China unveils a powerful deep-sea cable cutter that could reset the world order
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The tool, which is able to cut lines at depths of up to 4,000 metres (13,123 feet) – twice the maximum operational range of existing subsea communication infrastructure – has been designed specifically for integration with China’s advanced crewed and uncrewed submersibles like the Fendouzhe, or Striver, and the Haidou series.
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That country fucking sucks ass.
they’re also experimenting with dogfighting satellites
edition.cnn.com/2025/03/21/china/…/index.html
That country fucking sucks major ass. Space lasers when?
We literally have starlink and the US run by fascists with nukes. I don’t mind seeing other countries that they threaten ready to combat their information systems.
Yeah, but that’s only as long as they target the US with their bullshit. Dictatorships don’t exactly have a history of stopping after „defeating“ their enemy. They’ll find new ones (spoiler it’s gonna be Europe).
Fr dawg.
Also, I don’t really want to have to learn Mandarin, nom sayin’?
I’m firmly in middle age and don’t have the mental capacity to memorize 30,000 Chinese characters or whatever the count is.
You don’t have the mental capacity to learn mandarin? lol that’s pretty nicely worded. I simply don’t have the fucks and would rather die than learn that language. I had enough trouble with French. And they use „normal“ letters.
Nothing about france can be called normal even with quotation marks.
Is this like how they targeted African countries economies with the Belt and Road Initiative?
Idk. That at least has some mild benefits for the countries. In the form of investions and infrastructure.
Cutting cables is just an act of war if you ask me.
Cutting cables is different than “I can cut cables dont touch me.”
no it doesn’t, you racist.
xi is a harmful influence.
china is more than its politics.
yes, it is racist to hate an entire country of people because of who they are.
that is racism. here look:
“Some deserve to be condemned. And I hate Chinese culture.”
idiotic, ignorant and absurd racism.
“And Japanese for that matter.”
racism.
“They are dystopian if you take a closer look.”
you are obviously ignorant about either of those countries and especially anything about their culture.
which utopian country are you from?
“If a country keeps a horrible leader for that many years, it also tells a lot btw”
oh look, you’re blinding ignorance.
xi abolished term limits years ago. he is not kept in power, he seized it; Trump said he would like to do the same thing.
“Normally you would re to get rid of said leaders.”
wildly historically inaccurate and ignorant!
"But apparently it’s fine. "
nope, and embarrassingly ignorant.
The only racist asshole who i see in this comment is varik who use racist an as excuse when the asshole dont have more arguments
Unsurprising, you are clearly coming from a limited awareness and perspective. Best of luck.
dig your head deep in the sand, if you can’t live without that
Nobody is going to join you down there except other racists. Have fun with each other.
china is its politics. its culture has been majorly reshaped by their dystopian shit. Basically no one there questions their surveillance, what’s more, they ridicule those who oppose it
“china is its politics.”
Absurdly ignorant.
You think a 3000 year old country as large as the US with 1.4 billion people is defined by the recent political actions of a single leader who seized power a decade ago?
You are perceptually limited here, not the Chinese people and their culture.
You are woefully ignorant of both what “china” and “politics” are.
“Basically no one there questions their surveillance”
You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. Do you have any evidence of this lack of questioning from 1.4 billion people? The protests? Articles? No? Of course you don’t you’re dead wrong.
“what’s more, they ridicule those who oppose it”
Chinese people are regularly censured and go to jail for protesting against Xi policies. Go ahead and provide a shred of evidence for your ignorant claims.
Funny reading this on lemmy where almost every single discussion is dominated by US politics, even on posts that have nothing to do with politics.
That seems less concerning to me after reading the article.
It’s concerning that they are developing the capability (which can be used in multiple ways) in the same way that any geopolitical rival developing capacity that competes is concerning, but “dogfighting” evokes the idea that China is planning to fly around and blow stuff up, in an irresponsible, Kessler syndrome-inducing way.
Yes, they’re smarter than us.
Thanks for the laugh.
Enjoy it while you can, they’re coming out on top.
china is pretty cool.
xi has been a harmful influence.
I disagree. China is a scary place with face recognition and all that shit. I wouldn’t ever travel there. If my job sent me there, I would rather quit than travel to china.
Fuck china. Also Chinese culture in general is pretty unappealing to me, who is used to a free life without all these stupid and arbitrary „rules“ like having to be married or else you’re worthless and all that crap.
