China tells its minorities to integrate or face consequences with sweeping new law
(edition.cnn.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 17:07
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from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 01 Jul 17:07
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For years, Chinese leader Xi Jinping has pushed ethnic minority groups like Tibetans and Uyghurs to adopt an identity rooted in Chinese nationality and allegiance to the ruling Communist Party.
Now, that push has been codified into a sweeping new law that reaches into classrooms, neighborhoods and homes – and gives Beijing the right to target people outside of its borders that it believes violate its rules.
The statute, officially known as the Ethnic Unity and Progress Promotion Law, came into effect on July 1. It bans acts that “undermine ethnic unity or create ethnic division” among China’s 56 officially recognized ethnicities, which include a Han Chinese majority that makes up over 90% of the country’s 1.4 billion people.
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Define integrate. I live in a country that I wasn’t born in. Obviously, I follow the laws, but I don’t owe anyone to change my personality. I eat whatever the fuck I want, dress the way I want, etc. I’m allergic to narrow-mindness because it implies low intelligence, among other things
Well don’t move to China!
China doesn’t limit how people dress or what they eat, or even their personality
You can’t, you can get visa’s to stay there but you can never be a chinese citizenship/passport.
This is all about ethnically cleansing the chinese born minorities to be all han chinese.
It’s the opposite, hence this law, kiddo.
Winnie the Pooh, probably
Source?
The Uyghurs.
Ah yes, dealing with radical islamic terrorism is only bad when China does it
And not just “dealing with it.” Ending it by increasing regional economic opportunities, infrastructure projects, increasing access to healthcare and education, and thereby effectively eliminating poverty, the root cause of most crime, including terrorism. Oh, and all of that without impacting the Uyghur peoples’ culture or religion.
At least, that’s what the rest of the world outside of America, Europe, and Israel say.
www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang?rq=Xinj…
Persecution? I thought it was a genocide?
Here’s the wiki article on the law: en.wikipedia.org/…/Law_on_Promoting_Ethnic_Unity_….
Some stuff makes sense - like economic modernization of regions with many minorities (especially poor regions), teaching Mandarin in schools so that everyone can speak the majority language, and preserving cultural works and texts of minority groups.
Other stuff seems repressive, like the broad enforcement section, the extremely broad reach of the law into all public and private institutions, legislating what various actors can/can’t teach the youth if it might “harm Chinese ethnic unity” which is left pretty vague. Very ethnostate-coded stuff on the whole, not great.
Some sections I thought were noteworthy, taken from wikipedia, shortened with DeepSeek. There is lots more stuff in there.
It’s quite standard fascist discourse:
Point to real problem that everybody wants to solve; declare that some policy they want (almost always some kind of racism) is the only solution; do some genocide as the means of implementing the policy.
Define how exact this is a racist policy, please. Be precise.
“Define how this policy targeting the cultural extermination of a racial group is racist. Please be precise. I need nits to pick.”
They weren’t handing out many brain cells the day you were born, were they?
Genocide apologist.
Please, and I do mean this, please read the fucking text of the law.
This is the opposite of cultural extermination. This explicitly defines cultural and language protections wherein the protected groups are required to have their language and culture and history in schools.
You illiterate cunt.
Alexa, what is definitional narrowing? The act of dictating what rights are allowed and preserved while giving the state authority to punish anything they deem outside those boundaries.
“This law is setting up ghettos where the jews explicitly get to live and explicitly defining what parts of their culture they can practice, it’s literally good for them”
Dumbass mf
The reason this law is written this way is because of the US funded and armed East Turkestan movement that has killed hundreds of men women and children and dozens of police over the last 30 years.
That is the ‘ethnic policy’ that no, East Turkestan, a “country” invented in the 1990s by white people that were upset their spy networks in China kept getting executed, is not real and is not a part of Chinese history or culture. Because the East Turkestan movement used propaganda that said the evil Chinese Communists invaded East Turkestan (literally several millennia before communism came to China) randomly and out of the blue and stole away the people of turkey and their land (that just has happened to have been on every single western map of China ever made).
The “ethnicity” is Chinese. All people in China, Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Yue, etc are Chinese. There are sub ethnicities like Uyghur, but they are Chinese.
This law is to reduce racism and radicalism.
I am definitely sympathetic to the defense against foreign dissent-manufacturing. I don’t doubt that is a serious issue.
But, ethnicity and nationality are separate things. Being a Chinese citizen does not make one ethnically Chinese - or in this case Han Chinese. I think what you are calling “sub-ethnicity” here is just what people mean by “ethnicity”. And what you’re implying is “ethnicity” is just “nationality”.
Though I think the CCP is trying to establish the concept of a Zhonghua Minzu (中华民族) or “Chinese Nation/Ethnic Group” - which is an artificial category intended to create a unified Chinese national identity out of the 56 ethnic groups recognized in China - maybe that’s what you mean? Either way, that doesn’t fit the typical anthropological definition, in my opinion.
I think they walk a fine line with that concept - it’d be very easy for that national identity to represent the Han majority more than the small minorities. As evidenced by the language restrictions posed by the law. Given the Han majority is 90% of the country, I don’t see how it could be otherwise.
To the extent that it reduces racism and foreign-sponsored dissent groups, that is good. To the extent that it limits free practice of culture and true, non-US-State-Dept sponsored, free speech, I’d say it’s overly draconian. But, I can also appreciate the need for more “authoritarian” laws in a country that has been under attack by foreign powers for as long as China has.
I am not a Chinese legal expert and have not read the full law, nor do I fully understand the context. So I withhold full judgment and don’t value my opinion too highly.
Same here (I’m on my 3rd migration) and after 5 years I still don’t even speak the language, which is embarrysing but also just fact.
It’s okay when China does it, but not the “west”
For real. This would be rightly rinsed by people here if these were US ethnic unity laws. Alarm bells should be going off in your mind at the mere mention of “ethnic unity laws.” People here are crazy.
Yeah and all the so-called Marxists on Lemmy are all for it. Ask them if it’s something Israel should do and they disappear.
You got humiliated and I felt sorry for you. I didn’t want to embarrass you more.
Asking if an apartheid ethno-supremacist state needs to adopt a Chinese law safeguarding ethnic differences is completely off topic and delusional. You just don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.
Safeguarding ethnic differences through “assimilate or be punished”
You’re a joke.
You are quoting something that doesn’t exist. Please source me the text where china force assimilation or punish people for having one of the 56 officially recognised ethnicities or shut the fuck up. You are embarrassing yourself.
You have your own eyes and you can read it yourself.
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You’re now banned from .ml because man they have some thin skin there.
Am I really? lol. I block ml so I would never know
Edit: im not :(
Isn’t this kinda standard? It would make sense to educate a country’s people in a common language. I don’t believe this is necessarily trying to eradicate the minority languages, patterns have generally shown that the languages just coexist.
As for unity in nationality, such a thing also makes sense.
