MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
on 14 Feb 2026 12:33
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He was gonna teach her gun safety, with a loaded gun while not respecting trigger discipline or the laser rule?
I’d say that’s “a likely story” but the man’s a Trumper so it’s exactly the kind of stupid I’d expect.
Weirdfish@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 13:16
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Hadn’t heard “laser rule” before, I assume it’s the same as “don’t point it at anything you care about”.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
on 14 Feb 2026 13:18
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Yes.
Essentially always pretend there’s a deadly and infinite laser coming from the muzzle.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 13:45
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Just to add to this, it’s a more helpful way to think about it, because people hear “don’t point it at” and they think of “pointing” as an intentional action, like gesturing or taking aim, instead of thinking about all the small ways that a weapon moves as you reposition it or transition from one grip to another, and so on.
Rhaedas@fedia.io
on 14 Feb 2026 13:55
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Don't treat a gun like Tony Stark treats particle beams from an accelerator.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
on 14 Feb 2026 14:00
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Yup.
It makes you think about not just where you point it, but everything it might “slice” as you handle it.
Or even how you set it down, or move around one sitting on a table.
A pretty good analogy. I’ve been taught that the gun is always loaded and ready to go unless it’s fully disassembled. Only exception is when you personally checked that it is not and the gun haven’t left your hands after checking it. And even then you don’t point it to anything you don’t want a hole in.
And the same rule applies no matter the type of gun you’re holding. A bb-gun, .22 or .308, pistol or long barrel or whatever, they are all always loaded.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 18:31
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While this is accurate and true, the laser rule, for the reasons described above, helps people to really visualize the danger created by a weapon as it moves around. Just saying “The gun is always loaded” isn’t enough. Too many people see this as simply a skill challenge, like “Well of course I’m not going to accidentally pull the trigger, I’m too good for that.”
I guess to put it another way, just thinking of the gun as always loaded isn’t enough, because at some point in the process of operating a firearm you inevitably have to do things with it while it’s loaded. So you have to teach people how to safely interact with a loaded firearm. The “always loaded” rule is really just affirming that whatever you would do with a loaded firearm, you do with every firearm.
A slightly different way to think it I guess. I’ve been also learned that intentionally pulling a trigger is not the only way to fire a gun. There’s always a possibilty for the mechanism to trigger if you accidentally bump the gun or drop it or trigger guard can get tangled with something or whatever, so the ‘laser pointer’ part is sort of included in that as you need to be aware at all times where the gun is pointing and how you move around and interact with it.
And it obviously applies to things like chambering a bullet, removing clip from the gun and so on. I’ve personally seen a .22lr pistol to fire when slide was released on reloading, it was a old gun with really dirty mechanism so just the bump from the slide hitting the frame of the gun was enough to trigger it.
But no matter what ever way or analogy you’ve been thaught to work with guns, proper handling does not kill or injure anyone, specially not in your living room.
OwOarchist@pawb.social
on 15 Feb 2026 09:58
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There’s always a possibilty for the mechanism to trigger if you accidentally bump the gun
Ah, a Sig owner, I see.
meco03211@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 14:05
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You forgot about the like half liter of wine he had.
frongt@lemmy.zip
on 14 Feb 2026 15:04
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After drinking, and right before leaving for the airport.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 16:05
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She did teach her gun safety. When not operated safely, guns can kill your daughter.
blattrules@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 16:15
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Yeah, stupid group of people can’t even do the thing they care most about correctly.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
on 14 Feb 2026 13:12
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Wow, that’s shameful and disgusting.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
on 14 Feb 2026 13:13
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Yeah, SHE’S the one with Trump Derangement Syndrome.
bufalo1973@piefed.social
on 14 Feb 2026 13:16
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I get that it was not intentional… but it’s still homicide (I guess; in Spain it’s that way if it was an accident).
TheRealKuni@piefed.social
on 14 Feb 2026 13:21
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If it truly weren’t intentional (which it probably was, a Glock doesn’t just “go off” for no reason, as I understand), it would still be considered “manslaughter” here. He should’ve been indicted. This is insanity.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol
on 14 Feb 2026 14:32
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TheRealKuni@piefed.social
on 14 Feb 2026 14:39
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As someone who absolutely loved Archer, I have to recommend Hit-Monkey.
Now, I know people are sick of Marvel, but Hit-Monkey is BARELY Marvel. Especially season 1.
It’s animated by Floyd County Productions, same people who did Archer, and as for the plot, imagine that Archer were an assassin instead of a spy and that he were voiced by Jason Sudeikis instead of H Jon Benjamin and that he ends up as a ghost mentor for a monkey.
It’s fantastic. I binged the whole thing in two days this past week.
null@piefed.nullspace.lol
on 14 Feb 2026 14:43
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I haven’t heard of this, will definitely check it out!
“'memba”, or “remember that thing” moments are when they shoe horn cameos from other franchise characters or into the show, or the writers add dialogue referencing events in the universe and the audience goes “yes! I know that character” or “hey, I know that other show!”. Disney’s star wars is notoriously bad at it, and so is the MCU to a slightly lesser degree. It’s off putting and very low-brow, breaking the flow of a plot by introducing a very obvious fan service element.
If you are not misinterpreting it, I’m glad to hear.
TheRealKuni@piefed.social
on 16 Feb 2026 05:01
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So there are other super-powered characters who show up, but none that I recognized. They all seem appropriate to the show. They could be from some Marvel comic, but they’re very much there to be part of this story.
zikzak025@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 13:25
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That’s normally what the charge of “manslaughter” is supposed to be used for in the courts. Murder would be with intent, manslaughter is any other act with deadly consequence.
Why that didn’t happen in this case is beyond me.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 13:53
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There’s a whole list of charges below murder. Even “criminal negligence” FFS. That he wasn’t charged with something is ridiculous.
jaennaet@sopuli.xyz
on 14 Feb 2026 18:57
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There’s absolutely zero chance it wasn’t intentional.
Dude was drunk and angry and shot her, and then immediately afterwards started feeling regret so he did what literally all reich-wingers do and refused to take responsibility for what he did
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 19:27
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It’s impossible for this to be unintentional, or it’s so negligent that there’s no difference. Guns do not just go off, and Glocks require an intentional trigger pull.
wuffah@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 13:27
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This reads like it never even went to trial. The article says a jury “failed to indict” and the man was “never charged”.
I’m assuming it was a grand jury and somehow a bare majority or jurors couldn’t find cause to charge the man (who—at minimum—pointed a gun at his daughter’s chest and pulled the trigger) with any crime whatsoever.
Not a single charge or trial?
How?
credo@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 14:03
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Texas
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 16:03
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Also she was Anti-Trump. And a woman. So it’s okay.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
on 14 Feb 2026 16:19
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They don’t consider it a crime if they don’t believe the victim is a person.
Unironically a foundational tenant of the entire country.
