Ukrainian soldiers react to Trump's victory: 'This could be a disaster,' others say Biden was 'impotent' (kyivindependent.com)
from breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 05:53
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Though doubt looms over Trump’s moves in the coming months, his warm relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin and his September claim that Ukraine was “demolished” and its people “dead” have left Kyiv worried.

In his victory speech in Florida, Republican party leader Trump did not directly mention the war in Ukraine but reminded the cheering crowd that the U.S. saw “no wars” during his first presidential term from 2017 to 2021 before Joe Biden, the Democratic party’s outgoing president, succeeded him.

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The Kyiv Independent asked six Ukrainian servicemen for their reaction to Trump’s victory.

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adarza@lemmy.ca on 07 Nov 2024 06:13 next collapse

Ukrainian soldiers react to Trump’s victory: ‘This could be a disaster,’ others say Biden was ‘impotent’

not biden, the republican “led” house.

Skiluros@sh.itjust.works on 07 Nov 2024 06:47 collapse

While this is true, I wouldn’t discount the disastrous “escalation management” approach pursued by Biden’s administration.

I understand the logic in a superficial sense, but it at least partially stems from ignorance about how russians think and how to deal with them. In a geo-political sense, they are not capable of good faith actions and they only respect brute force and strength. You would be challenged to find a single noteable example of genuine good faith actions from the russians in all of their history.

IcePee@lemmy.beru.co on 07 Nov 2024 08:28 collapse

Trouble is, with the funding gone, the choice they now have is fight and die, or negotiate a settlement and most probably die. But slower. Probably. Ultimately, an independent Ukraine was a wonderful dream. Time to wake up. And with it any faith that the US will have to keep it’s promises.

Skiluros@sh.itjust.works on 07 Nov 2024 08:35 next collapse

I am biased, but I wouldn’t count out Ukraine just yet.

Barbarian@sh.itjust.works on 07 Nov 2024 10:08 collapse

The optimistic alternative is EU countries scale up their military production and cover the gap. We were already seeing a ramp up, but it’ll have to accelerate.

Downside for the US is later down the line, exports will go down as the EU will have more domestic manufacturing.

Cypher@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 15:09 next collapse

The EU doesn’t have a choice.

They can fight this war in Ukraine or in Poland, it is cheaper to aid Ukraine.

Paddzr@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 21:56 collapse

No one is stupid enough to fight NATO, even without US. Yeah, far from ideal, but US isn’t NATO, they’re biggest figure but quit acting like US is some sort of world saviour… Yknow those were just movies, yeah?

Cypher@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 22:00 collapse

The Vatniks are absolutely stupid enough to try.

Already the vatniks claim they are fighting NATO so if they win then that means they beat NATO and can do it again.

Kalkaline@leminal.space on 07 Nov 2024 16:22 collapse

We have tariffs and no plan in place to improve domestic manufacturing capabilities, what could possibly go wrong?

Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 17:59 next collapse

Biden is a neoliberal. Neoliberals are moderate conservatives. Moderate conservatives have always been impotent. They are here for the money, not to improve anything.

maplebar@lemmy.world on 07 Nov 2024 18:32 collapse

The Biden administration not only gave intel to Ukraine weeks before the invasion, they also rallied the world behind support for Ukraine and sanctions on Russia, not to mention the billions and billions of dollars of military aide. These ungrateful fucks wouldn’t have bullets to fire or guns to fire them with if it wasn’t for the Biden administration.