Polish MP displays Israeli flag with swastika in parliament (en.parapolitika.gr)
from throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to world@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 00:02
https://lemmy.nz/post/36524914

Polish far-right MP sparks outrage by displaying Israeli flag with Nazi swastika in parliament, accusing Israel of genocide in controversial statement.

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sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Apr 00:14 next collapse

I see the Israeli flag as equivalent to the Swastika or Confederate Battle Flag.

They’re all symbols of hate.

kreskin@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 00:54 next collapse

Its simply the truth.

chosensilence@pawb.social on 15 Apr 01:41 next collapse

They are the same symbol.

BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 01:53 next collapse

Because Poland remembers

khaleer@sopuli.xyz on 15 Apr 09:23 collapse

poland remembers nothing, the MP showing this is literal nazi that would go and deny holocaust and praise mustached painter. People fall for their sticky trap like flies.

Kkk2237pl@szmer.info on 15 Apr 11:37 next collapse

This MP is know from love to Russia, anti EU propaganda. I wouldn’t take him seriously.

khaleer@sopuli.xyz on 15 Apr 13:19 collapse

I am aware of that, but according to polls ~12 percent of voters is either not aware of that, or like that part of him. And this 12 percent is not something I can ignore.

Kkk2237pl@szmer.info on 15 Apr 13:49 collapse

I was born and grew up in Polish village. You wont realize how people are stupid And easily to manipulate.

And you can add to it, that he claimed to be anti Ukrainian- people dont like them because they compete with Polish people for work, and you have polls like that.

Sad but true

khaleer@sopuli.xyz on 15 Apr 17:37 collapse

oh trust me, I know it first hand 😁

And yeah, I also have to deal with anti-Ukrainian folks on everyday basic.

DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com on 15 Apr 12:57 collapse

So is he waving the flag in support of Israel?

null@lemmy.org on 15 Apr 01:54 next collapse

Based as fuck.

killea@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 02:13 collapse

I’m gonna have to agree. More visible people need to start saying shit like this and louder.

edit: hold on. “shit like this” could be anything. I’m talking about the obvious tyranny, human degradation, and sheer dissolution of collective reality we’re living in, obviously.

wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe on 15 Apr 03:08 next collapse

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bearboiblake@pawb.social on 15 Apr 03:26 next collapse

This is why leftists and even liberals need to demand anti-zionist leaders. We do NOT want the far-right to be leading the fight against zionism.

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Apr 03:35 next collapse

I saw a couple Israeli flags on houses recently and it was the same to me as seeing the Nazi flag.

tirateimas@lemmy.pt on 15 Apr 09:06 next collapse

We definitely can find similarities in their actions

middlemanSI@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 09:52 collapse

That’s an understatement.

CyroSignal@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 09:19 next collapse

This MP is absolutely right.

bufalo1973@piefed.social on 15 Apr 09:24 collapse

I’d even say far right

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net on 15 Apr 09:29 next collapse

Polish MTG, basically. Be careful who you cheer for.

vga@sopuli.xyz on 15 Apr 14:10 collapse

Horseshoe theory rising its ugly head

mlxdy@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 09:41 next collapse

Party from which he comes from is equivalent of German AFD. They are hating jews like they hate LGBT people. One of the ex-leaders of party is known for saying that “Hitler didn’t know about holocaust” and sending birthday wishes to Vladimir Putin calling him “your excellence”. And this guy with this swastika was drinking vodka at the rostrum.

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axh@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 11:11 next collapse

I am confused. Because the far-right hates Jews but loves swastikas… So, what does that even mean for him? Did he finally realise fascists were evil? Or does he like Jews now?

Kkk2237pl@szmer.info on 15 Apr 11:38 next collapse

What is more, leader od the most far right party in Poland, who is Jew themselves, he is the most anti Jew ,)

axh@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 13:57 collapse

No no, that’s self-hate, it seems to be a standard practice on the far-right.

UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 13:13 next collapse

I kind of doubt that too many polish people like swastikas…

axh@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 14:07 collapse

That’s the problem, because those far-right groups claim they are patriots, but they also praise Hitler

Witchfire@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 13:22 next collapse

Obviously they’re all just hardcore fans of South Asian mythology /s

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 15 Apr 13:27 collapse

You’re not confused, they’re confused. Your befuddlement is a perfectly reasonable response to their incongruity.

axh@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 11:17 next collapse

The funny thing is that for that he got into “trouble” with the US ambassador (who is a Jew). The guy already had a fight with the Polish left. That means that now both Polish right and left are for once on the same side.

The ambassador is the worst ambassador I ever heard of. The only thing that guy does is argue with anyone who dares to criticise his master Trump.

theacharnian@lemmy.ca on 15 Apr 12:00 next collapse

Far right fuckface tries to make a point using a swastika.