Some of us have just done a better job of moving past it. (Dems enabled Gaza genocide so I’m not talking about Dems, at least not the politicians. I mean some individuals.)
redlemace@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 20:04
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Yes. Totally on her. /s
If she had not been born yet, then things would have been a lot different. ‘dad’ had been on death-row before midnight
meco03211@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 14:04
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Grand jury. What little I’ve read keeps saying they tried for manslaughter. Also from what I’ve read, based on the dad’s own statements he’s clearly guilty of a number of crimes that aren’t manslaughter. So it’s possible there’s some nazi-esque camaraderie here and the prosecutor intentionally flopped to get no charges. I’m not exactly sure how grand juries work on that front. Could they have tried for a lower level charge, then once the rest of the investigation uncovers things they just bump the charge up to the appropriate level of would they need to reconvene a grand jury? Could the grand jury have considered multiple levels of charges?
chiliedogg@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 15:06
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Grand juries are different than trial juries in Texas. They’re nominated “respectable” members of society that serve terms for multiple months. It’s remnants of Jim Crow that are alive and well, where rich white guys decide who gets prosecuted for what.
And Texas made it even worse a few years back. In 2008, a white guy called 911 because police his neighbor’s house was being robbed. He indicated that the neighbor’s were not home, and also that he was gonna shoot the burglars. The dispatch told him over a dozen times not to interfere, and he repeatedly said he would shoot them. As plainclothes police were arriving on scene, dispatch told him they were arriving, but he went ahead and shot the 2 unarmed burglars in the back while.they were fleeing, killing both. They happened to be unarmed.
The grand jury refused to indict him for a crime, but the familes sued the murderer in civil court and won.
So Texas made a law that if someone is not convicted of a felony for a gun crime they can’t be sued in civil court over it.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 15:43
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So Texas made a law that if someone is not found convicted of a felony for a gun crime they can’t be sued in civil court over it.
This is how you get vigilantes.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 19:11
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That’s the idea.
They openly allowed armed civilian militias like the “Minutemen” and “United Constitutional Patriots” to detain and hold migrants at gunpoint until CBP arrived.
Hell - in the 80s a militia group calling itself the “Civiliian Military Assistant” was actually making border raids into Mexico to shoot on migrants before they crossed the border.
wanderingmagus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Feb 2026 09:12
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You know, these folks keep worrying about the cartels and the Black Panthers. And the more I read, the more I wish that what they feared most actually came to pass, and Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generación actually rolled a few APCs into their neighborhoods and started a scorched earth campaign or three.
SaraTonin@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 16:56
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How much do we want to bet that the law wouldn’t apply if the shooter was black?
Brummbaer@pawb.social
on 14 Feb 2026 17:50
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I knew that the US justice system was bad, but I at least hoped that some crimes would have to be trialed in court.
Thanks for the explanation.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 17:24
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Grand jury indictments are required for felony charges to make it to trial, including felonies like murder/involuntary manslaughter.
Indictments are a very low bar (probable cause). In this case, it seems clear to me from everyone’s accounts that, at minimum, this was a reckless homicide where the mishandling of a firearm resulted in someone’s death, and therefore probable cause existed to indict, so this is very clearly a poor decision on the jury’s part if the charge was manslaughter. I’m not sure if they tried to seek an indictment for involuntary manslaughter or murder though. Murder is a higher bar.
However this isn’t necessarily a done deal. Double jeopardy does not apply to grand juries’ “no bill” (i.e. the decision not to indict), so the prosecutor can gather more evidence or plan a different approach and try again. If, for example, they attempted to get an indictment for murder and failed, they could try again for manslaughter. This is really only news if the prosecution decides to stop trying to indict.
OwOarchist@pawb.social
on 15 Feb 2026 09:49
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It could also be a case of a prosecutor who agrees with the shooter. (A right-wing extremist prosecutor, who has ever heard of such a thing?)
In that case, the prosecutor might feel pressured to bring the case before a grand jury, just to make it look like he’s doing his job. But he could deliberately throw the case, neglect to mention important evidence, etc, etc, and fail to get an indictment. That way, he gets to shut down the prosecution without making it look like it was his choice. Since grand jury proceedings are sealed, nobody would be able to know he deliberately sandbagged and failed on purpose. Then he gets to make a public statement about how he tried, but the grand jury said no, so his hands are tied.
So it could be a way for a malicious prosecutor to kill/bury the case without looking like he’s deliberately letting a murderer go free.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 14:53
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True, but never blame malice when incompetence will suffice.
morriscox@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 16:54
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Those in tech support wonder sometimes.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 17:17
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Incompetent is common, even the default. Half of people are dumber and less competent than the average person, and people who are incompetent tend to over estimate their competence at the same time.
Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca
on 14 Feb 2026 19:19
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Hey look how about some sympathy for the gun owner here? He accidentally pointed a loaded weapon at a loved one while having a heated argument, and the gun felt scared and accidentally went off! By accident!
Really, that poor gun owner might be scared to point a loaded weapon at a loved one again! Don’t victim blame the poor owner!
“To shoot her through the chest whilst she was standing would have required him to have been pointing the gun at his daughter, without checking for bullets, and pulling the trigger,” the coroner said. “I find these actions to be reckless.”
Mmhmm.
swicano@programming.dev
on 14 Feb 2026 13:55
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Ahhh, so “Honor killings” are now acceptable in the US.
funkajunk@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 14:03
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Always have been
null@piefed.nullspace.lol
on 14 Feb 2026 14:30
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What’s another one?
datavoid@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 17:47
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BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 18:39
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Most lynching victims were have been (apparently people in the US are still lynching) accused of either murder or rape. So have a look at this NSFL Wikipedia article and look at the accusations en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_lynching_victims_in_th…
In some cases, especially closer to the present, lynchers have been prosecuted and sentenced, but it a lot of situations this wasn’t the case.
Snowclone@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 22:09
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Research done by anti-lynching groups of that time period found that the majority of lynching victimes were owed money by white folks, usually as sharecroppers, and expected to be paid said money.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
on 14 Feb 2026 14:56
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Then he ought to be put down, for his daughter’s honor.
HubertManne@piefed.social
on 14 Feb 2026 14:00
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“Kris reportedly moved to the United States when his daughter was still a child, and had previously been to rehab for alcohol addiction. He allegedly confessed to relapsing on the day of the shooting and drinking roughly two cups of white wine.”
apparently its only bad when they send murders and rapists and they do not support trump or are part of his administration.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 16:41
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Ah yes, the “good” kind of immigrant…
fox2263@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 14:05
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Er….how? Not even a little charge??
cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de
on 14 Feb 2026 14:21
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“To shoot her through the chest whilst she was standing would have required him to have been pointing the gun at his daughter, without checking for bullets, and pulling the trigger,” the coroner said. “I find these actions to be reckless.”
Whoopsies! I usually make sure not to pull the trigger when casually pointing a loaded gun at a family member’s chest. But that’s just me being overly cautious.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
on 14 Feb 2026 14:59
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I am baffled at how this doesn’t constitute premeditated murder. They had some argument and then guy’s like “know what? I know what I’m gonna do.” And did it. What freaking horror.