Also their factories have grids in front of windows so workers can’t kill themselves by jumping out. Tells me all I need to know.
I hate the whole thing, not just the government.
But please note that I do not blanket hate all Chinese people though.
“I disagree”
I’mthen you’re objectively wrong, as you are disagreeing with facts.
“China is a scary place”
like the US.
“with face recognition and all that shit.”
like the US.
“I wouldn’t ever travel there.”
good, they don’t need your racism you would be an embarrassment.
"If my job sent me there, I would rather quit than travel to china. "
small favors.
“. Also Chinese culture in general is pretty unappealing to me”
you obviously know nothing about Chinese culture, and are obviously very racist.
“who is used to a free life…”
houoooo
which “free” country are you from?
"I hate the whole thing, not just the government.
But please note that I do not blanket hate all Chinese people though. "
this is going to shock you, bigot, but all Chinese people are “the whole thing” that you are insulting, despite your racist tantrum being born out of obvious ignorance.
Someone is very butthurt. Probably Chinese, by chance?
You keep saying „like the US“ as if that was an argument at all lol. Yes. Like the US. Both are authoritarian shitholes.
“Someone is very butthurt. Probably Chinese, by chance?”
nope, just smart,well-traveled and knowledgeable.
and… not a racist like you!
I literally said that I don’t hate Chinese people, I hate the culture. That is not racist to hate „work to death“ and „be worthless unless you reach a certain social status“ etc.
I’m sure there a nice aspects. But most of the culture seems forced and cruel. It’s all dependent on social status and that’s kinda sad. I hate that. I would hate it anywhere, not just in china. I would hate it in my country too. So how is this possibly racist? Some cultures are just worse than others.
“I literally said that I don’t hate Chinese people, I hate the culture”
hating a culture, especially when you don’t know anything about except the race of the people who make that culture, is racist.
what you actually said is:
“That country fucking sucks ass.”
these are your new arguments:
"That is not racist to hate „work to death“ and „be worthless unless you reach a certain social status“ etc. "
nobody said that was racist, because you haven’t said those before.
what is racist is you not liking Chinese people and their culture for no reason other than their race.
I am glad you are changing your position.
“I’m sure there a nice aspects.”
there are many.
“But most of the culture seems forced and cruel.”
this is a statement born of ignorance, you can’t draw this conclusion because you obviously don’t know anything about the culture.
as seen here:
“It’s all dependent on social status and that’s kinda sad.”
this is incorrect, stop drawing racist conclusions based on your assumptions and ignorance.
“how is this possibly racist?”
what is racist is you not liking Chinese people and their culture for no reason other than their race.
to the point that you will vehemently insult an entire country, including its people, despite not knowing what you’re talking about.
Tbh I’m gonna ignore you now. Call me a pussy but I’m tired of having my words twisted. I can hate the country. It’s not racist. It would be racist if I hate the people. But I don’t. I hate the culture and you say I don’t know anything about it, even though I just stated things that I know about it. I never mentioned the race. I mentioned „work to death“ to the point where there are grids in front of windows so people can’t jump. And I mentioned social status. What worth does an unmarried 34 year old man have in china? Exactly. Close to none. I know these things. Stop denying the truth.
And lastly FUCK YOU for repeatedly calling me a racist. You’re a fucking idiot if you think that. I clearly and obviously stated that I hate the culture, not the people. And I will say it again. I don’t hate Chinese people. I hate their culture and their government.
Kill me for it. I’m done with this useless discussion.
It’s all good dude. The other people reading this realize you’re not a racist, and that other guy you’re arguing with is extremely narrow in his definition and unnecessarily combative over semantics, to the point of being anal-retentive.
Thank you. I was starting to question myself but seriously couldn’t see anything wrong.
Also your description of this person is very polite. I would have just called them a fucking asshole.
Edit: I love how the person I replied to deleted all of their comments. Says a lot.
I haven’t deleted any of my comments. Why would I?
I prefer confronting bigots and those with limited understanding and correcting their ignorance.
You being racist is not “all good dude.”
You changing your tune is not bad, though.
You’re the only one frightened enough to be using personal insults.
Saying an entire country sucks ass when all you know about it is the race of its people is racist.
Hating cultures you don’t know anything about is racist.
What you said is racist.
I’m glad you’re changing your tune, but it doesn’t change your earlier racism.
“…I know these things.”