Article reads as just another “haha china bad” hit piece from CNN
Countries with large native minorities usually teach using the native language. For example in the UK there are Welsh medium schools for native Welsh speakers. This is usually not done for migrants, but only for local native languages. In the case of China there are more then a dozen none Chinese native languages with over a million speakers. For some you could easily set up universities and so forth.
Although in Wales, english is already known and used by government services, same in Ireland. Only 81% of Chinese people can speak Mandarin.
In Wales and Ireland the native languages were deliberately subjugated, and are only recently being deliberately re-prioritised. It’s a sore point among both populaces
So to compare the amount of speakers pre and post language erasure isn’t that helpful I don’t think
Doesn’t mean China will necessarily subjugate and erase them though. Minority languages can still be seen represented across China, even on the banknotes. As well as celebrating ethnic minorities, united under the five-starred red flag. It’s likely an effort to just make mandarin a first language.
“Ethnic unity” is a euphemism for ethnic cleansing.
Evidence?
Show me a country that has engaged in cultural extermination that doesn’t couch it in terms of unity. That’s literally the core of fascism. You need one nation. One party. One race. One identity. That’s the definition of fascism.
I don’t think they’re advocating for one race here
They’re literally advocating ethnic unity. Not unity between ethnicities, but ethnic unity implying one.
Ethnic unity = one race
It doesn’t get more synonymous.
No one’s going to believe you’re that stupid so stop acting like you’re not just a troll.
Lol. Legal protection for minorities framed as a bad thing.
I think you misread the statement you’re quoting. Can you elaborate on what your take on it was?
My take was “China is banning acts that undermine a general Chinese Ethnic unity or create Ethnic Division (saying one group is different than another, you know, like a cultural pride or language teaching services in their native dialect would be examples)”
I read this to mean that the law is in place to do what they can to prevent outside agents from intentionally sewing separatist beliefs, as in outside groups (like maybe the CIA) sending people in that try and break up the unity of the larger Republic of China into smaller groups based on racist or ethic differences.
The statement from Beijing explicitly states it allows the minorities to practice their own language, and the 56 officially recognized minorities are considered part of the Chinese culture under this law, and protects those cultures.
China is constantly being battered on all sides by other agents from outside of their borders attempting to convince small areas to succede or separate from the Republic, and this bill is in place to prevent ethnic division on those grounds.
that’s my reading.
Is the CIA in the room with us right now?
Aren’t you the guy that defended Israel’s genocide?
Oh you must be some dumb fuck’s alt. All you fuckin sock puppets should be banned. Wanna point out which comment in my public comment history condones any of that shit? Or you just gonna pull some other bullshit whataboutisn? Israel has as much right to exist as you have reasoned positions. Fuckin ding dong dipshittery. Quick now call me blue maga or that I’m working for republicans or whatever nonsense projection you rubes are using these days.
Sorry for the off topic, I’m filling up a questionnaire. Do you think israel has a right to exist? :)
If Israel has a right to exist all the white people need to get the fuck out of north America. And you’re not sorry, you’re shit-stirring because the left loves to infight and purity test, I know because I do it too.
You’re the only genocide denier here
It’s not appropriate for a government to be doing this kind of thing. And it doesn’t protect minorities it erases them.
I’m from Silesia which is now part of Poland after the WWII. All my grand parents were born in Germany and then the borders moved and the land became polish.
But it’s more complicated, because my ancestors were fighting against both the polish and the Germans to make Silesia an independent nation, but they failed. Two of my great grandfathers ended up in concentration camps because of that, one in Auschwitz and another one in Dachau.
When my dad started going to achool he spoke Silesian, a mix of polish and German which was usual there. His parents were called to the principal countless times that they have to do something about it because German was not allowed in school.
When my grandfathers sister who lived in Germany because she fled there - came to visit him they spoke German at the bus station because she didn’t speak polish. Someone called the police and my grandfather spent two weeks in jail for this.
When I started to go to school, it was still forbidden to learn German, so I was supposed to learn Russian instead.
My parents finally had the possibility to flee to Germany and only there 1989 we all started to learn the language of our ancestors, two generations later.
Still to this day the polish government is afraid of the separatistst movement in Silesia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_independence
China has the exact same problem as Poland. Before Xi they have been quite relaxed with it. My wife was born into a Korean family in north east China, she didn’t speak Chinese until middle school. They had their own identity, Korean schools, Shops, etc, no integration needed.
But separatism is dangerous for countries, it brings a lot of problems, fighting, security concerns, etc. It’s just easier and more harmonic if everyone pulls to the same direction. Poland crushed the German identity by constantly putting people into jail and making it impossible to live a normal life and by mixing the rest of the german population who for whatever reason couldn’t flee to Germany after WWII. And they did so very successfully I might add. Now Xi is learning from this success and doing the same with their minorities.
Unlike what happened with your grandfather, China isn’t getting rid of local languages. They are requiring both in schools, the local regional language (down to microregions, so not everyone in Xinjiang has to learn Uyghur for example which would destroy more than a dozen cultures). This change simply requires mandarin to be taught alongside the local culture and language, so that Uyghurs aren’t trapped in Xinjiang and can actually find work in Beijing without having to take years of Mandarin lessons.
It’s amazing how many downvotes you are getting just for refuting the genocide narrative with simple facts and logic. I can’t tell if people are so afraid of being labeled a genocide denier or if they are genuinely this propagandized that they just instinctively react emotionally to anything that counters their worldview. It’s sad, to be honest.
It’s the latter. Unironically the CIA has made amazing strides in psychological operations compared to their older work despite their massive failings lately in direct interventions.
Despite them admitting to doing the same thing in regards to Tibet, wherein they claimed an impossibly large genocide and totally accidentally supported a child rapist who wants to return to a kingdom that allows him to have infinite child sex slaves, they were still successful in their campaign of making Americans pretend to care about Uyghurs and a genocide that has no evidence behind it.
So when they, the Americans and other groups affected by said propaganda, receive new propaganda like the most uncharitable reading of a positive law that actually protects cultural identity, ensures continued education in endangered languages and cultures, while still enabling the economic boon that comes from being able to speak the same language as 86% of all businesses in the country… they just believe that interpretation. Cognitive Dissonance is a serious problem amongst propagandized populations (warning, ironic link) and I don’t know how exactly to combat that except act as a beacon of diverse opinion and fact so that some of them might possibly break out of their conditioning, or at least start to question why they agree with the CIA over actual people living in the region.
Edit; if you’re wondering why, exactly, I choose to over cite my sources on this and other specific lemmy.world subs, cross check the [redacted]
This puts the cart before the horse. Nations are supposed to serve the needs of people. People are not supposed to serve the needs of a nation. If your nation needs to go to the extreme lengths of forced ethnic integration to keep a region from breaking free from your country, maybe that region simply doesn’t belong in your country and never should have been a part of it. That’s not harmonizing a nation; that’s conquest and ethnic cleansing.
Separatism is a problem if the country’s government wants to preserve unity by force. If the country embraces diversity, separatism becomes weaker and even irrelevant.
This is continuing an act of genocide against the Uyghurs.
and other minorities
No, requiring Mandarin classes in schools so they have some economic opportunities in life is not an act of genocide kiddo.
