 collapse

Every army has an official uniform, unless they want to blend with civilians.

athos77@kbin.social on 15 Jan 2024 16:44 collapse

Oh, it's you, bringing up this trash article again. Please go away.

Gazumi@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 20:15 next collapse

The Sun is one of the UKs shitttest newspapers. Reading this kills braincells

Clent@lemmy.world on 11 Jan 2024 20:50 collapse

Since this is Hama territory, this is a guerrilla war so the invaders need to accept their targets may not always be in uniform.

speaker_hat@lemmy.one on 15 Jan 2024 14:02 collapse

Meaning that targets intentionally make themselves to look like civils.