You are factually incorrect. you obviously know nothing about china if you think a huge swath of their workforce is useless.
You don’t know things, you are ignorant of things.
what you know: “I hate the culture”, “I hate Chinese culturue”, “fuck China”, “I hate the whole thing”
Most of this is defined as “cultural racism” - "Cultural racism is a concept that has been applied to prejudices and discrimination based on cultural differences between ethnic or racial groups. This includes the idea that some cultures are superior to others "
You said you hate all of it,which includes the 1.4 billion people, which is more conventional racism.
You are racist and are saying racist insults. That’s who you are now, but you do not have to be stuck there.
Now you are trying to change what you said, and claim you are not racist. That’s a good first step, really.
You hate the culture as a whole? Or hate just the regressive/reactionary/conservative/more traditional(to a westerner) elements of it?
Dude how many exceptions you have to make for this argument to even work tells you everything you need to know.
I followed the thread just to see where it landed and I was not disappointed.
And for a well travelled and knowleadgeable person, you give off a very narrow view.
So, in one corner, we have an authoritarian regime, well established, known for violently suppressing minorities and heavilly surveill the citizens, take over territories, and constantly menace and threaten others, while thriving by manipulating money flow world wide and internally using slave work to run their industries.
On the other, we have the exact same thing, but flag and language changes. And classical political quadrant.
You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it. Chinese were lead into an authoritarian regime through force, Americans were subtly led to the same through fear. The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people.
If we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts, willingly.
“So, in one corner, we have…” a biased collection of recent historical political actions by one man by which you are judging an entire country, its culture that has existed at least 300 times as long as that dictator, as well as a population of 1.4 billion other people.
“On the other, we have…” a failed direct comparison that falls apart under the lightest scrutiny.
“You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it”
nobody argued you can’t.
“Chinese were lead…” oh boy. rough.
“Americans were subtly led…”
HAhah, come on…okay. Please elucidate the subtleties of the American conservative, particularly their blunt leader.
“The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people.” This is incorrect. a “Muslim ban” was proposed.
look at his policies. Rump is a rapist. not a subtle rapist, just a rapist.
“f we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts”
I think you are much more ignorant of the facts than refusing to acknowledge them here.
These countries are not the same at all. All facts go against your failed comparisons here and the similarity between the two countries overall.
In fact, you argue against your own conclusion by claiming the two recent dictators came to power differently.
You have no cohesive point or consistency except for how contextually and factually ignorant you are regarding every point you try to make.
I like how you instantly decided I was talking about China when writing that list. Shows your bias. But if you recognized it, good. Only means the similarities run deep enough for both countries to be mistaken by one another.
Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization. I’m aware. But since we are focusing our attention on recent history, let’s say last 70 years, I’m going to opt out the rest as not relevant for the discussion at hand.
Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao ended in violence against his own countrymen and revolutionary allies? The decades of disastrous policies, of cultural, religious and social repression, all of those considered classical indicators of established totalitarian regimes?
Meanwhile, across the Pacific, let’s also ignore and deny the ever growing shadow power and pressure on the government by the “conservative” to hold back or cull whatever small advancements on the social front made, since the 1950’s, paired with the constant recitation of the fear against communism.
There was violence and repression on both ends of this argument, obviously; one enacted it through bullets, while the other enacted it through the pen. Different methods, same results. Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it’s extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome.
Now, if you will allow me, I am going to preserve my critical and accusatory position towards the political establishments of China and USA, as both being authoritarian repressive dangerous regimes.
“…you instantly decided I was talking about China when…”
Yes, seeing as how you said you were commenting on a thread about China and the US, and then at the end mentioned the Chinese and the Americans by name with reference to your comments, I did come to the conclusion you were talking about China and the US.
since you were literally talking about China and the US.
“Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization.”
I did not say that and that is incorrect, but you’re welcome.
“I’m aware”
clearly, you are not.
“But since we are focusing our attention on recent history…”
that is your personal myopia, do not speak for others.
“Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao…”
I guess you could, but I don’t see the point of disagreeing with me there.
His regime and its effects are very well documented, If you look into it at all, you’re just going to prove me right.
“let’s also ignore and deny the…”
go for it.
you understand that your denial of basic historical facts is the reason you are so far off base here, right?
“Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it’s extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome.”
I was waiting for your historically incorrect conclusion of magnet theory, and you finally made your way there.
your argument that the sky and the ocean are the same thing because they’re so far apart from each other is a ridiculous conclusion, but explains your thought process.