Trying to eradicate a people’s culture is absolutely a form of genocide kiddo.
Requiring that people’s culture be taught in schools is erasing it?
Maybe my English has degraded but that sounds like the exact opposite kiddo.
Same logic as residential schools in Canada to give native Americans an opportunity by teaching them English…
Except Canada didn’t, at the time, forcibly teach the local Tribe’s culture as a mandatory part of the curriculum. This law requires it (as does the specific regional laws before it in starting in 2018). The only thing this law does is take the pilot program from Xinjiang and make it nation-wide, allowing all of the poorer rural regions to be taught Mandarin and basic Chinese history alongside their local cultural studies and local language, both of which have been required longer than you’ve hated China for allegedly doing the opposite.
Yes I know I’ve read your other comments. It’s the same logic though which is undeniable… The Canadians used exactly the same justifications for setting up the residential schools in the first place to “solve the aboriginal problem” as they saw it. An eerie parallel to China’s domestic “every other culture except Han problem” that they’re solving with this.
This method is tried and true across the world and its exactly how you stamp out other languages and dilute or destroy culture whether that’s the goal or not, just as a consequence of teaching the lingua franca.
The French academy is a good example. Thousands of dialects disappeared because of being required to learn “proper French” as the academy saw it. It worked, which is why there’s far less variation in accents and spelling across France than the UK which took a more organic approach, inadvertently preserving some of the local accents even if the English accidentally wiped out existing dialects due to incentives surrounding employment, along with rail, telegraphy, schooling, and urbanization.
Wiping out competing dialects and cultures is a consequence of industrialization and consolidating the land you have.
Edit: more context and parallels between the residential schools and China’s policy.
Dialects, sure, to some extent. I mean that hasn’t happened yet in industrialized China. The Chonqing accent versus Shenzen which is entirely different thanks to every single region sending people to shenzen over the last decade, but it absolutely can happen. But this is closer to the UK’s attempt to revive Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, and Irish Gaelic wherein new students are taught English, their own language (usually two or three more as optionals) and their own local culture and history first with the country’s history secondary.
It’s not perfect and some specific words and dialects may be lost, but the only other option is balkanization which damns those regions to constant poverty and warfare, especially Xinjiang which is resource rich, on the border with the Terror Sponsor Turkey, and has been the victim of 30 years of US destabilization attempts.
I can understand the general caution, but what other actual solution is there for a country that is older than pretty much all other countries on Earth with a collection of cultures more diverse and region specific than any besides Africa? Modernizing everyone to at least understand the same language is essential for any hope of economic advancement to happen, as intracountry economic migration is essential for social mobility regardless of the economic system in place.
The reason the UK needs to try to revive those dialects and languages is the key here. Having a common language is a necessary part of consolidating your land as an industrialized nation, so I’m not surprised China is doing it. You’re right about balkanization happening if you don’t force people to use the lingua franca.
They know exactly what they’re doing and the consequences though. I think it’s disingenuous to say they don’t. The Chinese aren’t stupid so they know even if they teach both languages, when all of the official print, your own work, clients, friends, messaging apps, government forms .etc use Mandarin it eventually becomes the language primarily spoken at home which is where you can begin to break the link between one culture and the next.
Once that happens it’s possible to drop the local language requirement and a minority of people are mad about it at that point (generations later.) Same concept as second or third gen immigrants here in Canada who can’t speak their parents or grandparents language at all unless they pay for private schooling in an immersion school. I’m not saying China will drop the local language 20-40 years from now but eventually they can if they want and people aren’t going to be as strongly opposed once they’re integrated after decades of forced schooling in Mandarin.
They’re following a well tested method for homogenizing their nation. Canada tried and failed at it for the same reasons the Chinese are trying to prevent balkanization. In the end it’s going to destroy these cultures and it won’t be an accident…
Except all government forms are available in over 50 languages, including Uyghur. Nearly all apps have moved on from the “traditional (taiwan)/Simplified (mainland Mandarin)” split and offer at least 4 or five. qq and Baidu at least are offering translated pages in Tibetan and Uyghur now, and it’s really up to their friend and family group with what language they use.
Except China is just doing what every country that fucked up is now doing. They literally learned the lesson from Canada, France, the US, UK, et al who now all have local languages and culture taught along side the business culture and language. As someone who is both Choctaw Indian and Chinese, I can tell you the former is taught in the US along side English on Choctaw lands. There was period where this wasn’t true. China is just skipping that period and allowing that culture to continue while also not destroying their future.
I think we both agree China needs to avoid balkanization and excessive pluralism if they want to remain stable long term. I think that’s the Chinese view of their own situation as well.
Even if you teach the local language people leave due to urbanization and don’t teach their kids. Your community grows smaller and smaller and eventually it’s just hundreds of people speaking that language or practicing that culture, or nobody at all because they all grew old and died.
It is going to happen, it’s not theory here. This policy is a lot more fair than residential schools in Canada or forced spelling and accent training from the French Academy to homogenize France. The end result is broadly similar though and so is the intention behind it.
It’s going to eventually be like the UK with hundreds of dead dialects and a dozen dead languages spoken by a tiny minority of people.
Minorities in China are going to have a choice to speak their language at home in much the same way that I have a choice about being employed.
So all modern attempts at ‘reviving’ or spreading local language and culture should be stopped, since it’s clearly a lost cause and useless. We should inform Ireland immediately that their their record spread of Irish has been a lie and they should just give up and learn English only and abandon their cultural roots because a lemmy.zip user said all attempts at preserving language is doomed to fail unless you have ten bazillion micronations that never trade…
That’s not what I’m saying. I’m just being realistic here… Plus is reviving these old languages in the UK going to threaten English? Absolutely not, which is why it’s allowed. If at any point a secondary language threatened the primary trade language of a nation somehow, there would be policy to resist it. Are Londoners going to learn Gaelic? Well that’s how the Irish felt when they were colonized by the British. The Irish certainly aren’t going to speak only Gaelic. They’ll know English as well, which is good enough for the British.
Also an understated part of this whole debate I haven’t focused on too much is how dialects are culture. Each region or town had its own dialect and local customs even if they were ruled by the same king or emperor in premodern times. It’s not a coincidence that European separatist movements can be divided among dialects of a language, like Catalinian separatism from Spain.
That’s also what lead to literal Balkanization as well. Shared languages and dialects deciding cultural borders when a nation fractures.
Even the revival of Gaelic or Welsh doesn’t undo the destruction of industrialization homogenizing a nation. You’ve already permanently lost the regional or local culture of each town and it’ll never come back. There wasn’t a single “Welsh” or “Gaelic” language prior to English replacing it, just like there wasn’t one version of English prior to industrialization. The concept of a universal national language only practically became a thing with the advent of railroads. Otherwise people didn’t move around enough to need a nationwide common tongue. One of the few exceptions to this is ironically China, which had a strong centralized bureaucracy and education system that taught the Imperial language.
