HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works
on 28 Nov 03:14
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Israeli forces on Thursday killed a pair of Palestinian men in the occupied West Bank after they appeared to surrender to troops, drawing Palestinian accusations that the men were executed “in cold blood.” The Israeli military said it was investigating.
The IDF is filled with racist motherfuckers who should be charged with murder and promptly sent to the worst jail in the world.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
on 28 Nov 03:28
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Seriously, the IDF is hardly a professional military at this point, in most ways it is simply a formalized institution for ethnic cleansing using expensive military equipment they are given as handouts by the US military.
The IDF does not even follow basic rules of engagement, they see a civilian, have impulse feelings about it and then shoot. No threat analysis, no consideration over whether lethal force is necessary by a chain of command and absolutely NO accountability for blatant horrific war crimes. The IDF is not a military, it is a bunch of murderers wearing military fatigues.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 28 Nov 05:51
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Not disagreeing, but "at this point" implies they were ever anything else.
PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 28 Nov 08:02
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They’ve proven themselves a capable actual army in the past against numerically far superior opponents, displaying both organizational and individual competence alongside their evil. Now they don’t even have that. It’s just a very well funded gang.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
on 28 Nov 09:20
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Yeah that's fair, though I do have to note that other than Yom Kippur in none of Israel's past conflicts was it seriously outnumbered. That's the image they like to sell, and intuitively it feels like it should be true, but it's really not. Israel has always been good at raising massive armies relative to their population, and for instance surprisingly way outnumbered their enemies in 1948. Again not contesting your point; I agree that they were much more competent in the past.
If you refer to the 47 it is propaganda. The numbers of soldiers on both sides was very close and at first the zionists militias weapons was inferior but chsnged quickly
Back in 1994, the IDF granted Itamar Ben-Gvir an exemption from mandatory military service due to his right wing views. He has since been convicted (in Israeli courts) of supporting a terrorist organization, and is currently serving as Israel’s minister of national security; and is a key figure in maintaining the current governing coalition.
The governing coalition has been in constant tension with senior IDF leadership, which has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved, and that continued operation is counter productive.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
on 28 Nov 16:46
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The governing coalition has been in constant tension with senior IDF leadership, which has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved, and that continued operation is counter productive.
The IDF is still full of foot soldiers who have willingly and knowingly prosecuted the Palestinian Genocide, the entire “military” structure is complicit top to bottom. IDF soldiers all the way from the top leadership down to grunts deserve to be in jail equally.
Israeli society has been radicalized into genocide, complicity is omnipresent and distributed down chains of command, if IDF personnel think they can argue “I was just following orders!” they are ignorant fools who refused to learn history or listen to basic calls for human empathy and they deserve to be prosecuted as active and willing participants in the Palestinian Genocide to the full extent possible.
has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved
Over 120k people dead. Most buildings and infrastructure turned to rubble. “Mission accomplished”.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
on 28 Nov 16:31
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My understanding is that they absolutely get their shit pushed in when they can’t hide behind their airplanes and have to fight armed adversaries in face-to-face combat.
Oct 7th offensive was only turned around when gunships showed up. “The best most badass armed forces” in one of the most fortified and militarized region on earth were utterly destroyed by guys with trucks and AKs.
The myth of the IDF being elite and uniquely brave is one of the biggest dog shit lies ever told.
answersplease77@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 06:12
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and took the bodies afterward for organ harvesting
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com
on 28 Nov 08:08
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Things are bad enough without such baseless claims.
LemmyThinkAboutThat@lemmy.myserv.one
on 28 Nov 09:15
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Maybe @answerplease77@lemmy.world was referring to:
In 2009, an interview with Dr. Yehuda Hiss—former head of the Abu Kabir Forensic Institute—was leaked. Recorded in 2000 by Nancy Scheper-Hughes—professor of anthropology at the University of California-Berkeley—Hiss said that pathologists at the institute took skin, corneas, bones and heart valves from the bodies of Israeli citizens, Israeli soldiers, Palestinians and immigrants, often without consent from the deceased’s family.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com
on 28 Nov 23:46
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I’m aware of the claims. The claim the commenter made was that they took the bodies of the two in the story for this purpose, which is baseless.
There’s a big difference from “there are occurrences of a thing happening” vs. “the thing is happening right now, right here, to these people.”
If you think every odd body is getting hauled off for organ harvesting, you’re being a little nuts. It was stated to invoke an emotional response, making a bad an evil situation seem more bad and more evil without any evidence. Just internet hatemongering shock value that doesn’t do any good and just distracts from the issue.
hatemongering implies reasons to hate aren’t maxed…
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com
on 29 Nov 00:05
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Plenty of reasons to hate Israel, but my toast that burnt this morning can’t be blamed on them. Has Israel burnt toast? Most likely. Does israel have systematic policies in place, or an unspoken culture, regarding burnt toast? Maybe; it should probably be investigated. Did they burn my toast this morning? I have no basis to suspect that, but I could go around yelling about it and people might even agree because there are lots of proven things to hate Israel for already and it’s the internet…
But yes, it certainly is maxed; which makes this behavior even weirder to me.