You finished waving your red herrings around?
I have to get all your uninformed false starts out of the way somehow.
You need me to recap this exchange inception? Allow me.
I injected myself in this as you made your opinion on how another person was racist torwards chinese in general, as they saw China, the country, as in the regime, as dangerous.
You ascertained your moral high ground out of being well travelled and cultured, without ever addressing a single point of the other person’s argument. Your concern was their apparent racism under your higher morality.
I opted by criticizing this position of your, by clearly stating why and how someone can loathe a country’s regime without having nothing against the people living there, adding in the process why I personally find America snd China’s regimes parallels, although ideologically opposite.
Again, you chose reiterating I am wrong in my views but without addressing a single point of it, except for making vague hollow observations that add nothing to the conversation, not adding counter points of information. Twice.
I’ve already deemed this a closed argument. I am doing it again. Be well, have a good one.
“You need me to recap this exchange…?”
nope, I did that for you a couple comments above.
“as they saw China, the country, as in the regime, as dangerous”
you are making things up. That is not what @DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee said.
@DicksAndPizza@lemm.ee said:
“I hate the culture”, “I hate Chinese culturue”, “fuck China”, “I hate the whole thing”
The whole thing, sport. The people, the culture, the whole thing.
After I pointed out this was racist, DP was quick to change his tune, and say he hated everything about China, specifically the culture, except the people.
Hating culture or thinking one is superior to another is racism, especially when you know so little about the culture except the people who make it up.
Quick def for you: “Cultural racism is a concept that has been applied to prejudices and discrimination based on cultural differences between ethnic or racial groups. This includes the idea that some cultures are superior to others”
“Your concern was their apparent racism”
Yeah, I don’t like racism so I call it out when it occurs. Usually it stems from ignorance, and they just have to be called out to be woken up.
“criticizing this position of your,”
not my position, you’re making this up.
" personally find America snd China’s regimes parallels,”
absolutely absurd, as I explained above. but it’s good you changed your tune to: “although ideologically opposite”, which is still incorrect but more open-minded.
See, all I have to do is call you guys out and you start thinking more critically.
“without addressing a single point of it”
Which part do you want more help on? I have a lot of time and am free to continue correcting and educating you.
“without addressing a single point of it”
clearly not true, and you know it:
“except for…”
except for addressing every single point. With verifiable knowledge.
“I’ve already deemed this a closed argument”
Oh, clearly, it’s so closed you needed to write paragraphs rewriting yours and others’ comment history and reframing their racism.
“Be well, have a good one.”
Thanks, I’m having a GREAT one!
I don’t wanna get in on the whole shouting match whether China bad or China good, but DicksAndPozza was pretty explicitly not talking about the regime, but the Chinese culture and people. Which is racist.
And what I read and understood was a loathing for the regime and social practices by it enacted onto the general populatio ln and not a generalized hatred towards the average individual. I also found there was an exageration to their words, although crude, but every person has their way to convey emotion.
There are better ways to confront people on their views than to start from insult.
Did my replies come out as shouting? Damn. Not what I intended.
I see that your english is a bit wrong. It’s not smart, neither knowledgeable when opinions are presented as facts, that is called dumb and deceived in english
“…as facts, that is called dumb and deceived…”
You use incorrect words, conjugations, punctuation and definitions as incorrect responses to your own reading incomprehension. I can help you with your English(the capitalized language).
Your comments really come off as CCP propaganda. Either you drank the Koolaid, or your trying to fool people for the sake of a shitty government.
“Your comments really come off as CCP propaganda”
i warned against condemning and insulting am entire country of people and their culture because the self-appointed dictator is a harmful influence.
so by me criticizing the head of the CCP and his harmful influence on China, you are seeing “CCP propaganda”?
sounds like you might be influenced by…propaganda.
“trying to fool people for the sake of a shitty government.”
how does my criticism of the head of the Chinese government in charge of all policy decisions in the last decade fool youn into support of the Chinese government?
Yeah man zero AI facial recognition tech in the USA that stuff is only for the evil Chinese. Listen to yourself you propagandized idiot
I never said it didn’t happen in the USA? Not everyone lives there lol. Some people live in Europe where this doesn’t happen.
But it’s most blatantly used in china.
Also fuck you for calling me an idiot. Why is everyone resorting to insults? Are you a child?