It’s just a natural consequence of modernization. It just happens, and now China is making a concerted effort to accelerate it and guide it. They teach simplified Mandarin so everyone reads and speaks the same trade and work language. It’s what every other nation has done, and it’s going to happen the same as how French, English, German .etc all displaced local or regional dialects and cultures into extinction.
True but when you add in the sexual violence, the forced sterilization, the sexual violence and the mass murder it starts to look pretty damning.
Notice how I didn’t have to call you kiddo because my argument stand up for itself?
Fun fact, this happens at all prisons all over the world, and the perpetrators are arrested, charged, and imprisoned for it when it does happen.
Fun fact, while this was claimed by individuals that once alleged they had family members this happened to in Xinjiang, there was never any evidence of this provided during the UN probe, and the UN probe failed to find any victims of this. Just ‘Families’ of ‘victims’ that could not locate said victims despite allegedly being in contact with them.
This didn’t happen, unless you’re talking about the US-lead terror attacks across Xinjiang which lead to the security increase and economic investment in the region. Kiddo.
I will stop calling you kiddo when you decide that, unlike a child, you will actually look up evidence yourself instead of thinking “RadioFreeAsia” and other NED sponsored outlets.
Think for yourself says the genocide denier.
My guy no international observer has ever found evidence of a genocide. Not a single one. There have been no less than twenty international and UN investigations into this because of US propaganda. China is one of the most investigated countries in the history of the UN and Interpol.
What was it you libs kept saying about Hillary Clinton? If she was hiding something surely it would’ve been found in the hours and weeks of interrogation she went through or the massive investigations?
Apply that same logic to a country that has fully complied with all international requests and investigations.
Your whataboutisms don’t cover the sounds of genocide denialism.
Learn what words mean.
You exhibited both whataboutism and genocide denialism in your last comment so what exactly are you taking offense to?
Incorrect, I did not. Please read comments before typing new ones to avoid confusion.
No international observer found evidence of the German Holocaust either until after the war. Just saying…
Except in that case international observers were not allowed free roam of Germany including the prisons that supposedly in the case of China are these industrial extermination camps 10-20x as large as Germany’s.
None of that has happened. You have been fed propaganda.
www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang?rq=Xinj…
You are a genocide denialist.
Look at Mr. Reactionary over here, pitching a fit because I (and the rest of the world outside of the West) disagree with his CIA-sponsored worldview.
I don’t think that point out that you’re denying a genocide is pitching a fit.
Okay, just look into what the US and Canada did with their “cultural education” program for indiginous peoples and tell me this doesn’t smell the same.
Cool, again if you read the comment you’ll know I’m Choctaw. I’m very, very well versed in the various cultural genocide attempts of the US. This does not smell the same. It smells like the current education available to Indian-priority schools within the 10.5 counties of the Choctaw nation today, which is the language being taught alongside English, and history class for an entire year being Choctaw history and cultural studies, with at least one day a month for the rest of the years covered being a cultural day.
It smells like what Irish people have described their school life since Gaeilge became a requirement for graduation, wherein school is taught in both languages. Where traditional Irish culture and modern Irish culture are both taught.
It smells like what those programs said they were, in an honest attempt to avoid making the same mistake.
Source: CNN, aka, Fox News II but a bit more serious. They are the same sources that denied the genocide in Gaza for so long, and are still trying to gaslight us about it. Both trying to win Trump’s and half of America’s approval, people who hate China unconditionally, not just the government, but the people too, unfairly, after being conditioned by movies, shows and videogames like Fallout that paint China as “always malicious, plotting something against us in secret…”
After America proved to have a critical amount of influence over Taiwan, I don’t blame China for wanting to integrate most ethnic groups into one, so they don’t get influenced or taken over by foreign actors ran by Jeffrey Epstein Class members like the USA or Europe. It’s the same thing I feel about my country Mexico; there are so many MAGAs here thanks to republican messages bleeding in indiscriminately. I don’t want “republican culture” nonsense touching my country. It sucks. I can’t imagine the hatred a lot of Chinese felt when USA tried to tell them what is best for Taiwan. If USA tried to do the same with say, Yucatán or Cancún, I’d vote for more desperate measures like forcing them both to integrate into Mexican culture ASAP, before they get rotten by “American culture” which is racist as hell. I think we should be doing something like that already: get rid of absolutely all American Republicans here before they spread their bigotry. Shit is contagious.
China is at least doing it with diplomacy, unlike America, Europe or Spain, which pretty much eradicated most of the indigenous cultures here in the entire continent of America. Currently killing LGBTQ culture too, still bullying transexuals to death, or taking certain rights away from them, like taking away their specialized support in the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline so they die more easily or disassociate overtime (I’m glad it’s failing, though).
You made me go and read the content of the Ethnic Unity and Progress Promotion Law, and there’s nothing in it that promoted genocide or killing. It contains clauses like:
“It obligates the government to support ‘inter-embedded community environments’ so that ethnic groups can ‘live, study, build, share, work, and enjoy together’.” “It mandates internet service providers to promptly stop the transmission of ‘information containing ethnic hatred, ethnic discrimination, or other content that undermines ethnic unity and progress.’” (better than doing it on behalf of only Elon Musk and Epstein like Reddit did) “It vows to support the standardization, digitization, and preservation of minority texts.” …
I don’t trust any government, I’m sure there are flaws and people in power who will not respect it like most boomers in power today are not allowing Marijuana in Mexico to be sold at all even after being legalized 2 years ago. Cops with rancor who won’t leave you alone if you decide to plant Marijuana at your home, even if legal. So many people here avoid paying the minimum wage properly or in time, and get away with it too. There’s also the Narco thriving and all that, because the law is weak and America keeps giving them guns to kill us with, which is also killing our culture slowly but effectively; it is stagnating it with stress, pain and hopelessness. 30,000+ Mexicans die every year just to fulfill USA’s whims. We don’t have that many companies dedicated to making videogames, or are as proficient in technology because people die young here, it is very difficult to focus on difficult disciplines like physics, math, chemistry, etc when the entire country is constantly on fire, you have no liberty to go outside in peace, are in constant fear… Bad economy, bad nutrition, bad experiences trying to learn, so much mental fog, so much fatigue, so much pain, this is what the USA brings forth. And they’re now filling our country with immigrants, “ex-pats” that provoke a raise in prices around them, which slowly and silently displaces the poorest groups here; people who die to poverty and you never hear about them or what they had to said because they never received the chance to read more or learn more. They become another number and that’s it. You just saw that “30,000 lives lost every year” and it doesn’t really impact you as it should. It’s a lot of wasted potential, lost to homicides caused by some capitalistic greedy pigs. I don’t hear about shit like this happening in most other countries, it’s mostly USA and Mexico, losing 20,000+ and 30,000+ people everyday to senseless violence that shouldn’t be there in the first place.
China has its issues too, they are 4x times the size of USA after all. Organizing such a massive country is difficult, but you should learn from them. USA only has 335 million people and it’s already on the risk of extinction just 250 years later after being born. Chin
It’s pathetic the mental gymnastics people will perform to justify a genocidal state’s actions just because they like the flavor of their authoritarianism.
