Iraq could allow marriage for girls as young as 9. A survivor says it will fuel rape and child abuse (www.nbcnews.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 15 Dec 12:27
https://lemmy.world/post/23163174

Summary

Proposed amendments to Iraq’s Personal Status Law could allow girls as young as 9 to marry, sparking outrage from rights groups and survivors like “Batta,” who endured abuse after being forced into marriage at 11.

The changes would shift decision-making power to clerics, undermining existing protections for women and children established in 1959.

Supporters claim the amendments promote family values, but critics call them a violation of children’s rights and a step toward legalized child abuse.

Activists and lawmakers are working to block the controversial proposal.

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disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world on 15 Dec 13:21 next collapse

I have maybe a handful of memories made under 9 years old. Just imagine being married for as far back as you can remember. These poor girls

Passerby6497@lemmy.world on 15 Dec 15:36 collapse

Oh don’t worry, trauma victims will have plenty of memories from that age 🤢🤮

Reverendender@sh.itjust.works on 15 Dec 13:55 next collapse

I would imagine that fueling rape and child abuse is the point.

ramsorge@discuss.online on 15 Dec 18:08 collapse

Republicans are taking notes.

EpeeGnome@lemm.ee on 15 Dec 18:39 collapse

They don’t need to take any notes. Child marriage is legal and still happening in many US states. And you guessed it, it’s Replicans who defend those laws, by invoking “family values”.

It’s horrible that they plan to change the law to allow that to happen over there, but we here in the US aren’t in any position to feel morally superior about it till we finally ban it ourselves.

[deleted] on 15 Dec 17:38 next collapse
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Stamau123@lemmy.world on 15 Dec 17:51 next collapse

claim the amendments support family values

I mean I guess it makes more family, but Jesus Christ

john89@lemmy.ca on 15 Dec 18:39 next collapse

Morons: They should get the run the country how they want, and if you don’t like it LEAVE.

[deleted] on 15 Dec 19:19 next collapse
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PixellatedDave@lemmy.world on 15 Dec 21:21 collapse

He was also a slave trader and worse of all, he didn’t like dogs…

betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world on 15 Dec 21:24 collapse

Arson, murder and jaywalking.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 15 Dec 20:44 next collapse

More proof, to me at least, that there is no god out there.

CaptPretentious@lemmy.world on 17 Dec 00:14 collapse

I mean really yeah.

Either God doesn’t exist. Or God does exist and allows this crap to happen, which is akin to just approving of it. And if that’s the case hail Satan.

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 15 Dec 20:54 next collapse

Others, like fellow Shia lawmaker Alya Nassif, called for the proposals to be voted down like similar amendments were in 2014 and 2017. Calling the proposals “dangerous,” Nassif said the law “threatens society and families.” She added that the members of parliament had been presented with “a collection of ideas written on two sheets of paper,” rather than “legal articles that are needed to be discussed for voting.”

hark@lemmy.world on 15 Dec 22:25 next collapse

Was this a thing when Saddam was still in charge?

Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml on 15 Dec 23:45 next collapse

Nope, he was absolutely not a good man, but he kept order and stability that America and Israel to wipe that out.

Blackmist@feddit.uk on 16 Dec 00:54 collapse

…wikipedia.org/…/Human_rights_in_Ba'athist_Iraq

But sure, the dreaded West is to blame!

Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml on 16 Dec 02:24 next collapse

I’m sorry, is your source just a literal Wikipedia page? Are you serious? Bro get outta here 🤣

Harvey656@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 02:58 next collapse

I’m Sorry, is your home instance .ml? Are you serious? Bro get outta here :dumbass emoji:

Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml on 16 Dec 04:44 collapse

What? I’m sorry I’m not joining you on that basement dweeb back and forth about home instance 🤣🤣🤣 I’m using Lemmy as a Reddit alternative, and ml was just the choice I set on because I love an underdog number 2 instance. you should consider touching grass and getting a hobby, there’s bigger things in this world than this dude. Let it be a wake-up call before it’s too late

ManixT@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 03:11 collapse

Your response is so damn stupid.

Theie link is to a Wikipedia article, which anyone can correct. I know you won’t, because you don’t care about the truth.

Harvey656@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 03:19 collapse

Wikipedia articles also can link to more sources off-site, so one Wikipedia link can be dozens if not more sources.

ManixT@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 03:23 collapse

Seriously. It is just insane anyone takes these people seriously.

Every comment from them seems like part of a disinformation campaign.