It’s give and take. China is smart enough to invest in its country and its people. They’re making great scientific and technical advances that’s on a course that will surpass the west in many areas. The individual rights and freedoms are terrible though to the point where unsanctioned creativity is punished.
The whole country is dystopian. But agree there are smart people. They are just used for doing/inventing awful stuff.
They are playing the long game and are currently the only ones benefiting from all that happens. They sit by idly watching our idiot leaders antagonise each other.
Lmao people will say this same shit about the us in 8 years when all the rights have been stripped and it’s run by tech bros
Yes. In many ways, China is exactly what Republicans wet dream about. A single party runs unopposed controlling all elements of government. Criticizing them is illegal. All businesses are protected by the government from uppity customers. Employees are expected to work 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. 6 days a week for few benefits with almost no workers rights…
It’s the Republican dream.
You know as much about china as dolphins do about integrated circuits.
This entire website is heavily propagandized about China I’ve noticed. It really sucks that you just can’t seem to have a normal conversation about China anywhere in the internet without propagandized freaks shouting at you that it the worst country that has ever existed
Fucker McGucker, this is evil
…as reported by the South China Morning Post lol
let’s hope it’s bs
They already do it by simply dragging boat anchors across, it’s obviously going to be weaponized further. There have multiple data and power cables cut like this in the Baltic sea recently. edition.cnn.com/2024/12/30/europe/…/index.html
max depth of baltic sea is 1,500 ft
And it was done with something no designed for this purpose. Why is it hard to conceive that a tool designed for it would do much better?
because military subs can’t go that deep. It’s a lot harder to police.
I don’t think they need to send people down or even complex sensors, they could use a similar dumb tactic, as above, of dragging something heavy for kilometers, until they can confirm that there was a disruption on the network.
Historically they were a solid paper, based out of Hong Kong. It’s a toss up these days though, not sure.
Good thing we have the channel tunnel I guess, repurpose that for data cables that are protected.
I didn’t know we have a channel tunnel to the american continents
Sure, it will be a shame to lose south/central America and Canada, but nothing else of value over there.
most of online services run there. google, youtube, everything microsoft, credit card processing mastercard and visa, tons of others. surely they have EU infrastructure, but it’s a big question how would they handle a network split, if aallt
Operational depth is essentially the same as the claimed operational depth that oceangate sub that popped the other year. I have a lot more confidence that these things will actually work when China does it instead of some incompetent millionaire/billionaire.
This could have been a The Onion title
SATCOM here we come!
Weird way to pronounce starlink, since it seems that’s what they’re hoping for. Privatizing the government
Seriously… Anything but Starlink
Don’t worry, they’re working on satellite warfare too. Kessler syndrome, here we come
Working on the thing we’ve had for half a century? Improving sure but thaad and kenetic kill devices have been around forever like South Korea just showed video of their testing which means it’s almost certainly last gen and the new Gen is deployed.
youtu.be/RnofCyaWhI0
youtu.be/DfiAPx0rPXg
I sincerely hope they’re smart enough not to trigger that.
Someone posted an article elsewhere on the thread about China practicing “dogfighting” in space - which, after you remove the fear-mongering, is just them figuring out how to do satellite-satellite maneuvering. Still immense opportunity for runaway collisions, but it seems like the military applicability is more toward sabotage than blowing things up. I could definitely see a scenario where high value satellites have had small boosters affixed to them, their electronics tampered, or some other way of commandeering or de-orbiting them to deprive their owners of them. A microwave + laser could disable smaller sats from above, then ablate some of their exterior to sap momentum so gravity drops them in short order. (Maybe. That’s idle speculation, but generating the power and dissipating the heat in space could make that idea impossible.)
Yeah, the only feasible way to do satellite warfare without creating a ton of debris is to mechanically attach to an enemy satellite and drop it out of orbit.
Like imagine an autonomous attacker satellite that clamps onto the target satellite, and uses thrusters to drop itself (and the target) into the ocean. Any kind of kinetic weaponry to destroy the target satellite will just end up with a debris cloud around the earth, making future space travel impossible.
But no country wants to invest in satellites just to intentionally drop them out of orbit. Every single attack would be prohibitively expensive when compared to just firing a missile at the satellite.
Let me guess, they already tested it
“That could reset the world order”
Lmao, what hyperbolic bullshit. It’s just a cable cutter. Most nations have shit like this, but thanks for letting us know in the title this is just Chinese propaganda.
