What’s in the Iran-US deal? 14-point memorandum reportedly covers Hormuz, sanctions, $300 billion rebuild (indianexpress.com)
from stumu415@lemmy.zip to world@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 08:16
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stumu415@lemmy.zip on 15 Jun 08:16 next collapse

So much winning… for Iran.

Codpiece@feddit.uk on 15 Jun 08:35 next collapse

Does this include Israel too?

FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 09:20 next collapse

Of course not

I believe that Israel will continue to steal more of Palestine and Lebanon, and most of the west will look uncomfortably at their toes for fear of being called antisemites

Babalugats@feddit.uk on 15 Jun 09:51 next collapse

No. But hopefully it means that Iran will be able to fully unload on Israel (if Israel keep at it) without worrying about any repercussions from the US.

EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 09:58 collapse

My best guess is that the US plans to abandon Israel for the rest of the Trump administration. Should Israel and Iran go to war, the US will not do anything besides send weapons (as they have done previously). They will not carry out anymore military strikes on Iran.

Should Iran respond to attacks on Lebanon by re-closing the straight of Hormuz, the US would be forced to begin withholding material support from Israel and then renegotiate a second peace agreement.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 15 Jun 10:31 collapse

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-us-military/

EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 10:35 collapse

nbcnews.com/…/pentagon-raised-threat-israeli-spyi…

Maeve@kbin.earth on 15 Jun 12:45 collapse

So... Discarding with one hand and clutching with the other. Please.

EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 17:14 collapse

Literal factions wrestling over policy decisions regarding Israel.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 15 Jun 17:26 collapse

Kabuki theatre.

subOrange@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 09:09 next collapse

How is this a good deal? Like what? We pay them money, get nothing and in 30 years they will be at it again with the nuclear weapons?

SirActionSack@aussie.zone on 15 Jun 09:14 next collapse

Can’t imagine why they would want some kind of deterrent weapons.

EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 10:07 next collapse

It’s a good deal because the US and Israel are terrorist states that engage in genocide, but it’s also good for the US because it floods Iran with dollars (which bolsters our currency).

Ideally a deal would be struck in which we lean on Israel to remove all nuclear weapons from the Middle East, and in exchange Iran dismantles their nuclear energy program.

The Israeli’s stole our nuclear technology and should be forced to give us back our nukes (our tech = our nukes), but we’ve yet to see a president willing to stand up to Israel on this matter. If we could remove all nuclear weapons from the region, the global economy would be safer and Israel would not be able to threaten its neighbors into wanting their own nuclear weapons.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 15 Jun 10:29 next collapse

The good deal was no mainland USA destruction. Everything else is gravy.

Sabrinamycarpet@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jun 11:29 next collapse

It seems like a pretty fair deal for peace. US ceases aggression and helps rebuild. Iran reopens the strait.

Everything else is window dressing. Promises can always be broken by either side, but this would conclusively end things for now.

Is it great solely for US self interest? Maybe not but no one cares.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 12:47 collapse

I don’t remember Iran broking deals before. I agree with the rest.

humanspiral@lemmy.ca on 15 Jun 12:15 next collapse

It’s a good deal for world for reopening SoH. No other alternative for opening it. US/GCC would have incurred too much permanent damage. While Trump is only president stupid/compromised enough to have fallen for Netanyahu bait to start, he’s also only one with reality distortion power to call a stop, victory.

World/Americans being liberated from USrael empire is closer today. There is crazy congressional bills to add $700B (70%) in military spending this year with $500B permanent, and to put Mossad in command of US intelligence. This gets harder, if military goals are limited to Cuba/Canada, or recession hits, and US power/“pretenses of idealism in abusing power” loses credibility. There’s a far better world with Iran an influence peer.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 12:44 collapse

Your shitty country started a war of agression so you have to pay for it. It is a decent deal. Iran deserve a bigger compensations. The sanctions damage is estimated to be a trillion of dollars.

Why are you keep believing the idea that Iran will seek nukes which was the exact bullshit excuse that started the war

impudentmortal@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 09:29 next collapse

And this is supposed to be better than Obama’s Iran deal, right?

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 12:40 collapse

Yes for Iran the victim of this war

NotSteve_@lemmy.ca on 15 Jun 12:16 next collapse

The US and its allies are delivering reconstruction plans for Iran worth at least $300bn

So… Israel? I’m not sure the US actually has any other allies anymore

yesman@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 14:02 next collapse

The Obama deal was supposed to have “given” Iran ~$2B, but that was actually a settlement of claims made by Iran pursuant to pre-revolutionary contracts, disputes, and treaties.

So I’m suspicious of this $300B figure. How much of that is sanctions relief and/or unfreezing Iranian assets?

It’s probably misleading to characterize that figure as though we’re writing them a check for war reparations. But there aren’t enough details to be sure.

Anyway, I don’t think it’s wise to adopt the language and tactics of people who think diplomacy is a waste of time and would prefer a military solution.

UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 15:11 next collapse

This seems a lot like a certain deal that was deemed a terrible mistake by a certain someone before

dan1101@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 16:32 next collapse

This is the dumbest war ever, from the president of peace. Peace of shit is more like it.

redsand@infosec.pub on 15 Jun 16:55 next collapse

The deal is dead because Lebanon. How do people keep falling for this every week?

Prior_Industry@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 17:59 collapse

Does Trump get to decide how the 300b gets spent. Just another grift?