CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
on 24 Jul 2025 10:49
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How does number go up when payroll is big?
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 24 Jul 2025 12:52
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Tax cuts and bail outs.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
on 24 Jul 2025 14:31
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Actually that’s the “problem” isnt it. There’s a tax loophole for tech industry payroll that was recently closed up if I recall correctly.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub
on 24 Jul 2025 15:43
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Tech workers can’t be written down as R&D anymore, and get a big tax cut on the wages. Immediately layoffs started. That’s what I recall.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
on 24 Jul 2025 16:38
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That’s the one
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org
on 24 Jul 2025 19:17
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And that was signed by Trump.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works
on 24 Jul 2025 10:51
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Are these hordes of unemployed cheap tech people in the room with us?
Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world
on 24 Jul 2025 10:57
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Hordes of unemployed tech? Yes. Cheap? No. Good thing tech can afford to pay Americans.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com
on 24 Jul 2025 10:59
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Maybe let them remote work. Ppl will take pay cut for that.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world
on 24 Jul 2025 12:32
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We won’t and please do not speak for us. We will however keep the “remote” bit thanks very much
— Ppl
Spacehooks@reddthat.com
on 24 Jul 2025 13:55
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Yeah I agree rather not take any cut because productivity did not change. In fact having ultra wides at home vs 17" at work is godsend. Don’t even get me started in the endless noise with open floor plan.
bradboimler@lemmy.world
on 25 Jul 2025 02:43
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I would take a paycut to work remotely
Witchfire@lemmy.world
on 24 Jul 2025 14:06
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There are hordes of unemployed techies for sure. American companies have been outsourcing everything and laying off everyone left and right. Everyone feels like it’s only a matter of time before they’re sent off.
Magister@lemmy.world
on 24 Jul 2025 12:18
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In addition, Trump expressed dislike for the term “artificial intelligence” itself, saying he preferred a name that better shows the intelligence and power of the technology. “It’s not artificial, it’s genius,” he said.
So, like he wanted to rename Gulf of Mexico, now he will sign a decree forcing everyone to use GI (Genius Intelligence) instead of AI (or A1 if you ask his entourage)
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works
on 24 Jul 2025 12:23
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A1 Sauce will rule the world.
Renohren@lemmy.today
on 24 Jul 2025 12:24
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He’s got a great GI tract! The best ever!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 24 Jul 2025 12:39
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Just unimaginably fucking stupid
spongebue@lemmy.world
on 25 Jul 2025 04:24
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SGI (if you really can’t figure it out, stable genius intelligence)
ptolemai@lemmy.world
on 24 Jul 2025 13:39
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Said with a straight face, to Google and Microsoft CEOs who are both from India
atticus88th@lemmy.world
on 24 Jul 2025 14:09
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I think I recently saw Microsoft put a request for 3x h4b visas more than the number of engineers they fired in the most recent firing wave.
Pretty sure it was rubber stamped.
Guidy@lemmy.world
on 25 Jul 2025 10:16
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They fire h1b folks too. I remember in 2014 when they fired several thousand people one guy from I dis was a new dad and suddenly he had no job and a deadline to find a new job that would “sponsor” him or else he and his family had to return to India. It was like 90 days or something. I still think about him sometimes and hope he’s ok.
bomibantai@lemmynsfw.com
on 25 Jul 2025 11:35
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A particularly fucked up part is that the 90 days wasnt official but just in allowed as a grace period if someone loses their job, and USCIS was told to exercise discretion. That’s gone completely out the window and those fellas can now be targeted for following promises made earlier.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip
on 30 Jul 2025 10:43
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This is another instance where you need to focus on what Trump does, not what he says.
Vizzerdrix@lemmy.world
on 24 Jul 2025 13:41
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This will just further the business model of “We offer AI, but actually it’s just Indians” with big tech companies gladly looking past the AI not being really AI
mhague@lemmy.world
on 24 Jul 2025 15:55
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Feels like they took a look at the lump of labor fallacy and said, “How could we structure the country so that jobs really are finite?”
redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 24 Jul 2025 19:58
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This is just Trump bullshitting. He’s not rolling back H1B or anything.
Guidy@lemmy.world
on 25 Jul 2025 10:13
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lol they won’t. Also, enough folks from India are here in the NW that there are minority support groups that specifically exclude them because otherwise they get very little representation. I believe the phrase is “non-Asian minority”, or similar.
thunder@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 25 Jul 2025 14:06
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Most big tech and other Fortune 500 companies open offices or outsource their network ops to Asia already, so there is no need for visas. Good luck getting those jobs back. Source: I work in telecom.
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How does number go up when payroll is big?
Tax cuts and bail outs.
Actually that’s the “problem” isnt it. There’s a tax loophole for tech industry payroll that was recently closed up if I recall correctly.
Tech workers can’t be written down as R&D anymore, and get a big tax cut on the wages. Immediately layoffs started. That’s what I recall.
That’s the one
And that was signed by Trump.
Are these hordes of unemployed cheap tech people in the room with us?
Hordes of unemployed tech? Yes. Cheap? No. Good thing tech can afford to pay Americans.
Maybe let them remote work. Ppl will take pay cut for that.
We won’t and please do not speak for us. We will however keep the “remote” bit thanks very much
— Ppl
Yeah I agree rather not take any cut because productivity did not change. In fact having ultra wides at home vs 17" at work is godsend. Don’t even get me started in the endless noise with open floor plan.
I would take a paycut to work remotely
There are hordes of unemployed techies for sure. American companies have been outsourcing everything and laying off everyone left and right. Everyone feels like it’s only a matter of time before they’re sent off.
So, like he wanted to rename Gulf of Mexico, now he will sign a decree forcing everyone to use GI (Genius Intelligence) instead of AI (or A1 if you ask his entourage)
A1 Sauce will rule the world.
He’s got a great GI tract! The best ever!
Just unimaginably fucking stupid
SGI (if you really can’t figure it out, stable genius intelligence)
Said with a straight face, to Google and Microsoft CEOs who are both from India
I think I recently saw Microsoft put a request for 3x h4b visas more than the number of engineers they fired in the most recent firing wave.
Pretty sure it was rubber stamped.
They fire h1b folks too. I remember in 2014 when they fired several thousand people one guy from I dis was a new dad and suddenly he had no job and a deadline to find a new job that would “sponsor” him or else he and his family had to return to India. It was like 90 days or something. I still think about him sometimes and hope he’s ok.
A particularly fucked up part is that the 90 days wasnt official but just in allowed as a grace period if someone loses their job, and USCIS was told to exercise discretion. That’s gone completely out the window and those fellas can now be targeted for following promises made earlier.
This is another instance where you need to focus on what Trump does, not what he says.
This will just further the business model of “We offer AI, but actually it’s just Indians” with big tech companies gladly looking past the AI not being really AI
Feels like they took a look at the lump of labor fallacy and said, “How could we structure the country so that jobs really are finite?”
This is just Trump bullshitting. He’s not rolling back H1B or anything.
lol they won’t. Also, enough folks from India are here in the NW that there are minority support groups that specifically exclude them because otherwise they get very little representation. I believe the phrase is “non-Asian minority”, or similar.
Most big tech and other Fortune 500 companies open offices or outsource their network ops to Asia already, so there is no need for visas. Good luck getting those jobs back. Source: I work in telecom.