Says you, doing it for Israel and the Jeffrey Epstein Class instead, by promoting CNN which is known for serving those two with a fat smile on their face. I prefer China over your pedophile oligarchs. That’s just the final fact the entire world wants you to understand.
It is also not genocide, you don’t have real evidence of it being so. Your sources are CNN and Fox News. Get out of here. The UN hasn’t called it one the same way it has with Israel. These numbers, these stories you will bring up, how do I know they are even real or not just another “BLACK PEOPLE IN OHIO ARE EATING DOGS AND CATS” type of nonsense being forced upon our throats by the same sources that denied Israel’s genocide?
How do we know this is not just the average Western propaganda of dehumanizing an entire subset of people just the same way you did and keep doing with Muslims and Arabs? You successfully convinced a big portion of the world that they are all “terrorists,” “inherently evil,” and so on. You taught a lot of people to automatically hate brown people. All to commit genocide in the open for decades. How do we know this isn’t the same thing, but aimed toward China and the Chinese? They are your biggest threat right now. Economically and technologically.
What the fuck are you on about??? Where did they defend billionaires?
By promoting CNN, he’s promoting a source that is known for serving the Jeffrey Epstein Class. He’s normalizing it, giving it reputation. Thanks to him, people will believe CNN more often, be more vulnerable to the propaganda they subtly spread, like their anti-socialist comments about people like Zohran or recent socialist winners like Kiroz, Valdez, etc.
It’s almost like they are trying to win your blind approval with headlines that make you feel good, like hating China, just so you believe them more often when it comes to dismantling socialism. I refuse to accept that. I am still open to being proven wrong about China, but not with these. You come across as incredibly untrustworthy. If anything, you’re only going to strengthen positive public opinions about China if you keep relying on CNN or Fox News for these narratives.
Wow that’s the laziest argument I’ve ever seen.
All your replies are MAGA-coded: Simplistic, short, an attack to the messenger, not the message. “Wow, that’s the laziest argument I’ve ever seen” without explaining why or answering anything. That’s literally how Republicans reply online all the time.
You are likely a Jeffrey Epstein Class supporter, trying to stop people in Lemmy from using critical thinking.
Otherwise, go on and prove to us that it is really a genocide, and not just more Western propaganda to dehumanize China the same way you dehumanized Muslims so you could genocide them, you disgusting monster. It’s literally your talent to justify genocides with shit that makes you sound morally superior. You are committing second-hand genocide on Mexico and the Middle East while saying you’re not, so, how can we trust you with this one? How can we trust anything you say about China is even real or not, if you have gone as far as lying about your own people “eating cats and dogs” or committing crimes at rates they are really not…
I’m against all genocides.
What Israel is doing to Palestine is as horrible and as disgusting as what China is doing to the Uyghurs or what Russia is doing to the Ukrainians.
Ok, it seems you don’t really have any genuine tangible evidence to back anything up, you just rely on headlines and vibes. You probably don’t even read the article or the content itself, because it was so vague.
Thanks for showing me that you benefit the Jeffrey Epstein Class. I am done here. Witnessing another monster further getting millions of innocent people killed by spreading this type of attitude and promoting sources like CNN, is just too disgusting. I don’t need this today. I’ve already dealt with so many MAGAs this week.
And never forget to say “What the USA AND Israel are doing to Palestine and Lebanon.” Not just Israel. The USA is the biggest problem there, they are the enablers. Even the Nazis were inspired by the USA’s way of handling things, like their praise for eugenics, racial segregation and anti-miscegenation laws. I wonder why?
Show me where I’ve sourced CNN or Fox once in this conversation.
This post is from CNN and you’re rallying behind it like it’s your big brother. Don’t try to argue semantics here, man. Just own it. Are you one of those leftists who hate socialism and still think America should be the “World Police”?
We can cut the chase here and just answer this simple question: If forced to choose one to be the role model for the world, the one under the global spotlight, which one do you think would give us a better world? China or the USA? No other choice, imagine you only had those two. Which one would you choose? If you answer that, you will easily show us who you are, if you truly care about the truth and the people as you imply.
I’m not playing into your false dichotomy.
I knew you couldn’t show an example because you’re imagining reason to get upset about.
So, your answer is obviously the USA, no? You really think the USA is still a better place than China. Great. Goodluck with that stance in the next decade. You better learn Mandarin, brother. There’s a reason the rich in your country are doing that.
Dude, I already told you this post is from CNN and you are defending it. That is no different from promoting it, or using it as a source. You are defending an argument made by CNN, that’s reason enough to be upset about, because their messages have gotten millions of innocent people killed. As I said, Mexico keeps losing 30,000+ people to gun violence thanks to people who blindly support claims made by your media without digging a little further at all. Not even two scraps on the dirt with your nails. You just read the headline and that’s it, you think it’s 100% “correctly true.”
You will never have real conviction or passion for what you fight for, because you’ve never been as close to Death as we have. I have seen you in Lemmy for like 2 years now, when Reddit banned APIs. You have a reputation here for being disruptive or controversial, but I never expected you to be like this.
I didn’t give you an answer because the real world is more complicated and nuanced than the question you asked.
Again you’re just making up reasons to be mad at me.
You made a big claim, that China is committing genocide, and you refuse to answer why or prove it. You made me go and read the goddamn law, because I am genuinely curious to see if it has holes that can be abused to kill or commit cultural genocide, but I found contradictions, which you’re refusing to address, and instead reply like a child.
The question is meant to show if you’re capable of measuring something as simple as evil vs good at its basic level. The fact you’d choose USA to be the influence of the world tells me you still have a lot to learn about it. It also shows if all this hatred for China is fake or not. If it’s a dick-measuring contest instead of genuine activism.
You just proved that you don’t really care about the things you preach. You are the lazy one not writing enough about something so important like genocide and the lives of thousands. You probably think people who write paragraphs like me are “schizos” or mentally ill. I keep getting those replies every time I talk about these things, including something as important as the genocide in Gaza. People would literally respond like you, “wow, that’s super lazy,” “the world is more complicated than that,” “you are making shit up just to hate Jews”… You can’t do justice to these things with one or two sentences like you’re doing it.
I didn’t choose either because while China is genocidal America isn’t being its best self right now either.
Again this is something I’ve never said but you’re making up to get mad at me about.
I do believe that part of effective communication is being short and concise.
Effective at wasting time, yeah. Still refusing to prove how China is genocidal.
Thank you. It is people like you that make me support China more than the USA, despite its flaws. That won’t stop me from criticizing it, but, to see so many of you handling these topics like this, no thank you.
Calling China genocidal, and America “not at its best right now” lmao. Insane subliminal whitewashing. Dude. Prove to us that you actually care about the truth and the people and tell us if you agree with this or not: “America’s government is a terrorist. America and Israel are genocidal and have been for decades while successfully gaslighting most of their populations about it.”
