from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 11:15
https://lemmy.world/post/48533355
Much of France was set to experience temperatures of around 40C on Tuesday, after records were shattered on Monday
Forty people have drowned in France over the past days as they sought to cool down to escape record heat, the prime minister said on Tuesday, as a heatwave swept across much of Europe.
Speaking ahead of an emergency meeting on the heatwave, French Prime Minister Sebastien Lecornu said: “A sad scourge when it comes to drownings, as the latest figures just reported to us show 40 deaths since June 18, most of them young people.”
Across France, people have been jumping into canals and rivers to cool off. French sports minister Marina Ferrari said she understood the urge to escape the heat but warned against swimming in unauthorized or dangerous areas.
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Yeah maybe don’t jump straight into unknown water. Walk in slowly from the edge if it’s possible, if not perhaps find another entry point to start from. For rivers swim up stream to explore it so if the current gets stronger you are just pushed back to your starting point.
Please translate to french
Je te hais et j’espère que tu mourras dans d’atroces souffrances.
Je suis m'apelle.
Bonjour m’appelle je suis Dad.
Cwasson
Je suis Napoleon, du France!
À l’eau - c’est l’heure.
Mettez l’eau en vous. Ne vous mettez pas dans l’eau.
It’s hard to believe that it’s now cooler in Morocco than in France.
Holy fuck but yes. My home city is cooler than France and I'm from a fucking desert. This is insane.
40C is 104F, which on its own doesn’t feel that hot to me. It must be humid too I’m guessing.
43C is 109F, which is what the headline says.
Ah was reading the body of the post, which says “around 40C.” 109 sucks but it’s still bearable if it’s not humid. Humidity with that temp is what makes it a killer.
What you’re saying is true, but only under specific circumstances. If you’re conditioned for it and you take precautions, if this is your daily, it’s doable. 109 with very low humidity, a nice breeze, in the shade, with dessert clothing, and a healthy supply of clean water, is ez if you are used to it and know what to do.
If you aren’t used to it, or don’t know what to do, or it’s 40% humidity, or there is no shade and you’re letting the sun hit your skin, etc, will easily kill you. This is France my man. Not wherever you’re from. These temps, just hitting the normal vegetation will ensure the humidity is unbearable. Much less everything else.
Oh… 40% is where it starts getting dangerous already? I assumed that’s low humidity.
humidity in france is normally between 65% and 95%
Tbh with you I think it’s lower than that when the temps are over 100, much less over 110. However, I don’t know the exact number. I think it depends on other factors. In a situation where we’re talking about regular folks having to do several specific things to survive, humidity easily breaks our little scenario.
I can tell you that I’m from the swamp. I can do up to around 103 with humidity over 70% but the cone for survival begins to narrow dramatically above 95. In the desert with humidity at 14%, I was completely fine at 110 even in the sun for periods of time. Like, I thought it was in the high 80s.
But, I can sweat gallons as long as I have water. That’s what my body is conditioned to do. In the actual, ancient desert, without constant access to water, I’m dead. I assume most people can’t just sweat two gallons a day, drink two gallons and eat some spicy food, and be ok tomorrow again. I also assume actual desert natives handle 110 different than me too, in a more desert sustainable way.
If we’re talking about bare survival of a healthy or generationally conditioned person, able to do the right things, with access to everything they need, I think you’re right 40% doesn’t break things, but I assume none of those things apply in France.
Lol, 40°C is insanely hot for humans. Everything over 30 is super hot, over 35 is dangerous.
Add humidity to that and expect people to die from the heat alone.
Above 100F is where it’s considered critical, where the body can no longer dissipate heat through the environment.
Won’t this be related to the humidity/wet bulb temp?
It’s relative, Europe live in buildings meant to keep the heat in made of brick or concrete where as where you live probably has bungalows made of timber suited to the climate in your area
The AC situation in Europe is a little rough. I stayed in Paris in a niceish hotel and the AC could not keep up with the heat when I was there. It was maybe a 10 degree difference inside vs out, and the humidity did not drop much. This was 10 years ago so maybe more places have better ac now, but I don’t think every place had AC then.
Depends on the country and the region within. The further you move south, the more ACs you’ll see. Up until recently, there wasn’t a reason for countries north of italy to have AC everywhere.
Climate change is totally not a problem guys its totally fine.
Anyone read The Ministry For The Future? There’s a horrifying wet-bulb event that occurs in the book. It happens in India. People just dying by the hundreds, stewing in any water they can find to cool off. It’s looking very likely to occur this century. In the book, this causes some changes, some of which are implemented very aggressively. Sad to think it may be the only way people get on board with fixing this stuff.
The part mentioning the water was no cooler than the warm air but people still jumped in believing they were getting some relief was really heavy. The only way to convince those in power of the threat global warming poses is if it happens in a place like the Hamptons or Beverly Hills.
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