Oh, so the two surrendering dead guys are burnt toast. Got it.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com
on 29 Nov 03:58
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Perhaps, if you suck at abstract thought… but I meant it to be a bit broader than that.
Stop. Making. Shit. Up.
Substantiate claims. Speak truth. It’s fine if you want to draw attention to issues, but connecting them to random shit with no reason and stating it as a fact is fucking pathetic.
They didn’t kill them to take organs. They killed them because they saw the Epstein files. See how fucking stupid that sounds? Man… (Not a 1:1)
Two human being getting fucking murdered for no reason by a genocidal ethnostate is bad enough without you needing to throw shit at a wall. It just makes people who care about this look like fucking idiots making up shit to be mad at when there’s plenty of real things to be mad at
Who hurt you? I’m not even the person you were replying to, I just like antagonizing antagonizers. Mission accomplished.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com
on 29 Nov 15:33
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Ah yes, the “stop pointlessly lying on the internet” guy is an antagonizer… Twat. Grow up.
answersplease77@lemmy.world
on 29 Nov 07:11
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Watch the full video I linked up. They dragged the bodies afterward. Nothing far fetched by what they intend to do with them as they’ve done thousands times before.
and took the bodies afterward for organ harvesting
False. Instead they used an excacator to collapse part of the warehouse building (the rather large liftable door) on the victims’ bodies, likely hoping to hide their deeds for a while. They were unaware that a journalist was filming them with a telephoto lens.
answersplease77@lemmy.world
on 29 Nov 07:08
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You are false. Watch the full video at 2:05 they brought a stretcher to take the bodies afterward:
If people don’t watch it then the IDF wins. The videos and photos documenting atrocities are being suppressed with the excuse that they are “too graphic” for the general public to see.
Graphic isn’t even the right term to describe it. It’s just… Nonchalant. It’s very much like that recent Oscar winning movie about Nazi Germany, where people are just living their lives while horrors are happening in the background. There’s way more graphic footage of this genocide, but this one just struck me in a weird way.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 03:33
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That sounds like Israel. A country that should be bombed into the ground on the character traits of its armed services alone, without even getting into the politics or history of the place.
andrewrgross@slrpnk.net
on 28 Nov 07:21
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The murdered we’re Al-Muntasir Billah Abdullah, 26; and Youssef Asasa, 37.
Their poor families…
Also, fuck the AP for making that paragraph 11. Jeez.
answersplease77@lemmy.world
on 28 Nov 12:06
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same exact thing that happened few months ago too. IOF ambushed a guy in the West Bank who surrendered with both his hands up
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The IDF is filled with racist motherfuckers who should be charged with murder and promptly sent to the worst jail in the world.
Seriously, the IDF is hardly a professional military at this point, in most ways it is simply a formalized institution for ethnic cleansing using expensive military equipment they are given as handouts by the US military.
The IDF does not even follow basic rules of engagement, they see a civilian, have impulse feelings about it and then shoot. No threat analysis, no consideration over whether lethal force is necessary by a chain of command and absolutely NO accountability for blatant horrific war crimes. The IDF is not a military, it is a bunch of murderers wearing military fatigues.
Not disagreeing, but "at this point" implies they were ever anything else.
They’ve proven themselves a capable actual army in the past against numerically far superior opponents, displaying both organizational and individual competence alongside their evil. Now they don’t even have that. It’s just a very well funded gang.
Yeah that's fair, though I do have to note that other than Yom Kippur in none of Israel's past conflicts was it seriously outnumbered. That's the image they like to sell, and intuitively it feels like it should be true, but it's really not. Israel has always been good at raising massive armies relative to their population, and for instance surprisingly way outnumbered their enemies in 1948. Again not contesting your point; I agree that they were much more competent in the past.
If you refer to the 47 it is propaganda. The numbers of soldiers on both sides was very close and at first the zionists militias weapons was inferior but chsnged quickly
Back in 1994, the IDF granted Itamar Ben-Gvir an exemption from mandatory military service due to his right wing views. He has since been convicted (in Israeli courts) of supporting a terrorist organization, and is currently serving as Israel’s minister of national security; and is a key figure in maintaining the current governing coalition.
The governing coalition has been in constant tension with senior IDF leadership, which has long argued that all achievable military objectives in Gaza have been achieved, and that continued operation is counter productive.
The IDF is still full of foot soldiers who have willingly and knowingly prosecuted the Palestinian Genocide, the entire “military” structure is complicit top to bottom. IDF soldiers all the way from the top leadership down to grunts deserve to be in jail equally.
Israeli society has been radicalized into genocide, complicity is omnipresent and distributed down chains of command, if IDF personnel think they can argue “I was just following orders!” they are ignorant fools who refused to learn history or listen to basic calls for human empathy and they deserve to be prosecuted as active and willing participants in the Palestinian Genocide to the full extent possible.
Over 120k people dead. Most buildings and infrastructure turned to rubble. “Mission accomplished”.