I have spoken to Chinese people, and they disagree with you on that, about communication having to be short and concise. They always show the attention and care to give you a complete full answer that addresses as much as they can, because the topic merits it, we are talking about genocide. It deserves more respect than some stupid ass childish replies like “wow thats the laziest argument ive seeen” or cheap gotchas like “show me where did I source CNN” while defending a CNN talking point, lol.
You were never short and concise with anything of value. You only repeated yourself and kept calling China genocidal without really proving it. The UN doesn’t even agree with you the same way it does about Israel or Ukraine. So, who are you doing this for, really? It only appeals to the MAGA and Blue-MAGA crowds, literally.
Are you going to address the part where you are making up things to be mad at me about?
You only reinforced people’s belief that all of this hatred toward China is so fishy. After all the lies Western Media has spread before, we should trust them with this because…? I’m not discarding the possibility of China committing genocide, but I am highly skeptical of you and your sources after the reputation you culminated and keep culminating by responding like this instead of answering the important questions. It’s so easy to make a “Cultural Integration” sound like “Cultural Genocide,” you just have to convince people like you that China will disappear those cultures after integrating them, but the law explicitly says it plans to conserve their texts, teach their languages and so on. Since you don’t respond to any of this, and judging by the maturity of your responses, people will be forced to imagine that you will just dismiss that with something lazy like “they always lie” and nothing else. But guess we will never know, because you care more about yourself, not these genocides.
To be honest, it is thanks to people like you that thousands of my people in Mexico, Gaza and Lebanon are dying. You sound like you are funded by AIPAC. My grand-grandpa came from Lebanon, he had to escape it because of Israel and the US. Almost 100 years later and shit hasn’t changed. And what I come across online is a fucking piece of shit asking “Are you going to address the part where you are making up things to be mad at me about?” and not answering the cries of those thousands of dead people. I am not making shit up, this is who you are, someone who ignores the important questions and instead wastes time with short replies like those. Disgusting demon.
If you’re a human, and not funded by AIPAC, you’d agree with that statement so easily and quickly. But you’re avoiding it just the same way democrats funded by AIPAC do when asked to condemn actual genocides committed by actual terrorist States, like the USA and Israel’s genocide on Gaza and Lebanon. And because you do that, it’s harder for people to trust you when you talk about other genocides. That’s part of my main point. Your reputation is so rotten, to the point that everything you hate must actually mean it’s something good. As you can see, I keep repeating that I am open to the possibility of China committing genocide, but I can’t trust Western sources alone, especially CNN and Fox News, after watching endless hours of them showing their true colors for the past 2 years.
I feel like I could also just bait your true intentions here, your true values, if I asked you if you know and have an opinion on someone like Hasan Piker. Do you know him? Do you have an opinion of him?
Do you really think that if I’m funded by AIPAC that I’m going to say Israel is a genocidal nation just like China?
Why did you omit America again?
It’s the USA and Israel. USA being the worst, because it armed Israel. The USA happily designed, forged and created the bombs, missiles and bullets used to blow the heads of some poor children in Yemen, Gaza, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc off, effectively creating further rancor and ire down the line, so that they can do it again 20 years later under the disguise of “freedom.” Hamas exists thanks to the USA. Hamas is made up by the orphans they left behind after they bombed them decades ago. Why are you omitting all this important context?
Thanks for all this, I needed a good laugh after work.
Whatever helps you cope with the fact that you work and pay taxes to pedophiles.
Genocide is funny to you? You think millions of people dying and the mindsets that have helped that continue happening is? My anger towards people that are strengthening those things? Spreading misinformation or lack of context on purpose?
If so, that’s so trashy. It is clear you have no real evidence or conviction to prove China is committing a genocide. You’re literally just Blue-MAGA. Which, to us, is no different from Red-MAGA anymore. You just want people to keep supporting the USA so they continue with their bloodbaths. I’m glad Mexico is adopting socialist views and has closed so many deals with American businesses to instead open new ones with Asian countries recently, my god. It’s truly worse worse than I thought. America is filled with monsters trying to stop that progressive change from happening.
You do realize you responded to an entirely different person right?
Yeah, and? He said he found this funny, when there is nothing funny about what is being talked about, which is about genocide and making claims that China is doing one, with dubious sources and evidence. Why are you still focusing on shit that doesn’t matter instead of the topic at hand? What the fuck?
Genocide is horrible and the countries doing it are horrible too.
Israel, Russia and China should stop doing it.
Ok. You’re Blue MAGA. There it is. You think America is not doing a genocide. It’s fine, own it. You’re patriotic. You still want to believe your people are good deep inside. If they were, both parties would stop funding Israel. But only socialist democrats are doing that, like Zohran Mandami, Avila Chevalier, Claire Valdez and more.
If you truly care about stopping genocide in the Middle East, start voting for the DSA. They are the only ones who have consistently shown support for Palestine even a day after October 7, even when the majority of the country threw shit at them because people still thought Jews were the victims just because of how fresh we have the Holocaust in our minds. Russia is already decaying, Putin is losing grasp of everything. I don’t care about what you have to say about China anymore, you are not educated enough. I will keep reading about that outside your bubble. Opinions from multiple different countries, except America. Only Mexico and Brazil refused to support Israel’s military just recently. All the other Latin American countries, and obviously the USA, still do.
I wonder what is your solution to that. Vote blue no matter who? Gavin Newsom or maybe Hunter Biden in the future? They must seem like incredibly reasonable men to you. What about Chuck Schummer? You think he should stay or get out? I bet you think he looks really smart when he has his glasses down like that, don’t you?
I’m amused that you say I’m not educated enough but you talk about blue maga.
You respond like a MAGA. Look at your reply: Did it explain how am I not educated enough to talk about blue maga? No. What did your reply say that proves I am not educated enough? Nothing. It’s just an empty short quick attack aimed at the messenger, me, never the message, because you simply cannot dismantle the fact that America is a terrorist country that has been causing multiple genocides throughout its 250 years of existence. It STILL denies the genocide in Gaza; its media and government do. It has lied about crimes immigrants commit. Black people too. Arabs and Muslims. About what they did in the Middle East for decades. They lied about Ohio residents eating cats and dogs. About Africa committing white genocide, you suddenly forgot that one, that one was fake, right? Only the China one worked. It is the one you don’t question too much, because both parties still trust the propaganda message that says “China is worse than America.”
I always call people who do that Jeffrey Epstein Supporters, because that’s the type of people they want: People who will show blind loyalty and support to a country instead of Humanity first. You cannot admit the fact that America is genocidal, it’s a terrorist, and it deserves to fucking change already. Do you really think that’s going to look good to anyone who cares about the truth? When someone like you talks bad about China, it just looks worse for your side. You are childish. You are treating this like a sports game. And I don’t even like China, it has more billionaires than the USA, but at least they can’t lobby the government like American billionaires do. I think their censorship of LGBT media is as pathetic as Russia’s. And so on. But the Uighur thing is pretty recent and I keep seeing contradictions, you are not someone that should be heard in this topic, because you are worse than biased, you’re a cult member, just like MAGA.