Gus Fring meme.

We are not the same.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 15 Apr 12:36 next collapse

I question the sincerity of the messenger but, if the boot fits…

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 15 Apr 13:29 next collapse

Who would have thought that the lesson the Jews would take from the Holocaust would be to “Pay It Forward?”

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 14:00 next collapse

“Israel” isn’t synonymous with “Judaism”.

What we have in Israel is one more instance of British colonial Divide and Conquer imperial strategy. Select a minority group, grant them favored status, heavily arm them and use them as your proxies to secure territory, isolate them geopolitically so you’re their only friends, then use them as de facto mercenaries to suppress the majority ethnic groups for their labor.

The inversion of this strategy has been the degree to which Israelis have played this against their imperial sponsors. They’ve converted far right Christians into their own proxies, they’ve infiltrated the police and intelligence agencies of their benefactors, and they’ve exploited anti-Islamic sentiment to send Europeans to war against the majority ethnic groups across the Middle East.

The lay Jew isn’t having a say in any of this. They’re just more pawns on the board for Israeli, American, and European power brokers to push around.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 15 Apr 14:10 collapse

You say this, and I have no animosity toward individual Jews at all.

But it is a simple fact that the Israeli citizens, who are mostly Jews, are nearly fully behind all of the atrocities their country is committing. They overwhelmingly supported the Gaza Genocide, and they support the civilian bombings of Iran and Lebanon.

I don’t blame Jews around the world in general, but the Israeli CITIZENS shouldn’t get a pass for their support of their government’s atrocities just because they are Jews.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 14:16 collapse

the Israeli citizens, who are mostly Jews, are nearly fully behind all of the atrocities their country is committing.

The Israeli lay citizens are at least we immersed in Zionist propaganda as any American or Brit. To crib from Glenn Beck, it’s always 9/12 over there

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 15 Apr 14:26 collapse

That’s no excuse. Nobody gets fed more conservative propaganda than America, and yet a full 2/3 are absolutely against our War in Iran, and most of that remaining 1/3 are lying.

The Israelis have had ample opportunity to reign in their aggression toward their neighbors for years, and they’ve only gotten worse. In the beginning it was defensive, but somewhere along the line, they became the aggressor, and now it isn’t Israel who has to worry about the Middle East, it’s the Middle East, and indirectly, everyone else, who has to worry about Israel.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 15:28 collapse

Nobody gets fed more conservative propaganda than America

I don’t know how you measure that, per say, but it’s not an issue of raw volume. You can receive less conservative propaganda than your neighbor and still end up with a conservative worldview.

yet a full 2/3 are absolutely against our War in Iran, and most of that remaining 1/3 are lying

Americans are largely against the Iran War because it spiked the price of gasoline. That’s not a position rooted in morality. It’s the same consumerist reactionary sentiment that powered Trump to election the last two times he won (and Biden, the time Trump lost).

The Israelis have had ample opportunity to reign in their aggression toward their neighbors for years

‘Prefer Death Over IDF’: Israeli Jews RIOT In Jerusalem; Refuses To Serve Military & Fight Hamas

I’m so sick to death of hearing the “police state isn’t a big deal, you just need to fight armed goons on the street harder.” Tell it to Alex Pretti and Renée Good.

Do you really think the violence of the Israeli state is limited to Palestinians? It is applied to every dissident group.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 15 Apr 17:12 collapse

Do you really think the violence of the Israeli state is limited to Palestinians?

No, of course I don’t think that, and I wrote the exact opposite, and you even quoted it:

The Israelis have had ample opportunity to reign in their aggression toward their neighbors for years

And I even mentioned them bombing Lebanon. So, no, I DON’T think their aggression is limited to Palestinians, as I clearly indicated.

inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 14:32 collapse

It’s all too often that the abused become the abuser. the circle of abuse continues.

sudoer777@lemmy.ml on 15 Apr 14:21 next collapse

Is that meant to indicate support to Israel or opposition?

Jankatarch@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 17:51 collapse

It’s meant to indicate opposition for Jewish people, apparently. Still enjoy Zionists getting hit in the crossfire tho.

inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 14:35 next collapse

So basically a racist broken clock that made a point that a lot of us are making for the wrong reasons.

Chais@sh.itjust.works on 15 Apr 21:32 collapse

Wait, so does the racist broken clock make the point for the wrong reasons or we?

UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 16:17 next collapse

Tommy G did a thing on Isreal

youtu.be/tzvHROvWjEg

khaleer@sopuli.xyz on 15 Apr 17:38 collapse

So we are celebrating a nazi, holding a nazi symbol now? Nice. (sorry I saw too many post being pro-this-piece-of-human-shit)

titanicx@lemmy.zip on 15 Apr 17:39 collapse

I am so fucking confused here…