Harvey656@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 03:25 collapse

Every comment likely is. I’m not one for stereotyping, but there is a very clear pattern.

mightyfoolish@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 03:34 collapse

When the laws being made are by a US-made puppet government that did not exist in the past regime… It’s time to call things for how they are.

Edit: changed some phrasing

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 05:13 collapse

Were illegal marriages a thing when Saddam was still in charge, or were legislation proposals with any ambiguity about passing a thing when Saddam was still in charge?

Yes. No. Respectively.

Great JAQing off about a dictator who gouged out children’s eyes.

For those wondering about the issue of child marriage in Iraq before the modern day who aren’t perpetual apologists for whatever fascists they can find to drool over,

“I lost my life the day my marriage began. I was 13, and the man I had to marry was 20 years older than me.” Shaima’s story is one told only within the intimacy of a home. Nestled on the couch of a modest yet tastefully decorated living room, she sips her Turkish coffee, ensuring there are enough grounds left to read her fortune in search of signs of better days. She smokes cigarette after cigarette, taking a long drag before exhaling as if symbolically releasing her life story.

Born in 1977 in a village near Basra in southern Iraq, Shaima was the eldest of nine siblings raised amid the violence of the 1980s Iran-Iraq War. It was a childhood “with just enough money to buy bread each day, nothing more,” she recalled. “My father sold me to the brother of one of his friends. I didn’t want to marry him; he was too old, violent, and always angry. But I couldn’t refuse.” From this forced marriage came five children. “I had my first child at 14. I was so young and exhausted that one day, I fell asleep while breastfeeding my baby girl. She suffocated and died.” The silence that followed the confession is crushing.

…la-croix.com/…/in-iraq-activists-fight-against-p…

hark@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 05:37 collapse

I don’t know why you have to be so hostile over a genuine question.

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 05:39 next collapse

Because you have a pattern of ‘just asking questions’ on every fascist cunt who comes up? I apologize for having a basic sense of pattern recognition.

hark@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 05:41 collapse

Who else did I ask questions about?

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 05:43 collapse

Oh, is this going to be like the last time you played dumb as to your past statements, and then when I brought receipts you went silent on the topic and proceeded to waste my fucking time? If it is, I’d at least like to know beforehand.

hark@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 05:53 collapse

You certainly have a wild imagination because if you’re referring to the time I think you are, the last time you brought “receipts” it was you linking to posts of mine not containing anything you claimed I wrote. I don’t know why you’re so angry at me, but perhaps you would be better able to read my posts and not hallucinate patterns if you weren’t in a blind rage.

It really is unfortunate because I appreciate the information you gave in your initial response, but the hostility was so off-putting.

PugJesus@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 06:01 collapse

You certainly have a wild imagination because if you’re referring to the time I think you are, the last time you brought “receipts” it was you linking to posts of mine not containing anything you claimed I wrote.

Fucking lol

Maybe stop cheerleading atrocities and fascists if you can’t even keep track of how often you fucking do it.

It really is unfortunate because I appreciate the information you gave in your initial response, but the hostility was so off-putting.

Oh, I’m sorry that I was rude to you when all you were doing was trying to play your usual “Amerikkka Bad” card by whitewashing a dictator who tortured and murdered on a literally genocidal scale. You know, not unlike what you do with Assad? Would you like to play apologist for the Taliban next? I know you’re just drooling over the possibility.

hark@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 06:57 collapse

I don’t know what you think that link is supposed to show, but you’d have to be on something powerful to think me saying democrats should try to stop the genocide instead of sending billions in support is somehow me “cheerleading atrocities”.

I still don’t know what I did to piss you off so much, but apparently you’re so angry that you’ve built a whole strawman of me and you’ve just been fighting with that strawman this entire time. Have fun with that, hope it helps you relieve stress.

Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 16 Dec 22:14 collapse

What hostility? Don’t “just ask questions” if you’re not man enough for the answer.

hark@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 23:45 collapse

What hostility?

JAQing off about a dictator

perpetual apologists for whatever fascists they can find to drool over

Yeah, what hostility? 🙄

Then you add in some dumb shit about being “man enough” without a shred of self-awareness. Are you trolling or are you genuinely like this? Note that PugJesus has yet to show where I was “just asking questions” ever, but don’t let that get in the way of your cheerleading for his baseless accusations.

njm1314@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 01:43 next collapse

Well yeah, it is rape and child abuse.

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JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world on 16 Dec 12:26 collapse

The article is about Iraq, not Iran.