Oh you’re talking about blue MAGA and white genocide now?
The same sources that told you white genocide was happening in Africa, are the same ones telling you China is doing a genocide. That’s my point, you can’t even see I’m mocking your contradictions.
I didn’t believe in the Ohio or White Genocide nonsense. The same way I don’t believe anything Trump says about China. How come you do? Why the fuck?
Man, America is cooked. I think you should keep doing what you do, tho. The annoyance and friction you cause is what’s increasing support for socialism and communism. Shit is changing. American Exceptionalism is getting destroyed. I feel so fucking ashamed of being similar to you when I was a teenager. I’d defend America like this too, I thought it was Humanity’s best chance at a country with absolute cultural diversity, but nah, there are better options out there, America is not even in the top 10.
At least I am glad I didn’t see you talking shit of socialist democrats. Or socialism/communism in general. I at least want to believe you are redeemable and agree capitalism is garbage.
I don’t get my facts about China’s genocide from Trump.
But you overlap a lot anyway. Won’t waste more time with MAGA
I don’t overlap much at all.
I want to see Israel get reined in and stop their Palestine genocide, I want to see Russia stop invading Ukraine and pay them reparations for the war crimes they’ve committed and I want to see China release all the Uyghurs from the concentration camps and stop the ongoing genocide.
And I want to see America get replaced in the global spotlight so all that you just said can finally be achieved. But for now, nothing is going to change, because we are surrounded by cowardly morons like you :)
I’m glad that you want to see China stop its genocide too.
Until it is proven to be one, because so far you only reinforced my belief that this is likely fake and forced American propaganda. To see the fact that you cannot even say you want to stop America from funding Israel, from committing genocide alongside Israel, tells me that you aren’t criticizing China because you care about the truth, but to distract people from what America is doing, to feel better about the fact America is a terrorist country that deserves to be stripped of all its power and global influence. Cheap “gotchas” won’t work either. You already showed what a true piece of shit you and more than half of America is.
You don’t do shit to stop Israel, the fuck are you gonna do to China?
Hey who have you been speaking with?
With a monster who funds and whitewashes the genocide in Gaza America is doing through its tiny proxy called Israel. You.
But who told you I was impotent?
You keep showing your impotency to call out America’s war crimes. You live there? Are you a vote blue no matter who moron? I want to let you know, that it is thanks to people like you and MAGA that the USA won’t outlive China anymore. There is a high chance the USA won’t exist as we know it in the next 100 years, and it’ll be thanks to people like you, who were so adamant about whitewashing its crimes.
Have at least anything to say about all the guns you give to the Narcos here in Mexico that have been used to kill over 30,000 of my people every year? Hundreds of thousands of innocent Mexicans dead just to fulfill America’s whims of making a profit. Mexico alone, without counting South America, you have easily killed millions of innocent lives for something as dumb as weed. We give you cheap hand labor in exchange of peace. How fucked up is that? I wish I was born in China. I wish I had the money to move there, but no. I have to deal with people like you every day instead. America is hot garbage, it’s a massive shithole. It deserves to be punished, and it includes Mexico. There is so much blatant corruption and racism here, I don’t care anymore. Whatever it takes for idiots like you to understand that you need to become a human or fuck off
America also includes Canada.
And? Dude, you’re truly mentally challenged. I understand the people who hated you, you are truly an evil piece of shit. Go eat dirt. I just asked you if you have anything to say about the millions you have killed in America, and this is what you reply with? Nah. You are evil as fuck.
What do you have against Canadians?
People like you are going to have their heads opened to the truth, I am glad of that.
I got nothing against Canadians. You seem to have something against us, Latin Americans. You have indiscriminately killed millions of us and you are currently laughing at our faces about it, ignoring this and instead playing a stupid edgy troll joke about including Canada or whatever. Yeah, nah. America deserves what is coming to it, 100%
Actually I haven’t killed a single person.
Where did you get the idea I’ve killed millions of people?
Your blind support for America makes you complicit. Your lack of balls to call out the crimes of America. If you live there, it’s worse, you pay the taxes used to fund that death and destruction, and you seem to be very supportive of it. You aren’t angry about it, or calling it out… Maybe because you like it, no? Or what?
You think people will believe you when you tell them you haven’t killed a single person? Trump would say the exact same thing. “Never killed someone. With my OWN hands, ha, gotcha!”
Are you a teenager or something? How are you this fucking stupid and naive? Are you doing it on purpose? You think I am the enemy? I am a Humanist. I am above you in everything. I will always prioritize human potential. You will always cheer your fascist terrorist genocidal State called the “United States of America,” the most ironic name in Human History. Children in the future will read about you, the way you were the least united. You weren’t even all of America, you stole that name. You have no culture at all, either; you stole bits and pieces from others, like burgers, halloween, thanksgiving… none of them American, but a lot think they are. You are worse than a Chinese knockoff. Just the worst the UK had, they dumped it over here. And then you did Operation Paperclip, adopted a bunch of Nazis after WWII instead of punishing them, lmao. And now they are some of the most influential and powerful men in the country, like Elon Musk.
Hell yeah, brother. Osama Bin Laden destroyed America. He successfully removed the mask. Holy shit. Are you embarrassed? I’m just a Mexican from Tamaulipas, one of the most violent and poorest States here. We suffered so much thanks to American influence. I got to see my own Spanish teacher shot to death next to her son, in a newspaper. Her husband was involved with the Cartel. It’s just eerie, weird, bad, it shouldn’t be happening. To see that you don’t give a fuck, you prefer to be an edgy troll piece of shit, will only reinforce what I believe of people like you. You have no hope to change, why should anyone waste their time with you, you know?
You can’t be a humanist and be okay with china’s genocide of the Uyghurs though.
But you are a pedophile apologist. How do I know you are not lying about that being a genocide or not? I won’t opine until I listen to multiple reputable humanists. They are the only ones who will be truly neutral and fair with the analysis. You are incredibly biased and fucking evil. You are okay with committing genocide to Latin Americans and Muslims. You won’t call USA’s war crimes because you want them to continue, there is no other explanation. This could be a genuine Cultural Integration, or Cultural Genocide, but you don’t have the knowledge or readiness to discuss that.
Uyghurs are mostly Muslim so it seems like you’re okay with them getting genocided.
I’m not a fan of pedophiles and I’ve never apologized about them either.
It’s crazy that you still get replies after you constantly make shit up and tell others what they believe.
No I am not. I just haven’t met reputable sources yet. We are under a CNN post. CNN has behaved like Fox News. That shit only hurts the truth. This information should come from more elegant people, not Americans. I won’t trust some fucking sources that have proven to despise Muslims. The intentions and motives feel shady, fishy, like there is something greater going on; I won’t blindly support whatever the fuck you say I should, just because you keep playing a pathetic game of guilt-tripping and trolling.
And yes you are. You defend America and the American government. I see you moderate a parody of the Conservative sub, but that’s just worse. You couldn’t admit that America is doing genocide alongside Israel. You’re literally a Blue MAGA. You are just a Conservative Light™ and those are pedophile apologists too.