Yeah, well, Jesus will render unto you what is Jesus’ forgiveness. Until then, Caesar will render unto you a prison sentence.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 16:02
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I just accidentally beat my daughter to death. The bat just went off on it’s own. I was just showing her the bat then all of a sudden she was bludgeoned to death. I have no idea what happened!
classic@fedia.io
on 14 Feb 2026 17:29
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not your fault. she was probably just too observant
magikmw@piefed.social
on 15 Feb 2026 14:58
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Obviously a SIG baseball bat.
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 18:21
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Well glocks don’t have safeties and require you to pull the trigger to disassemble. Negligent discharges when trying to show them off to people absolutely do happen, and with how you have to hold the gun to take it apart the “don’t point at anything you don’t wish to shoot” rule gets overlooked a lot.
They’re the default “modern” handgun but I’ve always said they are a terrible design.
OwOarchist@pawb.social
on 15 Feb 2026 09:56
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Finally, a fellow Glock hater!
Two things that should be completely unacceptable in a modern firearm:
Having no safety mechanism whatsoever. (Trigger dingus doesn’t count.)
Requiring a trigger pull (or even putting your finger inside the trigger guard) for any other reason than intending to fire a shot.
And there are so many excellent modern pistols out there that don’t break these two rules. Pistols that do everything a Glock can do, but without these glaring safety issues. So why is the Glock still the ‘default’ choice? It’s especially egregious to see it as a recommendation to novice shooters. Dealing with these safety issues should require an expert. Putting a gun with these issues into the hands of a new shooter is just asking for trouble.
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 10:10
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A safety exists to prevent human error. Not touching the trigger doesn’t solve this.
The primary argument of “you might forget to disengage it in the heat of the moment” is complete bullshit. If you can’t reliably disengage a safety you can’t reliably not pull the trigger during a draw, shooting yourself in the femoral artery or hand. Either you practice your draw until it’s muscle memory or you don’t, removing safety features to simplify the process doesn’t make you safer.
OwOarchist@pawb.social
on 15 Feb 2026 19:53
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The primary argument of “you might forget to disengage it in the heat of the moment” is complete bullshit.
Even if you are in that (rather misguided) camp, there are better alternatives. Specifically, a grip safety. Safety automatically disengaged as long as you’re holding the gun properly. Can’t ‘forget’ to do that!
And, yes, there are good, modern designs that use grip safeties. The Springfield XD line, for example. (Those models also require a trigger pull for disassembly, though. Is it that hard to include some kind of decocker?)
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2026 05:02
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I’m a fan of grip safeties but I still want some form of manual switch I can use to render the gun safe. I honestly think that the FN Five seveN is the best solution but standard 1911 thumb safety (or an HK version with decocker) does the job just fine.
modernangel@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 14:26
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“Texas fash bootlicker faces no charges for disposing of woke foreigner who happened to be his daughter”
magnetosphere@fedia.io
on 14 Feb 2026 15:48
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My hope is that he will feel tremendous guilt for the rest of his life, and that his rationalizations might fool others, but never him.
yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Feb 2026 16:52
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He’s literally a remorseless psychopath.
chaogomu@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 17:41
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He had told her he wouldn’t mind if she was raped, because he had two other daughters.
So no, he’ll feel no guilt for murdering his daughter.
magnetosphere@fedia.io
on 14 Feb 2026 18:07
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Charming fellow
redlemace@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 20:15
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he wouldn’t mind if she was raped
that I don’t get at all! As soon as I know someone even thinks of raping mine, I know which of my axes will be in my hand
AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2026 04:24
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People like this tend to this of the women in their life (wives, daughters etc.) as objects they own. When an object is broken and cannot be fixed, you throw it away — especially if you have spares.
It’s only speculation, but it fits the pattern. I have had the misfortune of knowing multiple disgusting assholes like this guy
venusaur@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 18:14
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Well he’s an alcoholic so his life was probably already full of regrets and numbing the pain.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 19:22
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Cool. My hope is the boyfriend disagrees with this outcome.
aeration1217@lemmy.org
on 14 Feb 2026 16:06
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hopefully this piece of shit has a resurgence with his drinking problem that will lead to an ugly demise. fuck you and all your failures Texas
queermunist@lemmy.ml
on 14 Feb 2026 16:11
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Different circumstances obviously, but parallels to Renée Good; women who talk back get shot.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 18:20
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Well, if somebody threatens you, you should probably do something about that. As Megan and Kelly of The Devil Said Jump sings in “make me buy a gun” m.youtube.com/watch?v=VEVk4I_htWE
[Chorus]
These motherfuckers are gonna make me buy a gun
I’m done with stressin’
Get my Smith and Wesson, on God
[Verse 1]
They come for my rights
‘Cause they can’t take my light
And they hate me for shining so bright
They come with their anger
But darlin’, they ain’t never met mine
[Verse 2]
They’re sorely mistaken if they thought
I’d lay down and die
Damn cowards had better come right for
The fight of their lives
[Chorus]
‘Cause these motherfuckers are gonna make me buy a gun
Sore losers restarted a fight
That we’ve already won
queermunist@lemmy.ml
on 14 Feb 2026 19:26
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Alex Pretti bought a gun. They disarmed him and then killed him.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 19:32
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Yes, I once bought a vehicle from a little old lady who never used it. What’s the point in buying something for then to never use it?
Pretti had the background to expect lawful and reasonable behavior from the authorities. What Pretti then experienced was all but that. Now people should know better.
queermunist@lemmy.ml
on 14 Feb 2026 22:25
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I think Pretti showed us that concealed carry is just a way to get killed. The Panthers had it right - open carry armed patrols.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 22:41
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I don’t really know what Pretti showed us. That compassion getting in the way of fascists gets you killed?
I think on a tactical level the Panthers may be doing it right, but on the other hand, if you’re demonstrably armed, then you’re a target. If you knew that in a certain area there’s black panthers armed with small arms, then you’d either stay away or “dress for the part” by rolling in an APC, or identify the black panthers and pick them up when they’re not standing on a street corner with a ready semiauto 12ga.
Something we may take away from Alex Pretti is that you need to go for the oppressors first, and help the oppressed second. But what we can take away from both panthers and Pretti is, don’t do it alone, there’s strength in numbers.
queermunist@lemmy.ml
on 14 Feb 2026 23:11
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Pretti showed us that you don’t have to be demonstrably armed to be a target, so why bother with concealment? They target people for talking back, for filming them, for posting negatively about them on the internet. They’re looking for reasons to target us.
If you don’t want to be a target, the only real option is to stay home.
Except, once they run out of targets in the streets, they’ll come for us in our houses next. Fascists don’t stop, they’re always looking for new enemies to target. We’re all going to be targets eventually, our choice is when - now, or later?
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz
on 14 Feb 2026 17:46
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That’s because MURDER is PRO LIFE!
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 18:15
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Supposedly an accidental shooting according to the article.
