MrFappy@lemmy.world
on 18 Sep 2023 05:09
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I knew they had a population issue, but holy shit!
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
on 18 Sep 2023 05:51
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I remember I was out with my girlfriend last year and we saw a huge group of school kids.
We were a little bit shocked and spent a while watching them, simply because we hadn’t seen that many kids in years.
(Korea, not Japan, but similar problem)
GreenMario@lemm.ee
on 18 Sep 2023 05:27
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Yeah well maybe give people some incentive to want a family like maybe some mother fucking downtime from work and maybe some fucking guarantees that the world isnt going to turn into Venus in one goddamn generation.
The Japanese are just being smart.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
on 18 Sep 2023 05:46
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This is really it. My wife and I are in our mid 30s and are finally at a financial place to have kids. But we work so much, we would not have time to really raise them. If we did have time, then we wouldn’t have the money.
I’m not going to have a kid that we can’t raise properly.
As someone who didn’t see their parents throughout the school year: Kinda sucked.
Cossty@lemmy.world
on 18 Sep 2023 09:30
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I’m in EU and I don’t want to have kids here. Couldn’t imagine having kids in Japan.
scarabic@lemmy.world
on 19 Sep 2023 04:45
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It’s not just the Japanese either. All developed economies see their birth rates slow. The simplest way I ever heard it explained is that when your society is agrarian, more children means more labor for the farm, and therefore more wealth. Once your economy moves on to manufacturing or services, and children stop being labor, they begin to cost money. And people slow down. These advanced societies also tend to be larger and more populous and therefore more competitive, which deepens the cycle. Add in the longer lifespans in affluent modern societies and you have this demographic crisis. Especially in Japan where they have standout longevity for genetic and dietary reasons.
robocall@lemmy.world
on 18 Sep 2023 05:28
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There are many people that would immigrate and be willing to adapt to the Japanese culture if given the opportunity.
OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
on 18 Sep 2023 05:48
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As a foreigner living in SE Asia, it’s inevitable that foreigners bring their culture with them. If culture is a pain point for immigration, it’s a very real fear.
Dagnet@lemmy.world
on 18 Sep 2023 05:35
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Well, they keep sending kids to do dangerous jobs like piloting mechas and becoming magical girls, now there is only old people left
alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Sep 2023 05:36
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I thought the old people were busy running samurai schools.
Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Sep 2023 06:38
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I just finally started watching Gundam and damn do they love putting those kids in mechas. Zeta seems to follow the trend and I guess the other series do too lol.
fireweed@lemmy.world
on 18 Sep 2023 15:32
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Evangelion at least tried to provide a plot reason for why the pilots all had to be young teenagers. Skimped a bit on explaining why all the support staff were in their twenties except for the two older dudes at the top tho…
TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip
on 18 Sep 2023 20:38
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Cuz Gendo wants to fuck them all, probably.
fireweed@lemmy.world
on 18 Sep 2023 21:30
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Not the Akagi women, apparently!
pavnilschanda@lemmy.world
on 18 Sep 2023 05:54
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Given how Japan seems to embrace AI and robots more than any other nation, it makes me wonder if Japan may inevitably have a significant portion of the population comprised of robots.
Japan is also a nation that spends a lot of money for Civil Servants to do every little thing, including giving people directions at stations instead of just leaving it to signs.
We're not that extreme yet, but we have almodt the same. development.
ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com
on 18 Sep 2023 07:16
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Yeah, and part of the gap can probably be explained by life expectancy differences. Germany faces a tough time by 2040 when the big block of 50-59 who most likely pay an outsized part of the taxes as well will have virtually all retired.
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I knew they had a population issue, but holy shit!
I remember I was out with my girlfriend last year and we saw a huge group of school kids.
We were a little bit shocked and spent a while watching them, simply because we hadn’t seen that many kids in years.
(Korea, not Japan, but similar problem)
Yeah well maybe give people some incentive to want a family like maybe some mother fucking downtime from work and maybe some fucking guarantees that the world isnt going to turn into Venus in one goddamn generation.
The Japanese are just being smart.
Won’t someone think of the economy??
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This is really it. My wife and I are in our mid 30s and are finally at a financial place to have kids. But we work so much, we would not have time to really raise them. If we did have time, then we wouldn’t have the money.
I’m not going to have a kid that we can’t raise properly.
As someone who didn’t see their parents throughout the school year: Kinda sucked.
I’m in EU and I don’t want to have kids here. Couldn’t imagine having kids in Japan.
It’s not just the Japanese either. All developed economies see their birth rates slow. The simplest way I ever heard it explained is that when your society is agrarian, more children means more labor for the farm, and therefore more wealth. Once your economy moves on to manufacturing or services, and children stop being labor, they begin to cost money. And people slow down. These advanced societies also tend to be larger and more populous and therefore more competitive, which deepens the cycle. Add in the longer lifespans in affluent modern societies and you have this demographic crisis. Especially in Japan where they have standout longevity for genetic and dietary reasons.
There are many people that would immigrate and be willing to adapt to the Japanese culture if given the opportunity.
As a foreigner living in SE Asia, it’s inevitable that foreigners bring their culture with them. If culture is a pain point for immigration, it’s a very real fear.
Well, they keep sending kids to do dangerous jobs like piloting mechas and becoming magical girls, now there is only old people left
I thought the old people were busy running samurai schools.
I just finally started watching Gundam and damn do they love putting those kids in mechas. Zeta seems to follow the trend and I guess the other series do too lol.
Evangelion at least tried to provide a plot reason for why the pilots all had to be young teenagers. Skimped a bit on explaining why all the support staff were in their twenties except for the two older dudes at the top tho…
Cuz Gendo wants to fuck them all, probably.
Not the Akagi women, apparently!
Given how Japan seems to embrace AI and robots more than any other nation, it makes me wonder if Japan may inevitably have a significant portion of the population comprised of robots.
Japan is also a nation that spends a lot of money for Civil Servants to do every little thing, including giving people directions at stations instead of just leaving it to signs.
They still use fax machines. Enough said.
Well it’s only a few years after 2015…
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Obviously you don’t work in the medical field.
If they need any advice how not to proceed with such statistics ask Germany
Is that a cheap Holocaust joke or are you just unaware how it looks in Germany: https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/zahlen-und-fakten/soziale-situation-in-deutschland/61538/bevoelkerung-nach-altersgruppen-und-geschlecht/#:~:text=Bei%20den%2070%2D%20bis%2079,J%C3%A4hrigen%20bei%2058%2C6%20Prozent.
We're not that extreme yet, but we have almodt the same. development.
Yeah, and part of the gap can probably be explained by life expectancy differences. Germany faces a tough time by 2040 when the big block of 50-59 who most likely pay an outsized part of the taxes as well will have virtually all retired.
It’s not a holocaust joke. It’s a reference to all the problems in Germany following from the upside down age pyramid
Test:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China’s_final_warning
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China’s_final_warning
Population growth is not sustainable. There must be times when the numbers go down. This is much better than war or famine.