Interesting that it’s Israel breaking it though rather than the US. If the US wants the strait open but Israel doesn’t care, where does that leave them?
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 14:57
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It leaves them bent over like beggars under sacks.
They’ve been non stop “ceasefiring” on Lebanon Hezbollah until Hezbollah retaliated and immediately Israel cried the terrorists are attacking! They broke the ceasefire! We are victims in all this. I believed that’s when israel tried to put boots on the ground and the squad or whatever got fucked up. This shits been going for so long it all blurs together. Sorry if I got the events wrong.
Israel already said they weren’t recognizing the deal and they weren’t leaving Lebanon, so the real question is what is Trump willing to do to about Israel to make that ceasefire stick? Historically not a lot, but that relationship does seem to be chafing a lot recently.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
on 19 Jun 15:34
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Trump will capitulate to his master, no worries.
Waterpumpee@lemmus.org
on 19 Jun 15:39
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So sick of ‘ethnically cleansing’ (nothing personal), so sanitized, even genocide is usually out of context. How about we go back to ‘mass murderers’ and ‘war criminals’?
marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
on 19 Jun 17:17
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Doesn’t really encapsulate what is happening. Every war the US has been a part of since WWII has objectively made every single US politician and military member a mass murderer and war criminal. Every single one. Only a few were ever a genocidier or could claim ethnic cleansing.
It’s important to have that difference, especially when communicating outside of anti-imperialist bubbles, i.e. if you need to gain support for actual change amongst a populace who see members of the US military as ‘heroes’ or some other similar nonsense.
Makes sense I guess, not a USian myself, thankfully, and have less need of doublespeak. Personally I just think of them all as subcategories of ‘mass murderer’, including ‘legal’ wars and especially those who instigate them, although I concede the waters can be murky there.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 19 Jun 16:20
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Seriously y’all I think I might be developing precog abilities.
Cause this seemed like the only possible thing that could have happened.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
on 19 Jun 17:00
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Israel is the good guy here, they’re prolonging the war so we can keep trading the TACOs on the stock market like all the other big players. The longer it goes on, the better your precog abilities get, the more money you can earn.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 19 Jun 16:26
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As of this post CBS News is reporting a truce deal between Hezbollah and Israel.
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Good thing the markets are closed, I guess.
I guess Iran was serious about their demands huh?
Interesting that it’s Israel breaking it though rather than the US. If the US wants the strait open but Israel doesn’t care, where does that leave them?
It leaves them bent over like beggars under sacks.
America seems pretty willing to bend over for Israel currently
Not very surprising, though.
They already said that they didn’t approve of this latest agreement.
Even when they approve things they still breach it
They’ve been non stop “ceasefiring” on
LebanonHezbollah until Hezbollah retaliated and immediately Israel cried the terrorists are attacking! They broke the ceasefire! We are victims in all this. I believed that’s when israel tried to put boots on the ground and the squad or whatever got fucked up. This shits been going for so long it all blurs together. Sorry if I got the events wrong.Israel already said they weren’t recognizing the deal and they weren’t leaving Lebanon, so the real question is what is Trump willing to do to about Israel to make that ceasefire stick? Historically not a lot, but that relationship does seem to be chafing a lot recently.
Trump will capitulate to his master, no worries.
they have compromisig material on him
Which one? He seems to have so many these days, but none of them are the American electorate.
I’m sure he’ll find a way to blame Biden or Obama for this.
I mean yeah Israel is still occupying and ethnically cleansing Lebanon.
So sick of ‘ethnically cleansing’ (nothing personal), so sanitized, even genocide is usually out of context. How about we go back to ‘mass murderers’ and ‘war criminals’?
Doesn’t really encapsulate what is happening. Every war the US has been a part of since WWII has objectively made every single US politician and military member a mass murderer and war criminal. Every single one. Only a few were ever a genocidier or could claim ethnic cleansing.
It’s important to have that difference, especially when communicating outside of anti-imperialist bubbles, i.e. if you need to gain support for actual change amongst a populace who see members of the US military as ‘heroes’ or some other similar nonsense.
Makes sense I guess, not a USian myself, thankfully, and have less need of doublespeak. Personally I just think of them all as subcategories of ‘mass murderer’, including ‘legal’ wars and especially those who instigate them, although I concede the waters can be murky there.
Seriously y’all I think I might be developing precog abilities.
Cause this seemed like the only possible thing that could have happened.
Israel is the good guy here, they’re prolonging the war so we can keep trading the TACOs on the stock market like all the other big players. The longer it goes on, the better your precog abilities get, the more money you can earn.
As of this post CBS News is reporting a truce deal between Hezbollah and Israel.