Salvadoran president says he won’t return wrongly deported man to U.S.
(www.washingtonpost.com)
from Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee to world@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 19:21
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from Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee to world@lemmy.world on 14 Apr 19:21
https://lemm.ee/post/61330487
cross-posted from: lemm.ee/post/61330470
Didn’t they US used to send special forces out to rescue people like that in the past?
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“How can I return him to the United States?” Bukele asked Monday during a meeting with President Donald Trump in the Oval Office. “I smuggle him into the United States? Of course I’m not going to do it."
It’s good to know the people running the world have no fucking clue how the world runs.
No, they know it would be easy, as if a prisoner release to a non-hostile is an eldritch incantation
That quote was… holy shit! I mean just say this is the man wrongly deported and put him on a passenger flight. First class at the very least.
Okay can we at least get him out of jail? Why bother answering if your answer will be so stupid.
He answered that too. The quote above doesn’t do justice to the clip. Either how crazy or disgusting it is
It’s not el Salvador’s responsibility to transport him back to the US.
I don’t think he is being stopped from leaving, but it’s up to the US to make it right, not El Salvador
EDIT: it wasn’t clear from the article that he was being held in a prison. My bad on that.
Absolutely should be released, but it is still not on El Salvador to send him to the US.
What? He’s in a prison. Please correct me if I’m mistaken but generally “walking right on out” is like the one thing they get all weird about
Yeah my bad, didn’t realise he was being held in a prison. The article linked is just a tiny snippet so I was missing context.
Other than the fact that he’s in a death camp, nothing is stopping him from walking home!
There is no way that these two didn’t talk about how to answer that question before the press event. This isn’t the president of El Salvador saying he doesn’t want to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia, it’s him saying that he is on Trump’s side.
Damn we shouldn’t let him go home.
Like protesters need to arrest him and use him for a prisoner swap
I’m kind of glad. I want the Supreme Court to realize sooner rather than later that Trump won’t listen to them and that they’re not his friend, just useful patsies.
I’m sorry for all the people that are caught up in Trump’s bullshit. That guy is fucking evil.
They won’t realize that until their face is getting eaten by a leopard in a foreign prison.
And then what? He will just ignore them, then stack the courts if not simply replace the SC judges. Who is going to stop him at this point? He got away with every single crime in his life, of which there are too many to count. He’s ignoring court orders and ruling by illegal executive orders. Nothing but an armed insurrection is going to stop him now.
This ship has sailed and won’t change course without a mutiny.
A lot of people are caught up in trumps bullshit because they are shitty people. Magats wanted this because they are selfish, idiotic monsters. Trump is the symptom and they’re the disease
The US is paying El Salvador money to hold these people. Acting like there is nothing either can do is about as boldface a lie as there is. They can literally do anything they want and have control of both sides of any contracts.
This is them saying “what are you going to do about it?” And what should happen is people need to keep the pressure on so Congress sides with the courts asap (and this guys’ Senator is flying there next week to see him personally).
Trump is going to send American citizens to a place where they can never return, even if sent by accident. The sky has fallen. Why did nobody listen?
“But but but Biden bad!”
But First-past-the-post voting is something we can change on a state by state basis outside of the terminally deadlocked congress.
This means democrats in blue states make it a policy choice to deny 3rd party voters the ability to vote how they want and transfer their vote if their preference didn’t win.
Do you think the democrats are terrified at the prospect of having to compete for your vote? Compete with people that aren’t cartoon villains?
Why do you feel that millions of people who aren’t represented by the two mainstream political parties don’t deserve representation in government?
Electoral Reform Videos
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Exhibit A.
7 month old account, >1000 posts and >3000 comments. That’s 5 posts a day, every day. I’ve been heavily active for over a year and I don’t even have 1/3 the number of comments. I’ll let anyone reading this make of that what they will.
Not nobody, just not the 85 million people who decided to fall asleep on election day.
Israel had ex SS members in its Mossad founders and it urged the Nazis to deport German Jews en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
Your story is a fairy tale.
Are you fucking kidding me? They went that far?