My understanding is that they absolutely get their shit pushed in when they can’t hide behind their airplanes and have to fight armed adversaries in face-to-face combat.
Oct 7th offensive was only turned around when gunships showed up. “The best most badass armed forces” in one of the most fortified and militarized region on earth were utterly destroyed by guys with trucks and AKs.
The myth of the IDF being elite and uniquely brave is one of the biggest dog shit lies ever told.
Not only the idf but israeli leadership since it’s creation
For the people who want to see the video. PS: DON’T. There’s a good reason outlets are only posting pictures. veganism.social/users/vega/…/115624229593254481
and took the bodies afterward for organ harvesting
Things are bad enough without such baseless claims.
Maybe @answerplease77@lemmy.world was referring to:
Which came from:
Israel Organ Harvesting Allegations Explained
The links below may be referring to the same article:
What evidence supports allegations of Israeli harvesting and who has investigated them? Checked on November 25, 2025
A brief history of Israel’s theft and trafficking of Palestinian organs
I must apologize as I haven’t read the rest of the results, but I used search.disroot.org and the articles above are outdated.
Guess who has the world’s largest skin bank, but also a very low rate of donors?
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/gaza-authorities-accuse-israel-of-stealing-organs-from-released-palestinian-bodies/3719641
I’m aware of the claims. The claim the commenter made was that they took the bodies of the two in the story for this purpose, which is baseless.
There’s a big difference from “there are occurrences of a thing happening” vs. “the thing is happening right now, right here, to these people.”
If you think every odd body is getting hauled off for organ harvesting, you’re being a little nuts. It was stated to invoke an emotional response, making a bad an evil situation seem more bad and more evil without any evidence. Just internet hatemongering shock value that doesn’t do any good and just distracts from the issue.
hatemongering implies reasons to hate aren’t maxed…
Plenty of reasons to hate Israel, but my toast that burnt this morning can’t be blamed on them. Has Israel burnt toast? Most likely. Does israel have systematic policies in place, or an unspoken culture, regarding burnt toast? Maybe; it should probably be investigated. Did they burn my toast this morning? I have no basis to suspect that, but I could go around yelling about it and people might even agree because there are lots of proven things to hate Israel for already and it’s the internet…
But yes, it certainly is maxed; which makes this behavior even weirder to me.
Weirdest strawman ever…
It’s called an analogy but good try
Oh, so the two surrendering dead guys are burnt toast. Got it.
Perhaps, if you suck at abstract thought… but I meant it to be a bit broader than that.
Stop. Making. Shit. Up.
Substantiate claims. Speak truth. It’s fine if you want to draw attention to issues, but connecting them to random shit with no reason and stating it as a fact is fucking pathetic.
They didn’t kill them to take organs. They killed them because they saw the Epstein files. See how fucking stupid that sounds? Man… (Not a 1:1)
Two human being getting fucking murdered for no reason by a genocidal ethnostate is bad enough without you needing to throw shit at a wall. It just makes people who care about this look like fucking idiots making up shit to be mad at when there’s plenty of real things to be mad at
Who hurt you? I’m not even the person you were replying to, I just like antagonizing antagonizers. Mission accomplished.
Ah yes, the “stop pointlessly lying on the internet” guy is an antagonizer… Twat. Grow up.
Watch the full video I linked up. They dragged the bodies afterward. Nothing far fetched by what they intend to do with them as they’ve done thousands times before.
lemmy.world/comment/20435119
lemmy.world/comment/20750350
answersplease77@lemmy.world wrote:
False. Instead they used an excacator to collapse part of the warehouse building (the rather large liftable door) on the victims’ bodies, likely hoping to hide their deeds for a while. They were unaware that a journalist was filming them with a telephoto lens.
You are false. Watch the full video at 2:05 they brought a stretcher to take the bodies afterward:
youtube.com/watch?v=B7t-IGOokbU
and there have hundrends of bodies returned with missing organs. It’s their standard protocol to take the bodies they execute same as this video too:
reddit.com/…/israeli_soldiers_were_filmed_assault…
If people don’t watch it then the IDF wins. The videos and photos documenting atrocities are being suppressed with the excuse that they are “too graphic” for the general public to see.
Graphic isn’t even the right term to describe it. It’s just… Nonchalant. It’s very much like that recent Oscar winning movie about Nazi Germany, where people are just living their lives while horrors are happening in the background. There’s way more graphic footage of this genocide, but this one just struck me in a weird way.
That sounds like Israel. A country that should be bombed into the ground on the character traits of its armed services alone, without even getting into the politics or history of the place.
The murdered we’re Al-Muntasir Billah Abdullah, 26; and Youssef Asasa, 37.
Their poor families… Also, fuck the AP for making that paragraph 11. Jeez.
same exact thing that happened few months ago too. IOF ambushed a guy in the West Bank who surrendered with both his hands up
youtube.com/watch?v=uPNqYEV3z1c
youtube.com/shorts/1r5E039-fUc
Here’s the video: files.catbox.moe/58sxzg.mp4
Modern “journalism” is a crock of shit.
Well yeah. Much safer to do so then when they are shooting back.