But you’re denying a genocide but acting like you are against genocides.
I’m a guy who’s against all genocide and I’m very consistent with my beliefs.
Says the guy who just denied America is committing a genocide alongside Israel. A real, proven and well-documented one. You can’t even prove your claim about China committing a genocide. Where’s the proof? Anyways, you did something so now I cannot reply to your most recent replies, I have to do it on an old one. You probably got so mad that you finally met someone superior. Someone more stubborn and perfect morally than you. You disgusting evil piece of shit, people like you will not influence this world anymore.
Go live your sad life of replying to absolutely everything in this website like an obsessed redditor mod. You’re doing it for the wrong causes, wasting so much time in a message that is going to die very soon, lol. What a loser.
I don’t think the code for Lemmy or piefed includes that capability.
Yep, I 100% definitely said all those things. You are very reasonable and not extrapolating out of your ass at all. 👍
You said all that by showing support for the other dude, yes. You sound just like him too now. Arguing semantics and shit that doesn’t matter in a conversation about genocide and claiming a country is doing genocide. What was so funny about it by the way?
Do you think China is somehow outside the networks confirmed by the Epstein files? It’s a global pyramid
Prove it
Lol the final words of a fool who has lost an argument so completely they can’t even comprehend it. I didn’t realize dear leader’s boot leather contained brain melting chemicals. You might want to stop licking that.
So, can you prove that some important Chinese political figures are involved in the Jeffrey Epstein Files or not?
Or why the fuck are you even saying this? I won’t take important claims like those lightly. I care about the truth, and you’re not giving it to me. So, fuck off, you stupid random weirdo. What a dumbass way to reply, what the fuck? Did you tap on the wrong comment or something? Like, the context, the jump you made, it’s so dumb. I just asked you to prove it, and you say this shit.
You are desperate to have someone to smear too? You don’t want America to be the only villain? It is. America is the biggest terrorist of the world. Bigger than Russia even, and I hate both a lot. And I don’t even fully trust China, I have already shared some of my criticisms
You’re way too stupid to be typing this much lol. Keep digging boot licker
If you cannot prove that there are Chinese political figures in the files, if you simply shot that blindly, you are a fucking Jeffrey Epstein Class Supporter. They love idiots who show blind loyalty like you. I am not showing that, if you can give me the names, I will just distrust China more than before, who cares? The USA is still the biggest priority, they are the ones killing millions of my people in Mexico, Latin America and the Middle East too. You just want to distract people with China so that you can continue killing us in peace. Fuck you, demon.
It’s going to be incredibly easy for people to prove that you are benefiting the Jeffrey Epstein Class if you keep replying like an angry brute. Is that your goal?
I don’t need to prove anything to a genocide denier
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Nice tribal thinking, MAGA behavior. Me receiving a ton of downvotes won’t change the fact that your purpose in life is to serve the Jeffrey Epstein Class and kill millions of Latin Americans and Muslims with your taxes. China is a better alternative and influence to us than America. Period.
You let some downvotes be your “critical thinking seal of approval,” man. Get real. You are so fucking easy to manipulate and take advantage of.
Dumbass doesn’t even realize this is his 40 comment thread of his one sided multi-paragraph ranting slop. Seeeethe buddy
I don’t care, pedophile apologist. You and the redditor mod finally sealed it up for me: American Exceptionalism benefits the Jeffrey Epstein Class. This whole movement against China is forced and fake, and if it is not, it is still nowhere close to an emergency as the USA’s threat to the world currently is.
There is no evidence of genocide of the Uyghurs. Here is an article detailing and debunking the false allegations. www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang?rq=Xinj…
Unfortunately, you have been fed anti-communist propaganda.
Instead of just reactively downvoting me, actually read the article. It’s exceptionally well sourced, and fits all the necessary criteria for good journalism.
Thinking that the CCP is anything but capitalist and imperialist is propaganda.
That article is a joke.
You didn’t even click the link, did you?
I did.
Then what about it is a joke?
THE QIAO COLLECTIVE AND LEFT DIASPORIC CHINESE NATIONALISM
Can’t wait for the tankies to try and spin this into something positive.
Tell me again how china is good or better than America? I’ve said this before but American capitalism hasn’t been the answer for decades. And Chinese communism won’t save us either. As a Native American I know all to well about the great American history of treating natives here. And how china has been treating Tibet and Uyghurs is distinguished as well as Taiwan too.
Hey, be generous and give .ml some time to write their script at how they treat their minorities better before they respond to you!
Why does everything need to be compared to the US and why can’t both be bad?
Source: main US propaganda shitposting network…
www.spp.gov.cn/spp/fl/…/t20260313_723912.shtml is apparently a source that backs this up. IDK I can’t read it.
Yeah, pretty normal law:
Here’s an English summary of this document — the Law of the People’s Republic of China on Promoting Ethnic Unity and Progress, adopted March 12, 2026 by the National People’s Congress, effective July 1, 2026.
Purpose & framing The law aims to strengthen a shared sense of Chinese national/ethnic community identity, promote unity among China’s ethnic groups, and support the “great rejuvenation” of the Chinese nation. It affirms equality of all citizens and ethnic groups before the law and bans discrimination or oppression of any ethnic group, while emphasizing Communist Party leadership over ethnic affairs work.
Structure (7 chapters, 65 articles):
General Provisions – Legal basis, guiding ideology (Marxism-Leninism through Xi Jinping Thought), core principle of “forging a strong sense of Chinese national community,” and rejection of foreign interference in China’s ethnic affairs.
Building a Shared Spiritual Home – Promotes patriotic/socialist education, shared cultural symbols, protection of heritage sites, and nationwide promotion of Standard Mandarin Chinese as the primary language in schools and government (while still protecting minority languages). Includes provisions on education curricula, media/propaganda work, family education, and outreach to Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, and overseas Chinese communities.
Promoting Interaction and Integration – Encourages mixed-ethnic communities, cross-regional migration/employment/education exchanges, youth exchange programs, tourism, and regulation of online content — banning material that incites ethnic hatred or discrimination.
Advancing Shared Prosperity – Focuses on economic development in ethnic minority regions: infrastructure, industry, poverty alleviation, border-area development, public services, and ecological protection.
Safeguards and Oversight – Assigns responsibilities to government bodies, party organizations, businesses, religious groups, military, and grassroots organizations. Establishes a “Ethnic Unity Progress Publicity Week” (last week of September) and mechanisms for public complaints and prosecutorial public-interest lawsuits.
Legal Liability – Penalties for officials or organizations that fail to prevent ethnic-unity violations, discrimination (e.g., employment discrimination based on ethnicity), or online violations. Serious violations (terrorism, separatism, religious extremism) are treated as criminal offenses, including for actions by foreign entities targeting China.
Supplementary Provisions – Allows provincial/local governments to enact supporting local regulations; law takes effect July 1, 2026
CNN propaganda bs confirmed… From a country with 80% black jail population, legal slavery of them, and currently hunting brown people and disappearing their kids at that…