Haaretz - Revealed: How Israel Turned Nazi War Criminals Into Mossad Agents
I will need to remove the paywall, but that is some humanity crushing shit…
For your admiration to continue I guess they’ll have to do a round two on themselves.
“I asked the hit man to not carry out what I ordered and he said no. But of course I’m still paying him. See how powerless I am?”
That is specifically not what he said. He says he differs to the state department who won’t accept him because now they’re saying he’s a terrorist.
This is Trump’s choice, not bukeles imposition.
He could release him even if the US doesn’t want him back, but that would risk his black site contract
Correct that still means it’s trump refusing not bukele.
Prediction: from the point in time when a court finds the DoJ to hold the court in contempt and arrests a high-standing DoJ official (ideally Pam Bondi, but I guess they’d go for lower hanging fruit), it would take about 24 hours until Bukele changes his mind and the Trump administration returns Kilmar Abrego García to US soil.
That is false.
That could be true.
cbsnews.com/…/photojournalist-witnesses-venezuela…
Because trump paid them to murder these men. A satellite image of a mound of bloody bodies is being circulated online. They’re having masked right wing militants like the proud boys and oath keepers kidnap people shove them into unmarked cars and they are mass murdering them in El Salvador.
That is the most single pointless genocide ever committed then. The nazis and zionist want(ed) to kill everyone because they want the land… but Trump and Americans gain absolutely nothing by killing these people. If anything they lose a lot since the overwhelming majority of these people were vital workers.
You’re incorrect Hitler started his regime with the brown shirts SA committing widespread state sponsored domestic terrorism to stamp out any dissent
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13ea9de2-6079-4a62-8897-9fdc089b0287.jpeg">
They’re all dead
As a self-appointed satellite photo analyst, I should point out that the photo lacks time and context and is below the threshold of making any kind of identification.
Violence by guards and inmates happens as a daily matter in a megaprison. If this is part of the same prison complex, then chances are high that it demonstrates violence that occurred to some other unfortunate persons or animals (the photo lacks resolution so badly that even human vs. animal identification is hard to make).
(a larger photo should be published to provide context, and would be easy to publish for a person interested in proving things, so I caution against trusting the source too much - the source might be more interested in spreading a rumour that goes viral)
These guys are likely still alive. But the chances of getting resistant tuberculosis in an El Salvadorian megaprison are extremely high. Besides gang and guard violene, spending time there can bring about a death sentence of a slow and paintful kind - carried out by bacteria that will reliably overcome a human immune system.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3f9812b3-897e-4623-a4ae-ba14c0a9937b.jpeg"> is this more legitimate?
Thank you, I checked it. Speculation: they are washing something there. Or it could be a slaughterhouse to prepare animals for food. One would find out by pointing a drone with a telephoto lens at the place. The spill of strange material is persistent over a month. Whatever they do there, they do it persistently.
the L-shaped building pair is part of the CECOC prison complex
it is within the security perimeter of the prison in general
within the prison, it is within the security perimeter of the staff area (not inmate area)
it appears to be an auxiliary building
schematic here
your satellite photo is from Maxar, copyrighted in 2025, date unknown
there is a spill of something in the yard which might be speculated to be blood, and heaps of something in the yard
for comparison, I opened Google Maps to view a photo
I saw a different photo, but it likewise had an unidentified spill and unidentified material on the yard of the L-shaped building pair, but the arrangement differed somewhat
in my photo, I observed yellowish brown material that could be used to clean up a spill (e.g. sand, sawdust) spread onto the yard
I made an intermediate conclusion: the spill is not a unique thing from one day only, but has persisted there. Prison staff have at some time taken actions to clean up something there.
Example image from March 11, 2025
Result: to conclude “they’re dead” about specific people is not logical.
About the strange spill: satellite imagery does not permit to specifically identify what is going on there. An experienced intelligance analyst would be able to go deeper. To check if the contamination in the yard might be blood, I would find a known slaughterhouse in the region and compare images.
I appreciate the well thought out response but this is a concentration camp. I think we are where we are politically is because we have downplayed the level of corruption we’re facing.