But sounds fishy to me, and yes, he should be in prison whether it was accidental or not. It was either a death due to deadly negligence or he’s lying and murdered her, both of which should merit jail time.
Unfortunately guns are extra-legal here. The law or the people in most US cities doesn’t care if the shooting was supposedly accidental.
No, no, you don’t get it - he’s admitted that he was under the influence of alcohol while handling the weapon (which he was showing off to his famously anti-gun daughter in the basement into which she was not allowed prior), so it means he’s off the hook, it was basically an act of God! After all, how can we expect to punish people for what they’re doing while drunk, right?
cley_faye@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 23:02
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At this point, it’s a suicide really.
/J
D_C@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 18:19
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Abort a dead baby? “That’s a life sentence, you filthy murdering bitch!”
Shoot daughter for Donvict Drumpf? “There’s not enough evidence to prove it was murder. We are just going to let him get away with it!”
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Feb 2026 18:23
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Guns have more rights than women in this country.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 18:32
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I’ve been rewatching Bojack Horseman, and there’s an episode where Diane convinces the state to pass common-sense gun legislation by making it “in” for women to carry guns. The eventually leads to the line, “I can’t believe this country hates women more than it loves guns,” to which the character with her replies, “really?”
I think that moment is, unfortunately, rather poignant.
axexrx@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 20:22
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Basically Reagan (when he was governor of California) vs the black Panthers
masta_chief@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2026 21:20
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Almost, she becomes a fan of guns after trying one and then women across the country all get guns to protect themselves from men. Men freak out and ban all guns in the US. But still one of my favorite lines.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Feb 2026 01:29
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Seems like women should be identifying with AR/15 as their pronouns
Chisav@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 19:02
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The people that were on that jury are human fecal matter.
JillSteinsPuckeredAnus@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 21:27
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Lots of countries have small towns, where that doesn’t mean it’s fine to shoot a daughter. It’s an international scandal now, so it’s not like they managed to keep it quiet. Everyone, everywhere, can see the disfunction.
village604@adultswim.fan
on 15 Feb 2026 15:05
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It’s not like it matters. Being international news isn’t going to suddenly make the good ol boys do the right thing.
Lots of eyes actually do have a way of getting these kinds of cases.the attention they need; remember Ahmaud Arbery? Good ol’ boys walked away uncharged until a local news report went viral 2 months later.
But the folks above those good ol boys suddenly have a spot light on them, so feel pressured to do the right thing. They get ask by those above them why are they failing.
village604@adultswim.fan
on 15 Feb 2026 19:47
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I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one.
Snowclone@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 22:03
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they really don’t care, man. talk to some boomers sometimes they desperately need to be forced into retirement and group homes.
While true, lead exposure is strongly correlated with age.
Formfiller@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 20:53
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Texas is a shithole.
susi7802@sopuli.xyz
on 14 Feb 2026 20:54
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Jesus H. Christ, hot damn.
JillSteinsPuckeredAnus@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 21:26
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Did you know that the H stands for Harold.
ie. Hark the Harold’s angels sing
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml
on 14 Feb 2026 21:26
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I didn’t kill her, the bullet and impact did.
zbyte64@awful.systems
on 15 Feb 2026 15:43
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And maybe the half bottle of wine I drank. But I definitely didn’t do it on purpose.
… Yes I said I wouldn’t mind if something terrible happened to her, but that isn’t a motive.
Buffalox@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 22:05
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Lawless shithole country.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2026 22:06
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“As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang,” Kris allegedly said. “I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell.” WTF!!! It proves he pointed the gun at his daughter, which is a big fucking NO NO! Worse yet, the damn thing was locked and loaded. Fuck him, charge him with murder.
Tamo240@programming.dev
on 14 Feb 2026 22:34
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Exactly this. I was taught not to point a gun at anything I don’t intend to destroy, even if I believe it not to be loaded.
Anything less than that is negligent manslaughter at the least if the gun ‘goes off’ ‘by accident’, because you should never be in that situation.
SupraMario@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 00:00
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This is just an excuse, dude murdered his daughter and is trying to blame it on the gun. Guns don’t load themselves, and they don’t magically go off…
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
on 15 Feb 2026 01:32
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Remember, guns don’t kill people, people kill people
And sadly, the highest percentage is within a family.
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 15 Feb 2026 01:45
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There’s no excuse for it to not be murder, but the fact its not even manslaughter is a message.
elucubra@sopuli.xyz
on 15 Feb 2026 09:12
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Where I live, in Europe, you CAN own firearms. Long guns pretty easily, as they are considered hunting/sporting guns, including semi-auto assault rifles, albeit, with 3 round magazines. Buying or even 3D printing larger ones is trivial, but it’s a felony to have one near the gun (same range/car/house…).
Long gun licenses require a medical, which includes a basic psych eval.
Handguns require a stricter medical, with a more detailed psych eval, and a course which includes gun safety, and legislation, among other things.
Except for some rare exceptions (jewelers, judges, and other people that can objectively be considered a target for assault or retaliation) you cannot carry, open or otherwise, except to go to a range, or hunting ground, and the gun and munitions must be separated; guns in a case in the trunk, with the magazine and munitions in the front of the car.
I don’t get why there isn’t a reasonable license for guns in the US. There is for cars, no?
reddit_sux@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2026 10:48
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mushroommunk@lemmy.today
on 15 Feb 2026 16:04
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“reasonable license for cars” lol no. I mean we need a license to drive, but it’s so stupidly easy in so many places and you can fail so many times and still get it. We basically test if the person has a pulse before letting them drive. And based on the driving changes I’ve seen since covid I’m thinking even the pulse has become optional
Interesting. Here the license has gotten steadily harder to get. I’m sure there are connections: drivers schools, traffic authority, grift, etc, but the fact is that it’s a bit of a hurdle for many.
I’m gonna guess there’s no significant hurdle to getting a psych eval in your European country. No expensive medical bill, no worrying about time off from work to get it.
We hyperfocussed so much on that “shall not be infringed” part that we managed to give up our health and the best 40 years of our lives to the machine.
andros_rex@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2026 04:07
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Also assuming that mental health care even exists in your state…. Oklahoma doesn’t even have providers to get that expensive evaluation from…
Prices for these types of exams are fixed, and not particularly expensive. You aren’t getting therapy, you are being screened for obvious things. Usually less than 30 min. That time does let you find the glaring stuff.
He did it intentionally not on accident. They’re trusting the murderer in the m urder case.
Wataba@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Feb 2026 01:06
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Guess it’s time for another accidental shooting, huh.
OwOarchist@pawb.social
on 15 Feb 2026 09:44
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Luigi should try this defense.
“I just wanted to show him my cool gun, but then it went off, all on its own. Complete accident!”
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Feb 2026 01:27
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Is the father even a citizen?
Hello ICE, I think I found one of those illegals 😏
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
on 15 Feb 2026 01:31
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A dangerous criminal too, the kind they promised they’d go after
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
on 15 Feb 2026 01:31
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Even when people kill by accident, they’re usually charged with something!
RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org
on 15 Feb 2026 10:14
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Oscar Pistorius was charged and convicted.
This case exposes USA as a bigger shit-hole than fucking South Africa. That is really saying something!
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
on 15 Feb 2026 15:12
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Yet again we see that for country that is insanely in love with guns, they have no idea how to handle guns safely.
I will recap the basics of gun safety for the folks in the back:
Don’t pick up a gun unless you are going to use it and know how to use it safely.
The gun is loaded, on a hair trigger and the safety is off.
Do not point the gun at anything you don’t intend to kill or destroy.
Finger out of the trigger guard.
THE GUN IS FUCKING LOADED.
sureshot0@discuss.online
on 15 Feb 2026 15:34
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Yeah that’s how you know he killed her on purpose
It’s so strange to me, the people that the public will hold accountable and the people who get a pass
Sometimes if I’m facing the wrong way in line at the grocery store or if I get randomly distracted by something, an old person or a woman will accost me, literally screaming and crying, complete with snot bubbles, because I’ve made some kind of basic and understandable error. I pressed the wrong button, I didn’t see someone in line so I cut in front of them, I forgot to hold the elevator door.
This guy shoots his daughter and people are saying ridiculous shit, assuming that he’s stupid or assuming that he’s going to snap out of it one day. He can’t just be a murderer. People are frothing at the mouth to make excuses for people like this.
zbyte64@awful.systems
on 15 Feb 2026 15:38
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Well that and the Father saying he wouldn’t feel bad if something terrible happened to her because he has two better behaved daughters.
sureshot0@discuss.online
on 15 Feb 2026 15:45
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Unfortunately I’ve heard statements like this before.
To them, they didn’t so much “kill” her, they “cured her terminal TDS”.
What’s really scary is that I’m sure that this “father” isn’t the only one who thinks this way. I worry that there’s a lot of other “fathers” that would hurt their own flesh and blood because they differ politically. This is the reach of that child-fuckers cult.
Edit to add, from the article:
Although a jury declined to indict Kris and he faced no charges in relation to his daughter’s death
Well there it is. White dude in Texas shoots his daughter over TDS, and a"Jury of his peers" looks the other way.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2026 03:50
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Honour killings are legal in America now. No surprise from Texas, the centre of American terrorists
___qwertz___@feddit.org
on 16 Feb 2026 06:57
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Article reads more like a typical redneck American trying to convince someone from another country that their gun legislation is reasonable, while proving it is not.
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only corporate media is to blame
Reported.
huh?
He was gonna teach her gun safety, with a loaded gun while not respecting trigger discipline or the laser rule?
I’d say that’s “a likely story” but the man’s a Trumper so it’s exactly the kind of stupid I’d expect.
Hadn’t heard “laser rule” before, I assume it’s the same as “don’t point it at anything you care about”.
Yes.
Essentially always pretend there’s a deadly and infinite laser coming from the muzzle.
Just to add to this, it’s a more helpful way to think about it, because people hear “don’t point it at” and they think of “pointing” as an intentional action, like gesturing or taking aim, instead of thinking about all the small ways that a weapon moves as you reposition it or transition from one grip to another, and so on.
Don't treat a gun like Tony Stark treats particle beams from an accelerator.
Yup.
It makes you think about not just where you point it, but everything it might “slice” as you handle it.
Or even how you set it down, or move around one sitting on a table.
A pretty good analogy. I’ve been taught that the gun is always loaded and ready to go unless it’s fully disassembled. Only exception is when you personally checked that it is not and the gun haven’t left your hands after checking it. And even then you don’t point it to anything you don’t want a hole in.
And the same rule applies no matter the type of gun you’re holding. A bb-gun, .22 or .308, pistol or long barrel or whatever, they are all always loaded.
While this is accurate and true, the laser rule, for the reasons described above, helps people to really visualize the danger created by a weapon as it moves around. Just saying “The gun is always loaded” isn’t enough. Too many people see this as simply a skill challenge, like “Well of course I’m not going to accidentally pull the trigger, I’m too good for that.”
I guess to put it another way, just thinking of the gun as always loaded isn’t enough, because at some point in the process of operating a firearm you inevitably have to do things with it while it’s loaded. So you have to teach people how to safely interact with a loaded firearm. The “always loaded” rule is really just affirming that whatever you would do with a loaded firearm, you do with every firearm.
A slightly different way to think it I guess. I’ve been also learned that intentionally pulling a trigger is not the only way to fire a gun. There’s always a possibilty for the mechanism to trigger if you accidentally bump the gun or drop it or trigger guard can get tangled with something or whatever, so the ‘laser pointer’ part is sort of included in that as you need to be aware at all times where the gun is pointing and how you move around and interact with it.
And it obviously applies to things like chambering a bullet, removing clip from the gun and so on. I’ve personally seen a .22lr pistol to fire when slide was released on reloading, it was a old gun with really dirty mechanism so just the bump from the slide hitting the frame of the gun was enough to trigger it.
But no matter what ever way or analogy you’ve been thaught to work with guns, proper handling does not kill or injure anyone, specially not in your living room.
Ah, a Sig owner, I see.
You forgot about the like half liter of wine he had.
After drinking, and right before leaving for the airport.
She did teach her gun safety. When not operated safely, guns can kill your daughter.
Yeah, stupid group of people can’t even do the thing they care most about correctly.
Wow, that’s shameful and disgusting.
Yeah, SHE’S the one with Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I get that it was not intentional… but it’s still homicide (I guess; in Spain it’s that way if it was an accident).
If it truly weren’t intentional (which it probably was, a Glock doesn’t just “go off” for no reason, as I understand), it would still be considered “manslaughter” here. He should’ve been indicted. This is insanity.
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As someone who absolutely loved Archer, I have to recommend Hit-Monkey.
Now, I know people are sick of Marvel, but Hit-Monkey is BARELY Marvel. Especially season 1.
It’s animated by Floyd County Productions, same people who did Archer, and as for the plot, imagine that Archer were an assassin instead of a spy and that he were voiced by Jason Sudeikis instead of H Jon Benjamin and that he ends up as a ghost mentor for a monkey.
It’s fantastic. I binged the whole thing in two days this past week.
I haven’t heard of this, will definitely check it out!
Is it full of “'memba” moments like the rest of the mcu?
Nope. Not even a little, unless I’m misinterpreting what you mean.
“'memba”, or “remember that thing” moments are when they shoe horn cameos from other franchise characters or into the show, or the writers add dialogue referencing events in the universe and the audience goes “yes! I know that character” or “hey, I know that other show!”. Disney’s star wars is notoriously bad at it, and so is the MCU to a slightly lesser degree. It’s off putting and very low-brow, breaking the flow of a plot by introducing a very obvious fan service element.
If you are not misinterpreting it, I’m glad to hear.
So there are other super-powered characters who show up, but none that I recognized. They all seem appropriate to the show. They could be from some Marvel comic, but they’re very much there to be part of this story.
