Venezuela: EU calls for full vote count in election dispute (www.dw.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 31 Jul 2024 10:01
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The European Union will not recognize President Nicolas Maduro’s claim to victory in the Venezuelan election until all ballots were counted and accounted for, said Josep Borrell, the bloc’s foreign policy chief.

European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said Wednesday the bloc could not recognize the outcome of Venezuelan election until all votes were counted and records made available.

International criticism has mounted over Venezuela’s vote count that handed incumbent President Nicolas Maduro a narrow victory on Sunday.

Protesters have filled the streets since, with demonstrations turning violent on Monday as authorities in riot gear clashed with people in the capital Caracas.

Other cities saw protests too and at least 11 have died in connection with the protests in the country as of Wednesday, with hundreds more arrested.

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Gsus4@mander.xyz on 31 Jul 2024 10:04 next collapse

And Hungary vetoed the joint EU statement.

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Gsus4@mander.xyz on 31 Jul 2024 10:32 next collapse

I wouldn’t go as far as kicking them out, that would be one more Serbia to deal with, but at least curtail all their political influence in the EU. It is clear that they are a trojan horse, but it would also be good to make the rules for isolating a hostile member clear and predictable, but also flexible enough to adapt to whatever new ways they find to go around it.

Syntha@sh.itjust.works on 31 Jul 2024 11:28 collapse

Countries cannot be kicked out from the EU.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 31 Jul 2024 11:50 next collapse

We know that, but how far does an EU country have to go until they actually find a way to do it? Particularly if a government is elected that tries to break all EU rules and sides with enemies.

Syntha@sh.itjust.works on 31 Jul 2024 13:01 collapse

There is no way to do it and I don’t think they’ll be able to add a way without unanimous support.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 31 Jul 2024 14:16 next collapse

You’re thinking about official EU rules devised for peacetime. I’m thinking about what the EU would do if he did something irreversibly hostile e.g. invited troops/missiles from russia/China to station in Hungary. I don’t think you’d still be following the same rule book by then. I was asking how far the threat would need to go for something coordinated to happen without pussyfooting, regardless of who acts like nothing is happening.

itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 31 Jul 2024 14:55 collapse

You can, however, suspend EU voting power and funding when a state is behaving undemocratically. Make them irrelevant. Still technically part of the EU, but not included in any of the processes until they can prove they respect democratic values

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hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 31 Jul 2024 11:58 collapse

Man I wish Orban and his crew went to visit Titanic

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 31 Jul 2024 12:01 collapse

I heard a heiress with the original Magyar crown jewels was aboard the Titanic when it sunk. Maybe Orban will try to restore hungarian greatness by singlehandedly recovering them. That will finally make him loved and respected by all.

xiao@sh.itjust.works on 31 Jul 2024 10:37 collapse

Why rebellious dictators always need to play the democratic game, they should just be themselves…

Dicators’ fake democracy would only be stable if they do not hurt the feeling of CIA. Like in many countries of Africa, guys can be elected for dozens of years and have many mansions in Europe and USA without any problem.

Dicators need to choose.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 31 Jul 2024 10:55 collapse

El Presidente! How’s Tropico doing this fine day?

xmunk@sh.itjust.works on 31 Jul 2024 10:57 collapse

Muy good. Now, fetch me my admiral outfit… I want to take our tug boat out for a day of fishing.