Noooooh, that has been going on for much, much longer than that. The one that happened before Ukraine was just the nth time that there was a coup and mass murders and what not.
I remember Rambo 4 being there and showing actually quite well the horrors that were happening there in the years before that movie, andni remember thinking good on Stallone to shine a light on that in his own way
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Jul 2024 14:10
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Yes, there have been problems for a long time there, but then Myanmar was apparently on a path to democracy, but then the coup happened, so now there are problems again. It’s the current civil war I’m referring to.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world
on 13 Jun 2024 02:01
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Sure is compassionate of you to be concerned for the lives of men fighting to oppress their own people under a brutal dictatorship.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
on 11 Jun 2024 11:38
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Yes, it is compassionate to oppose a war. Even if you personally don’t feel one side is human, you must understand that both sides are going to suffer massive casualties right?
And even if you don’t consider either side human, you know we spend billions on keeping South Korea militarized right? We’re still paying for that war in rotting infrastructure and schools even if it’s not our blood being spilled.
Then again, if I had a nickle for every time I heard someone extol how much they care for the Ukrainian people also say that the war is a wonderful way to kill Russians without spilling a drop of American blood, I’d be able to afford a house. I suspect that you don’t care about either side’s people or your own beyond how their lives can be spent to defend western hegemony.
It is not compassionate to support a brutal dictatorship.
Even if you personally don’t feel one side is human
Nice strawman you started building, it’s a shame you stopped half way.
And even if you don’t consider either side human
Another half attempt at finishing your strawman?
you know we spend billions
You’re making a lot of assumptions here.
keeping South Korea militarized right?
If only they didn’t have a brutal dictatorship next door.
We’re still paying
Wrong.
I suspect that you don’t care about either side’s people
It only took you three paragraphs to complete your strawman! Congrats you did it.
defend western hegemony.
Cry about it tankie scum.
Zahille7@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 2024 14:09
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Opposing war doesn’t equate to supporting a dictator.
You literally have no argument.
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
on 11 Jun 2024 17:36
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Allowing aggression to go unchecked is the opposite of opposing war - it literally encourages more.
Zahille7@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 2024 21:15
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Opposing war doesn’t necessarily equate to pacifism, either.
skulblaka@startrek.website
on 11 Jun 2024 20:20
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Yes it does, when the war you’re opposing is one intended to bring consequences to a dictator. Unopposed dictators continue to dictate and empower other dictators. You don’t stop a bully by turning the other cheek. That just gets you punched in both sides of the face. You stop a bully by bringing them consequences to their actions. When there are no consequences, the actions continue.
If you’d like to read more about this, please check into the entirety of human history.
Zahille7@lemmy.world
on 12 Jun 2024 05:22
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Literally nowhere in any of my responses have I alluded to me being an absolute pacifist. In fact, one of my replies implies that I’m not, I’m just against war (because, you know, it’s fucking atrocious for all involved), because you can absolutely oppose the act of war while still being down for some violence yourself.
Cypher@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 2024 21:15
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My argument is they should have been shot.
The weak little dictator isn’t going to get into a shooting match with the South over a couple of dead soldiers.
If you think they will then you know nothing of the history.
killing two soldiers doesn’t solve anything. They should invade north korea and fill it with a thousand McDonalds. Its the only way to restore freedom™
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
on 12 Jun 2024 23:38
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The user they’re replying to is a tankie. Dictator support is baked into the ideology.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
on 11 Jun 2024 13:38
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“The situation at that time was that the DMZ was now overgrown with trees and the MDL mark was not clearly visible,” Lee said.
“There was no road, and the (North Korean soldiers) were moving through the bushes, and we were observing (them) even before they got close to the MDL,” Lee said.
“We believe that they did not intend to invade, considering that they immediately moved northward after the warning broadcasts and warning shots.”
Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 2024 16:39
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If north Korea invades south Korea its not like they’re gonna kill any kids.
Zagorath@aussie.zone
on 11 Jun 2024 22:26
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I believe it’s a reference to Korea’s plummeting fertility rate, which currently sits at the lowest birth rate in the world, at less than 1 child per woman.
Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
on 11 Jun 2024 23:18
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Yea the fact that you had to spell that out is troubling in this community
damn, where the marksmanship at?? Authoritarians everywhere getting brave and bold, almost time to remind them what happens when the rest of us pick up arms against the nazi/adjacent fucks
Snowflake@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Jun 2024 12:20
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Last time we bombed them into the stone age. Maybe we send them back. It’s impressive they still have the balls I’ll give them that.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
on 14 Jun 2024 06:55
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Huh, I wonder if murdering 20% of their population could inform their current hostility towards the US and its puppet states.
Nah, must just be that they’re bad evil authoritarians who don’t like freedom democracy.