That’s normally what the charge of “manslaughter” is supposed to be used for in the courts. Murder would be with intent, manslaughter is any other act with deadly consequence.
Why that didn’t happen in this case is beyond me.
There’s a whole list of charges below murder. Even “criminal negligence” FFS. That he wasn’t charged with something is ridiculous.
There’s absolutely zero chance it wasn’t intentional.
Dude was drunk and angry and shot her, and then immediately afterwards started feeling regret so he did what literally all reich-wingers do and refused to take responsibility for what he did
It’s impossible for this to be unintentional, or it’s so negligent that there’s no difference. Guns do not just go off, and Glocks require an intentional trigger pull.
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This reads like it never even went to trial. The article says a jury “failed to indict” and the man was “never charged”.
I’m assuming it was a grand jury and somehow a bare majority or jurors couldn’t find cause to charge the man (who—at minimum—pointed a gun at his daughter’s chest and pulled the trigger) with any crime whatsoever.
Not a single charge or trial?
How?
Texas
Also she was Anti-Trump. And a woman. So it’s okay.
They don’t consider it a crime if they don’t believe the victim is a person.
Unironically a foundational tenant of the entire country.
Some of us have just done a better job of moving past it. (Dems enabled Gaza genocide so I’m not talking about Dems, at least not the politicians. I mean some individuals.)
Yes. Totally on her. /s If she had not been born yet, then things would have been a lot different. ‘dad’ had been on death-row before midnight
Grand jury. What little I’ve read keeps saying they tried for manslaughter. Also from what I’ve read, based on the dad’s own statements he’s clearly guilty of a number of crimes that aren’t manslaughter. So it’s possible there’s some nazi-esque camaraderie here and the prosecutor intentionally flopped to get no charges. I’m not exactly sure how grand juries work on that front. Could they have tried for a lower level charge, then once the rest of the investigation uncovers things they just bump the charge up to the appropriate level of would they need to reconvene a grand jury? Could the grand jury have considered multiple levels of charges?
Grand juries are different than trial juries in Texas. They’re nominated “respectable” members of society that serve terms for multiple months. It’s remnants of Jim Crow that are alive and well, where rich white guys decide who gets prosecuted for what.
And Texas made it even worse a few years back. In 2008, a white guy called 911 because police his neighbor’s house was being robbed. He indicated that the neighbor’s were not home, and also that he was gonna shoot the burglars. The dispatch told him over a dozen times not to interfere, and he repeatedly said he would shoot them. As plainclothes police were arriving on scene, dispatch told him they were arriving, but he went ahead and shot the 2 unarmed burglars in the back while.they were fleeing, killing both. They happened to be unarmed.
The grand jury refused to indict him for a crime, but the familes sued the murderer in civil court and won.
So Texas made a law that if someone is not convicted of a felony for a gun crime they can’t be sued in civil court over it.
This is how you get vigilantes.
That’s the idea.
They openly allowed armed civilian militias like the “Minutemen” and “United Constitutional Patriots” to detain and hold migrants at gunpoint until CBP arrived.
Hell - in the 80s a militia group calling itself the “Civiliian Military Assistant” was actually making border raids into Mexico to shoot on migrants before they crossed the border.
You know, these folks keep worrying about the cartels and the Black Panthers. And the more I read, the more I wish that what they feared most actually came to pass, and Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generación actually rolled a few APCs into their neighborhoods and started a scorched earth campaign or three.
How much do we want to bet that the law wouldn’t apply if the shooter was black?
I knew that the US justice system was bad, but I at least hoped that some crimes would have to be trialed in court.
Thanks for the explanation.
Grand jury indictments are required for felony charges to make it to trial, including felonies like murder/involuntary manslaughter.
Indictments are a very low bar (probable cause). In this case, it seems clear to me from everyone’s accounts that, at minimum, this was a reckless homicide where the mishandling of a firearm resulted in someone’s death, and therefore probable cause existed to indict, so this is very clearly a poor decision on the jury’s part if the charge was manslaughter. I’m not sure if they tried to seek an indictment for involuntary manslaughter or murder though. Murder is a higher bar.
However this isn’t necessarily a done deal. Double jeopardy does not apply to grand juries’ “no bill” (i.e. the decision not to indict), so the prosecutor can gather more evidence or plan a different approach and try again. If, for example, they attempted to get an indictment for murder and failed, they could try again for manslaughter. This is really only news if the prosecution decides to stop trying to indict.
It could also be a case of a prosecutor who agrees with the shooter. (A right-wing extremist prosecutor, who has ever heard of such a thing?)
In that case, the prosecutor might feel pressured to bring the case before a grand jury, just to make it look like he’s doing his job. But he could deliberately throw the case, neglect to mention important evidence, etc, etc, and fail to get an indictment. That way, he gets to shut down the prosecution without making it look like it was his choice. Since grand jury proceedings are sealed, nobody would be able to know he deliberately sandbagged and failed on purpose. Then he gets to make a public statement about how he tried, but the grand jury said no, so his hands are tied.
So it could be a way for a malicious prosecutor to kill/bury the case without looking like he’s deliberately letting a murderer go free.
True, but never blame malice when incompetence will suffice.
Those in tech support wonder sometimes.
Incompetent is common, even the default. Half of people are dumber and less competent than the average person, and people who are incompetent tend to over estimate their competence at the same time.
So someone else also pointed out grand jury members in TX are appointed positions of “respectable” members of society.
Sadly, this just sounds like the Good Old Boy Network doing exactly what it’s supposed to do.
Some states do require a grand jury indictment if its a crime that carries capital punishment. Like murder.
Could be a case where they went for a specific murder charge, but weren’t able to support it.
Or the prosecutor was implicit
Complicit
“If a district attorney wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
I don’t think the district attorney tried to do more than the bare minimum for the indictment. I wonder if they purposely threw the case.
“Justice for Mama Cass!”
Hey look how about some sympathy for the gun owner here? He accidentally pointed a loaded weapon at a loved one while having a heated argument, and the gun felt scared and accidentally went off! By accident!
Really, that poor gun owner might be scared to point a loaded weapon at a loved one again! Don’t victim blame the poor owner!
Mmhmm.
Ahhh, so “Honor killings” are now acceptable in the US.
Always have been
What’s another one?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
Most lynching victims
werehave been (apparently people in the US are still lynching) accused of either murder or rape. So have a look at this NSFL Wikipedia article and look at the accusations en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_lynching_victims_in_th…In some cases, especially closer to the present, lynchers have been prosecuted and sentenced, but it a lot of situations this wasn’t the case.
Research done by anti-lynching groups of that time period found that the majority of lynching victimes were owed money by white folks, usually as sharecroppers, and expected to be paid said money.
Then he ought to be put down, for his daughter’s honor.
“Kris reportedly moved to the United States when his daughter was still a child, and had previously been to rehab for alcohol addiction. He allegedly confessed to relapsing on the day of the shooting and drinking roughly two cups of white wine.”
apparently its only bad when they send murders and rapists and they do not support trump or are part of his administration.
