Iran laying 'sea mines' across Strait of Hormuz shipping lane (metro.co.uk)
from return2ozma@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 18:53
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blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 10 Mar 19:06 next collapse

Sensationalist headline.

The US claims that Iran is considering laying mines…

Non-paywalled:

archive.today/m8Bme

return2ozma@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 19:14 next collapse
matlag@sh.itjust.works on 10 Mar 19:28 collapse

And even then, can’t the US military detect them and blow them up? Or have cheap drones patrolling ahead of ships to trigger them?

blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 10 Mar 19:31 next collapse

Probably an excuse to use a nuke

FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 19:49 collapse

I’m not sure the insurance companies will pay out when someone loses a quarter billion dollar freighter plus cargo and associated personnel in a warzone when they come back with “but we put a cheap drone out front just to check for mines” lol

towerful@programming.dev on 10 Mar 20:57 collapse

I dunno if a “cheap drone” can produce the same magnetic response that a fucking cargo ship can, but it seems extremely unlikely.

And what, you have 2 in the water ahead of you? Is that enough for it to be clear for a cargo ship? They function perfectly all the time and catch every single mine?
What happens when 1 finds a mine? How many extras do you carry? What happens when you run out, “just turn around”?

Drones could probably clear a shipping channel, but at some point and actual ship is going to have to go through it.
And the suez canal was blocked for ages due to 1 ship, even after having been operated for decades. That, except the ship sinks.

hector@lemmy.today on 10 Mar 21:38 collapse

Plus I think many of the mines do not float, they lurk below the water line, making them harder to spot.

jobbies@lemmy.zip on 10 Mar 19:11 next collapse

Ahh well we’re all fucked then. Cheers America!

ThePantser@sh.itjust.works on 10 Mar 19:23 next collapse

Well if this doesn’t cause oil to skyrocket then nothing will.

Glad I still have my EV, now if I can just find a pallet of solar panels.

rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 10 Mar 19:34 next collapse

Take a look on ebay, I found several pallets of solar panels for less than $2k

dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de on 10 Mar 21:46 collapse

Diesel went from £1.33/litre to £1.42/litre in less than a week.

shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works on 10 Mar 19:26 next collapse

But the potus said the war was over

Gork@sopuli.xyz on 10 Mar 19:39 collapse

Does anybody really believe that? Or that only he can determine if Iran has unconditionally surrendered?

Drusas@fedia.io on 10 Mar 19:30 next collapse

Can marine drones not take out sea mines?

perestroika@slrpnk.net on 11 Mar 01:01 next collapse

Sonar-equipped and fiber-controlled submersible drones / robots can. Ordinary sea drones are just small boats with cameras for finding a target, typically made of aluminum or fiberglass. They typically don’t have sonar, ride on the surface, and their magnetic signature needs massive amplification to trigger a mine.

Signature amplification might be doable, though.

frongt@lemmy.zip on 11 Mar 03:41 collapse

Depends on the type of mine and the method of detection. It’s really hard to find stuff in the ocean, and the strait is a big place. You’d have to do a lot of sweeping by radar and hope you’re able to find them before they find you. And Iran is likely to just destroy such a drone when they see it.

WanderWisley@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 20:14 next collapse

Time to play mine sweeper! 🫲🍊🫱

wuffah@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 20:21 next collapse

Press secretary Karoline Leavitt said: ‘This operation will result in lower gas prices in the long term.’

This is only if they manage to occupy Iran. After murdering their children, and treasonously backing out of TWO working nuclear deals, there’s not a snowball’s chance on the sun that Iranians will ever trust the US or the West again. Even then, we would just literally be stealing their natural resources.

What happened to this being about blocking their nuclear program? Now that the price of oil has doubled, they just pivot to “prices will fall once we take their oil”? These people can’t even lie convincingly. They can’t plan or orchestrate a war against a lesser force with the most powerful military ever conceived. As of now, the US Navy cannot secure the Straight of Hormuz. How long will it take to end the conflict and de-mine the entire strait?

Democrats need to HAMMER this home: Trump’s war costs EXACTLY this much at the pump, every day. There needs to be a ticker on every news broadcast showing live gas prices around the nation.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 10 Mar 20:30 next collapse

Democrats need to HAMMER this home: Trump’s war costs EXACTLY this much at the pump, every day. There needs to be a ticker on every news broadcast showing live gas prices around the nation.

Except then they'd have to actually oppose the war, and they won't do that because their donors support imperialism.

Jhex@lemmy.world on 10 Mar 21:11 next collapse

is there any point? it’s clear now Muricans will do nothing meaningful to fight this regime

hector@lemmy.today on 10 Mar 21:35 collapse

Democrats will be mostly for the war, even as they hem and haw about this or that. They are mostly all aipac’s creatures, if not epstein “pals.”

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com on 10 Mar 20:55 collapse

I don’t know much of anything about sea mines, but I’d wager that they are very inexpensive compared to the countermeasures / clean-up efforts.