Why are mysterious drones flying over New Jersey?
(www.aljazeera.com)
from yarr@feddit.nl to world@lemmy.world on 12 Dec 16:04
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from yarr@feddit.nl to world@lemmy.world on 12 Dec 16:04
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Some people are saying these are either UFOs or a foreign country. I believe that these HAVE to be domestic. Look – if China/Russia/etc can overfly our most sensitive military bases and our Air Force, etc. doesn’t respond, the USA has gotten PUNKED. What is actually happening is you are seeing some sanctioned activity either by a commercial contractor of the Federal government, or you are seeing some secret Air Force tech. The Army, etc will just deny, deny, deny, because they know in a couple of days this will fall out of the news cycle.
I’d be curious to hear people’s theories to see if I’m alone in my line of thinking or not.
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I’ll just add some detail to this as a resident of NJ; we’re the most densely populated state in the nation. I would say it would be difficult for anything to fly in our airspace without being in close proximity to any of these things.
Even in the more rural south of the state, you have a massive military base, McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst taking up a huge area
Sure, to think the Air Force / Army etc would tolerate such a blatant violation of their airspace with NO RESPONSE is crazy. It’s not like they have to fly 5000 miles like you said. They are literally right there. If America was really this powerless against drones in our airspace, then Iran, etc. would be dropping grenades on our power stations in 2 seconds. We’d be totally owned. This is VERY CLEARLY either the government themselves, or something done with the government’s agreement.
Another point – if these drones are so secret and spooky, why are many of them flying with FAA compliant safety lights? Iran / aliens worried about mid-air collisions? Awfully nice of them!
Yeah the bright lights is why I also think this is some skunkworks testing that Uncle Sam would rather not disclose rather than an adversary. That said, if that was the case why don’t they pull out something akin to the tried and true “just weather balloons” excuse?
Easy, because government excuses need a veneer of belivability. Clearly, weather balloons don’t move like these objects (who, as far as I am aware, EVERYONE is calling drones), so that can’t be the excuse.
Oh yeah I agree that’s not the most plausible. I just mentioned that as it’s an excuse they’ve used previously. I’d expect something more like “light pollution surveying” or “generic scientific study”.
I can’t imagine you’d do an operation like this over one of the busiest parts of the country without a pre-prepared cover story that doesn’t make the government look incompetent. They usually hate looking incompetent.
The problem with those excuses is they’d have to ‘own’ the drones, and clearly, they want to avoid that at this point. They are just trying to make it very boring until these drones drop out of the news cycle and America’s mad about something else for a week or two.
Yeah I guess if they’re just short term testing something they can just wait for them to “go away” and then people will move on
We had a drone scare in a town near where I live. It was dropping a “mysterious substance” on cars and houses. Turns out it was just a heron pooping on things.
Now, there are photos of the NJ drone, so I’m more inclined to believe this is actually a drone, but even still, consumer drones are getting better and cheaper. This could easily just be a teenager having fun.
It’s been going on too many places for too long to be more than a few things…
It’s ours and we’re doing some sort of panic test or show of force
It’s ours and we’re looking for something dangerous and don’t want anyone to know
Its an enemy state and we’re either observing/gathering counter intel and don’t want to alert that state to our capabilities
It’s an enemy state and we don’t want to have drones packed with ??? falling over homes
It’s aliens ayyy
There’s zero chance a military branch hasn’t had this on satellite 8k by now but nearly every situation means they will never disclose information to citizens.
Or it’s a nonstate actor with unknown intentions. Corporate reconnaissance, perhaps? Musk preparing for his privatization of the military…
can i just see a real UAP one day please
These technically ARE UAP. They are just not extraterrestrial in origin.
Anyone ever watch Black Mirror? Specifically Hated in the Nation
It’s kind of terrifying because we’ve watched the evolution of drone combat in real time, first in Ukraine and now in Syria (where Ukraine sent operators).
Hopefully it’s more of whatever the fuck this is:
arstechnica.com/…/rocket-report-ukrainian-launch-…
ntd.com/chinese-student-charged-for-allegedly-pho…
Otherwise, it might represent another 9/11 with massive coordinated attacks on infrastructure all over the east coast. It only takes a few substations before the grid starts getting wobbly, or water treatment plants, etc., also structures that have been repeatedly probed with information warfare.
And next we’ve got Trump coming.
Oh boy.
A shotgun with buckshot should be enough to take them down, and in New Jersey there are more guns than in Texas. I saw this in a documentary (The Baritones or something)
Sure, maybe at low altitudes, but try that at 1,500 feet.
Challenge accepted.
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Planes? Hobbiest drones? You know you can just go out and buy a drone and fly it around right? All sorts of shapes and sizes and colors.
This whole thing reminds me of a saying:
“Anything can be a UFO if you suck at identifying stuff”
If it was planes: then the FAA would be looking up whomever it is and slamming them in court and otherwise. Look at typical airspace violations – they pounce on the offenders extremely quickly and there are immediate consequences. There is an immense amount of radar coverage over the US and any “mystery plane” not flying with their ADS-B transponder can be met with a response up to and including fighter jets being scrambled.
Regarding drones, it’s pretty much a weekly occurrence that some numbnuts flies a drone in restricted airspace. The FAA have gotten very good at tracking down these folks.
So basically, both of your theories happen routinely and our government is very practiced at dealing with them.