Ah yes, the “good” kind of immigrant…
Er….how? Not even a little charge??
Whoopsies! I usually make sure not to pull the trigger when casually pointing a loaded gun at a family member’s chest. But that’s just me being overly cautious.
I am baffled at how this doesn’t constitute premeditated murder. They had some argument and then guy’s like “know what? I know what I’m gonna do.” And did it. What freaking horror.
You missed the part where the guy said he didn’t mean to do that and he’s sorry.
“Jesus says to forgive…”
That is the crux of Christianity and the crutch of Christian morality.
Yeah, well, Jesus will render unto you what is Jesus’ forgiveness. Until then, Caesar will render unto you a prison sentence.
I just accidentally beat my daughter to death. The bat just went off on it’s own. I was just showing her the bat then all of a sudden she was bludgeoned to death. I have no idea what happened!
not your fault. she was probably just too observant
Obviously a SIG baseball bat.
Well glocks don’t have safeties and require you to pull the trigger to disassemble. Negligent discharges when trying to show them off to people absolutely do happen, and with how you have to hold the gun to take it apart the “don’t point at anything you don’t wish to shoot” rule gets overlooked a lot.
They’re the default “modern” handgun but I’ve always said they are a terrible design.
Finally, a fellow Glock hater!
Two things that should be completely unacceptable in a modern firearm:
Having no safety mechanism whatsoever. (Trigger dingus doesn’t count.)
Requiring a trigger pull (or even putting your finger inside the trigger guard) for any other reason than intending to fire a shot.
And there are so many excellent modern pistols out there that don’t break these two rules. Pistols that do everything a Glock can do, but without these glaring safety issues. So why is the Glock still the ‘default’ choice? It’s especially egregious to see it as a recommendation to novice shooters. Dealing with these safety issues should require an expert. Putting a gun with these issues into the hands of a new shooter is just asking for trouble.
A safety exists to prevent human error. Not touching the trigger doesn’t solve this.
The primary argument of “you might forget to disengage it in the heat of the moment” is complete bullshit. If you can’t reliably disengage a safety you can’t reliably not pull the trigger during a draw, shooting yourself in the femoral artery or hand. Either you practice your draw until it’s muscle memory or you don’t, removing safety features to simplify the process doesn’t make you safer.
Even if you are in that (rather misguided) camp, there are better alternatives. Specifically, a grip safety. Safety automatically disengaged as long as you’re holding the gun properly. Can’t ‘forget’ to do that!
And, yes, there are good, modern designs that use grip safeties. The Springfield XD line, for example. (Those models also require a trigger pull for disassembly, though. Is it that hard to include some kind of decocker?)
I’m a fan of grip safeties but I still want some form of manual switch I can use to render the gun safe. I honestly think that the FN Five seveN is the best solution but standard 1911 thumb safety (or an HK version with decocker) does the job just fine.
“Texas fash bootlicker faces no charges for disposing of woke foreigner who happened to be his daughter”
My hope is that he will feel tremendous guilt for the rest of his life, and that his rationalizations might fool others, but never him.
He’s literally a remorseless psychopath.
He had told her he wouldn’t mind if she was raped, because he had two other daughters.
So no, he’ll feel no guilt for murdering his daughter.
Charming fellow
that I don’t get at all! As soon as I know someone even thinks of raping mine, I know which of my axes will be in my hand
People like this tend to this of the women in their life (wives, daughters etc.) as objects they own. When an object is broken and cannot be fixed, you throw it away — especially if you have spares.
It’s only speculation, but it fits the pattern. I have had the misfortune of knowing multiple disgusting assholes like this guy
Well he’s an alcoholic so his life was probably already full of regrets and numbing the pain.
Cool. My hope is the boyfriend disagrees with this outcome.
hopefully this piece of shit has a resurgence with his drinking problem that will lead to an ugly demise. fuck you and all your failures Texas
Different circumstances obviously, but parallels to Renée Good; women who talk back get shot.
Well, if somebody threatens you, you should probably do something about that. As Megan and Kelly of The Devil Said Jump sings in “make me buy a gun” m.youtube.com/watch?v=VEVk4I_htWE
Alex Pretti bought a gun. They disarmed him and then killed him.
Yes, I once bought a vehicle from a little old lady who never used it. What’s the point in buying something for then to never use it?
Pretti had the background to expect lawful and reasonable behavior from the authorities. What Pretti then experienced was all but that. Now people should know better.
I think Pretti showed us that concealed carry is just a way to get killed. The Panthers had it right - open carry armed patrols.
I don’t really know what Pretti showed us. That compassion getting in the way of fascists gets you killed?
I think on a tactical level the Panthers may be doing it right, but on the other hand, if you’re demonstrably armed, then you’re a target. If you knew that in a certain area there’s black panthers armed with small arms, then you’d either stay away or “dress for the part” by rolling in an APC, or identify the black panthers and pick them up when they’re not standing on a street corner with a ready semiauto 12ga.
Something we may take away from Alex Pretti is that you need to go for the oppressors first, and help the oppressed second. But what we can take away from both panthers and Pretti is, don’t do it alone, there’s strength in numbers.
Pretti showed us that you don’t have to be demonstrably armed to be a target, so why bother with concealment? They target people for talking back, for filming them, for posting negatively about them on the internet. They’re looking for reasons to target us.
If you don’t want to be a target, the only real option is to stay home.
Except, once they run out of targets in the streets, they’ll come for us in our houses next. Fascists don’t stop, they’re always looking for new enemies to target. We’re all going to be targets eventually, our choice is when - now, or later?
That’s because MURDER is PRO LIFE!
Supposedly an accidental shooting according to the article.
But sounds fishy to me, and yes, he should be in prison whether it was accidental or not. It was either a death due to deadly negligence or he’s lying and murdered her, both of which should merit jail time.
Unfortunately guns are extra-legal here. The law or the people in most US cities doesn’t care if the shooting was supposedly accidental.
No, no, you don’t get it - he’s admitted that he was under the influence of alcohol while handling the weapon (which he was showing off to his famously anti-gun daughter in the basement into which she was not allowed prior), so it means he’s off the hook, it was basically an act of God! After all, how can we expect to punish people for what they’re doing while drunk, right?
At this point, it’s a suicide really.
/J
Abort a dead baby? “That’s a life sentence, you filthy murdering bitch!”
Shoot daughter for Donvict Drumpf? “There’s not enough evidence to prove it was murder. We are just going to let him get away with it!”
Guns have more rights than women in this country.
guns don’t kill people, women kill people.
she killed herself by arguing with a man.
/s
#choosethebear
#LowHangingFruitRageBait
#IfThisMakesSomeoneMadTheyShouldn’tBeHere
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I’ve been rewatching Bojack Horseman, and there’s an episode where Diane convinces the state to pass common-sense gun legislation by making it “in” for women to carry guns. The eventually leads to the line, “I can’t believe this country hates women more than it loves guns,” to which the character with her replies, “really?”
I think that moment is, unfortunately, rather poignant.