Snowflake@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jun 2024 22:03
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What if they really are just evil authoritarians who don’t like freedom and democracy? There is a reason they were bombed into the stone age in the first place. That reason is because they were evil communists who don’t like democracy. They messed with our “puppet state” and they found out quickly why it was a bad idea. The puppet state now prospers because democracy is the best.
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Oh hell no, we don’t need THREE major active conflicts!
Three??? Pssssshhhhh, those are rookie numbers son! Yo Mexico! Canada! Lets throw hands! Fuck it!
Basically the man-child that runs that place sees others getting attention and got jealous.
That would be 4, no?
Sudan is pretty globally involved right now. Does Myanmar have foreign backing too?
Not that I know of. I understand you wouldn’t consider it a major conflict, in this regard.
Myanmar? Did I miss some news?
The country has been in civil war since the army forcefully took power.
Well yeah but that is iirc over a decade ago already
A few years. About 1 more than the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, if I remember correctly
Noooooh, that has been going on for much, much longer than that. The one that happened before Ukraine was just the nth time that there was a coup and mass murders and what not.
I remember Rambo 4 being there and showing actually quite well the horrors that were happening there in the years before that movie, andni remember thinking good on Stallone to shine a light on that in his own way
Yes, there have been problems for a long time there, but then Myanmar was apparently on a path to democracy, but then the coup happened, so now there are problems again. It’s the current civil war I’m referring to.
google.com/…/sudans-al-fashir-main-hospital-shut-…
Like bickering children
They should have been shot. North Korean soldiers have previously used such incursions to plant land mines on patrol routes.
straitstimes.com/…/north-korea-denies-that-it-was…
Sure is brave of you to call for escalations of war an ocean away.
Sure is compassionate of you to be concerned for the lives of men fighting to oppress their own people under a brutal dictatorship.
Yes, it is compassionate to oppose a war. Even if you personally don’t feel one side is human, you must understand that both sides are going to suffer massive casualties right?
And even if you don’t consider either side human, you know we spend billions on keeping South Korea militarized right? We’re still paying for that war in rotting infrastructure and schools even if it’s not our blood being spilled.
Then again, if I had a nickle for every time I heard someone extol how much they care for the Ukrainian people also say that the war is a wonderful way to kill Russians without spilling a drop of American blood, I’d be able to afford a house. I suspect that you don’t care about either side’s people or your own beyond how their lives can be spent to defend western hegemony.
It is not compassionate to support a brutal dictatorship.
Nice strawman you started building, it’s a shame you stopped half way.
Another half attempt at finishing your strawman?
You’re making a lot of assumptions here.
If only they didn’t have a brutal dictatorship next door.
Wrong.
It only took you three paragraphs to complete your strawman! Congrats you did it.
Cry about it tankie scum.
Opposing war doesn’t equate to supporting a dictator.
You literally have no argument.
Allowing aggression to go unchecked is the opposite of opposing war - it literally encourages more.
Opposing war doesn’t necessarily equate to pacifism, either.
Yes it does, when the war you’re opposing is one intended to bring consequences to a dictator. Unopposed dictators continue to dictate and empower other dictators. You don’t stop a bully by turning the other cheek. That just gets you punched in both sides of the face. You stop a bully by bringing them consequences to their actions. When there are no consequences, the actions continue.
If you’d like to read more about this, please check into the entirety of human history.
Literally nowhere in any of my responses have I alluded to me being an absolute pacifist. In fact, one of my replies implies that I’m not, I’m just against war (because, you know, it’s fucking atrocious for all involved), because you can absolutely oppose the act of war while still being down for some violence yourself.
My argument is they should have been shot.
The weak little dictator isn’t going to get into a shooting match with the South over a couple of dead soldiers.
If you think they will then you know nothing of the history.
killing two soldiers doesn’t solve anything. They should invade north korea and fill it with a thousand McDonalds. Its the only way to restore freedom™
The user they’re replying to is a tankie. Dictator support is baked into the ideology.
If north Korea invades south Korea its not like they’re gonna kill any kids.
??
I believe it’s a reference to Korea’s plummeting fertility rate, which currently sits at the lowest birth rate in the world, at less than 1 child per woman.
Yea the fact that you had to spell that out is troubling in this community
damn, where the marksmanship at?? Authoritarians everywhere getting brave and bold, almost time to remind them what happens when the rest of us pick up arms against the nazi/adjacent fucks
Last time we bombed them into the stone age. Maybe we send them back. It’s impressive they still have the balls I’ll give them that.
Huh, I wonder if murdering 20% of their population could inform their current hostility towards the US and its puppet states.
Nah, must just be that they’re bad evil authoritarians who don’t like freedom democracy.
What if they really are just evil authoritarians who don’t like freedom and democracy? There is a reason they were bombed into the stone age in the first place. That reason is because they were evil communists who don’t like democracy. They messed with our “puppet state” and they found out quickly why it was a bad idea. The puppet state now prospers because democracy is the best.