The deal maker makes his worst deal yet (www.middleeasteye.net)
from ZMoney@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 06:34
https://lemmy.world/post/45323253

“To this end, while rejecting all plans presented by the enemy, Iran drafted a 10-point plan and presented it to the American side via the country of Pakistan. It emphasized fundamental points such as controlled passage through the Strait of Hormuz in coordination with Iran’s armed forces (which grants Iran a unique economic and geopolitical position), the necessity of ending the war against all components of the Axis of Resistance (which signifies a historic defeat for the aggression of the child-killing Israeli regime), the withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from all bases and deployment points in the region, the establishment of a secure transit protocol in the Strait of Hormuz such that it guarantees Iranian dominance according to the agreed protocol, the full payment of Iran’s damages according to estimates, the removal of all primary and secondary sanctions and resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, the release of all blocked Iranian properties and assets abroad, and finally, the approval of all these items in a binding Security Council resolution. It is worth noting that the approval of this resolution will turn all these agreements into binding international law and will create an important diplomatic victory for the nation of Iran.”

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Ilixtze@lemmy.ml on 08 Apr 07:22 next collapse

“The child-killing israeli regime” and the child-molesting american regime; two of a kind.

Congratulations to the country and people of Iran, I hope the imperialists don’t change their mind again.

ZMoney@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 07:24 collapse

Guaranteed that no sides will agree to anything over the next 2 weeks.

coyootje@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 07:49 collapse

I mean, both sides are still continuing to shoot at each other so I’d say the cease-fire has failed before it even started. The west is hoping the strait will be reopened and is basically only talking about the cease-fire and not how the attacks back and forth are still ongoing.

When I saw Iran’s statement last night it mostly read as them being snarky and sarcastic. I don’t understand how the news here seems to think it’s all solved now.

Casterial@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 08:14 collapse

Basically I don’t think the 10 point plan is why they did a ceasefire, I think it had to do with the strait and the uranium.

Hopefully both sides can actually negotiate WITHOUT Israel who was the cause of this.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 07:29 next collapse

(Iranian) controlled passage through the Strait of Hormuz
ending the war against all components of the Axis of Resistance
withdrawal of U.S. combat forces
payment of Iran’s damages
removal of all primary and secondary sanctions
release of all blocked Iranian properties and assets

That’s a big fuck you Trump from Iran. And apparently Trump had no better options than to accept!

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net on 08 Apr 07:55 next collapse

We kind of know how Trump sees international agreements. I very much doubt any such deal is actually going to last, especially with Israel really wanting to bomb Iran.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 08:10 collapse

Yes he will tear it up as soon as he is able to, but even accepting it for 14 days is a huge loss of face for him.
I also don’t think the situation will change to favor USA and Israel more even with a ceasefire, that allow them to restock and rethink their lack of a plan.

Trump is trying to push blame on NATO for not helping, seems to me he is preparing to TACO.

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net on 08 Apr 08:15 collapse

If the US leaves NATO, it would be even better. Seriously that would clean up a lot. Also the US bases in Germany are legally NATO bases, so they loose their biggest bomber base doing that.

gnutrino@programming.dev on 08 Apr 12:15 collapse

*According to Iran and even then they just say that he “has accepted these principles as the basis for negotiations”. AFAIK the only conditions the US had acknowledged is the opening of the strait.

This ain’t over yet and you (and the internet in general) really need to be less ready to swallow whole whatever Iran says just because they don’t like Trump either.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 18:08 collapse

You are right, but the way the news reported it, they made it seem that this was the agreement for now.
But yes this is just a framework for negotiations.

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net on 08 Apr 07:40 next collapse

Obama was black. It was therefore obvious that his Iran deal was worse then what Trump come up with /s

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 12:54 collapse

Than*

Witchfire@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 07:43 next collapse

In this plan, America is fundamentally committed to guaranteeing non-aggression, the continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz, the acceptance of enrichment, the lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions, the termination of all resolutions of the Security Council and the Board of Governors, the payment of Iran’s damages, the withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from the region, and the cessation of war on all fronts, including against the heroic Islamic Resistance of Lebanon.

The Fart of the Meal

TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr on 08 Apr 12:40 collapse

I don’t think this deal will last. At least until his next tantrum/market manipulation.

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world on 08 Apr 14:03 collapse

He helped the IRGC set up the world’s most valuable toll booth.

It only cost dozens of American lives, thousands of Iranian lives, several multimillion dollar aircraft, the depletion of all our interceptor missiles, and infrastructure and property damage all across the Middle East.

Now the hard-liners in the IRGC have pushed the politicians and clerics out of their way.

Totally worth it.

village604@adultswim.fan on 08 Apr 17:02 collapse

Don’t forget all the ecological damage and massive greenhouse gas releases.