Basically Reagan (when he was governor of California) vs the black Panthers
Almost, she becomes a fan of guns after trying one and then women across the country all get guns to protect themselves from men. Men freak out and ban all guns in the US. But still one of my favorite lines.
Seems like women should be identifying with AR/15 as their pronouns
The people that were on that jury are human fecal matter.
conservative mischief this.
Okay, but, even ruled an accident, why is this guy not up for manslaughter charges? Do I grossly misunderstand what manslaughter is?
This is definitely some smoking gun tier bullshit, but even given every benefit of the doubt in the world, the negligence has to be criminal.
It’s a small town. He’s probably buddies with all the cops and DAs. That shit is super common.
Lots of countries have small towns, where that doesn’t mean it’s fine to shoot a daughter. It’s an international scandal now, so it’s not like they managed to keep it quiet. Everyone, everywhere, can see the disfunction.
It’s not like it matters. Being international news isn’t going to suddenly make the good ol boys do the right thing.
Lots of eyes actually do have a way of getting these kinds of cases.the attention they need; remember Ahmaud Arbery? Good ol’ boys walked away uncharged until a local news report went viral 2 months later.
But the folks above those good ol boys suddenly have a spot light on them, so feel pressured to do the right thing. They get ask by those above them why are they failing.
I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one.
they really don’t care, man. talk to some boomers sometimes they desperately need to be forced into retirement and group homes.
Get your ageist nonsense out of here. Old people make good and bad decisions, just like everyone does.
While true, lead exposure is strongly correlated with age.
Texas is a shithole.
Jesus H. Christ, hot damn.
Did you know that the H stands for Harold.
ie. Hark the Harold’s angels sing
I didn’t kill her, the bullet and impact did.
And maybe the half bottle of wine I drank. But I definitely didn’t do it on purpose.
… Yes I said I wouldn’t mind if something terrible happened to her, but that isn’t a motive.
Lawless shithole country.
“As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang,” Kris allegedly said. “I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell.” WTF!!! It proves he pointed the gun at his daughter, which is a big fucking NO NO! Worse yet, the damn thing was locked and loaded. Fuck him, charge him with murder.
Exactly this. I was taught not to point a gun at anything I don’t intend to destroy, even if I believe it not to be loaded.
Anything less than that is negligent manslaughter at the least if the gun ‘goes off’ ‘by accident’, because you should never be in that situation.
This is just an excuse, dude murdered his daughter and is trying to blame it on the gun. Guns don’t load themselves, and they don’t magically go off…
Remember, guns don’t kill people, people kill people
And sadly, the highest percentage is within a family.
There’s no excuse for it to not be murder, but the fact its not even manslaughter is a message.
Where I live, in Europe, you CAN own firearms. Long guns pretty easily, as they are considered hunting/sporting guns, including semi-auto assault rifles, albeit, with 3 round magazines. Buying or even 3D printing larger ones is trivial, but it’s a felony to have one near the gun (same range/car/house…).
Long gun licenses require a medical, which includes a basic psych eval.
Handguns require a stricter medical, with a more detailed psych eval, and a course which includes gun safety, and legislation, among other things.
Except for some rare exceptions (jewelers, judges, and other people that can objectively be considered a target for assault or retaliation) you cannot carry, open or otherwise, except to go to a range, or hunting ground, and the gun and munitions must be separated; guns in a case in the trunk, with the magazine and munitions in the front of the car.
I don’t get why there isn’t a reasonable license for guns in the US. There is for cars, no?
Because freedumb
Why have I never seen this before. What a great homonym.
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“reasonable license for cars” lol no. I mean we need a license to drive, but it’s so stupidly easy in so many places and you can fail so many times and still get it. We basically test if the person has a pulse before letting them drive. And based on the driving changes I’ve seen since covid I’m thinking even the pulse has become optional
Interesting. Here the license has gotten steadily harder to get. I’m sure there are connections: drivers schools, traffic authority, grift, etc, but the fact is that it’s a bit of a hurdle for many.
I’m gonna guess there’s no significant hurdle to getting a psych eval in your European country. No expensive medical bill, no worrying about time off from work to get it.
We hyperfocussed so much on that “shall not be infringed” part that we managed to give up our health and the best 40 years of our lives to the machine.
Also assuming that mental health care even exists in your state…. Oklahoma doesn’t even have providers to get that expensive evaluation from…
Prices for these types of exams are fixed, and not particularly expensive. You aren’t getting therapy, you are being screened for obvious things. Usually less than 30 min. That time does let you find the glaring stuff.
Nevermind that’s all emotional BS.
He did it intentionally not on accident. They’re trusting the murderer in the m urder case.
Guess it’s time for another accidental shooting, huh.
Luigi should try this defense.
“I just wanted to show him my cool gun, but then it went off, all on its own. Complete accident!”
Is the father even a citizen?
Hello ICE, I think I found one of those illegals 😏
A dangerous criminal too, the kind they promised they’d go after
Even when people kill by accident, they’re usually charged with something!
Oscar Pistorius was charged and convicted.
This case exposes USA as a bigger shit-hole than fucking South Africa. That is really saying something!
Yet again we see that for country that is insanely in love with guns, they have no idea how to handle guns safely.
I will recap the basics of gun safety for the folks in the back:
Don’t pick up a gun unless you are going to use it and know how to use it safely.
The gun is loaded, on a hair trigger and the safety is off.
Do not point the gun at anything you don’t intend to kill or destroy.
Finger out of the trigger guard.
THE GUN IS FUCKING LOADED.
Yeah that’s how you know he killed her on purpose
It’s so strange to me, the people that the public will hold accountable and the people who get a pass
Sometimes if I’m facing the wrong way in line at the grocery store or if I get randomly distracted by something, an old person or a woman will accost me, literally screaming and crying, complete with snot bubbles, because I’ve made some kind of basic and understandable error. I pressed the wrong button, I didn’t see someone in line so I cut in front of them, I forgot to hold the elevator door.
This guy shoots his daughter and people are saying ridiculous shit, assuming that he’s stupid or assuming that he’s going to snap out of it one day. He can’t just be a murderer. People are frothing at the mouth to make excuses for people like this.
Well that and the Father saying he wouldn’t feel bad if something terrible happened to her because he has two better behaved daughters.
Unfortunately I’ve heard statements like this before.
To them, they didn’t so much “kill” her, they “cured her terminal TDS”.
What’s really scary is that I’m sure that this “father” isn’t the only one who thinks this way. I worry that there’s a lot of other “fathers” that would hurt their own flesh and blood because they differ politically. This is the reach of that child-fuckers cult.
Edit to add, from the article:
Well there it is. White dude in Texas shoots his daughter over TDS, and a"Jury of his peers" looks the other way.
Beware of the R word.
Why not ‘regulate’? Ah yes freedom.
Honour killings are legal in America now. No surprise from Texas, the centre of American terrorists
Article reads more like a typical redneck American trying to convince someone from another country that their gun legislation is reasonable, while proving it is not.