It will shift the orders from cables to starlink. Not the best idea tho, it sucks ass
Just wait! Then they’ll start flooding space with mini satellites. Then they’ll start dogfighting with them. :)
You’re like a day behind on the news 😄
I knew when I wrote it 🙈
DOGEfighting
Powerful seems like a pointless adjective here.
It doesn’t take much power to destroy a cable. Did they invent a really long, and powerful, chain with a powerful anchor on it only usable by a boat with powerful electric winch?
Maybe they put AI in it too, for extra power of course
Oh you mean the AI Pro Power Winch 9000? Available at a genocidal dictatorship near you for 3 easy payments of 19.99B USD.
If I had that type of technology I would not advertise it
For me it’s quite the opposite. It’s all about power projection in the grand scheme of things.
A doomsday device is useless if no one knows you have it.
“why didn’t you tell the world, eh?”
No shit, lol. Those cunts have been cutting cables for almost a year now. This is why countries tend to hide the exact locations of cables. Shit is expensive.
Reset the world order by sending everybody including China back to stone age right? That’d be fun.
Well, everybody except people hooked up to Starlink and other satellite based internet
You realize that data comes from the same place, right?
Are we talking about the data? I understand the hosts and servers are fine, but if the cables are all destroyed, we will have to rely on access to satellite internet. They are actively economically attacking Verizon, canceling contracts they had and replacing them with SpaceX ones.
Like have ANY of you EVER roleplayed in DnD or like, done anything? Are you just chronically bamboozled? Genuinely curious. I talk to ppl like this all day every day - are you just stupid? Am I stupid for being here talking to you all trying to communicate what’s happening?
Maybe you’re just dissociated and unable to register everything. Idk. Jesus.
If only cables can be designed to pull down ships that try to cut or anchor drag them. Maybe defensive cable around the main cable. Or some kind bigger of casing/shell around actual cable.
That’s not how reality works… You can’t make the cable pull down the ship. And even if you could they’d just lose the anchor
Please, do it
no don’t
Coming soon to vague shell corporation owned fishing boats to the shore of the Baltic and Northern seas!
Sponsored by China and Russia
Me resetting the world order:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4c8cca75-68c9-4ca5-9dba-89bf7c69ba55.gif">
I can have 2 million of these tomorrow! Who’s biting?
This is why we can’t have nice things.
Cool
So for every European deep sea cable cut it should send a fleet of Russian and Chinese ships to the bottom, torpedo the fuckers. Just by default presume it was either of them and make then responsible for the safety of our cables. If you fail to protect our cables, we’ll send your ships to the next life.
Gloves. Off.
Exactly what I’ve been screaming. Hang the captain and first mate, scuttle the fucking ship. This shit needs to be treated as piracy, no quarter given.
Luckily capital punishment is banned in most countries.
And that attitude is why China continues to test us, they know we’re pussies. You should see what they’re pulling on Vietnam and the Philippines in the South China Sea.
I really don’t care.
Capital punishment is immoral and that’s that.
Glad you’re in a society that is able to entertain that notion. Looks like that society is going to collapse. Good luck.
From my point of view the country most famous for its death punishment is collapsing.
I mean, no? Ok let’s say you did cut off the internet, there’s still radio. Shortwave still can reach spies in foreign countries with their numbers stations now, and then there’s VHF/UHF at home etc. Snail mail still exists, so does ol’ fashioned landlines for communication at least internally even if they cut undersea telcom cables, hell I’m pretty sure CDMA would still be running, this sets us back to like 1990 at most, especially if we take this threat seriously and start implementing non-internet based (or sat internet) fallbacks just in case standard comms go down for a while until a new cable can be lain.
Like don’t get me wrong, we’d definitely feel the effects, but this isn’t some kind of world dominating shit we’re talking about here, it’s just pretty inconvenient, especially if we already have alts in place as fallbacks so we don’t have to scramble to set them up.
The knock on effects of substantial infrastructure interruptions like this can have massive impacts that snowball aggressively. Not saying you’re wrong, but it is nothing to scoff at. Things like this do have the potential to severely change the geopolitical landscape.
I’m not saying it’s nothing, just saying I think it’s massively overstated.
This feels really dumb from China. This is not a weapon against military. This is a weapon against civilian insfrastructure. You don’t get minds and hearts of people by attacking something they love