Major nations agree on first-ever global tax on greenhouse gases with plan that targets shipping (ground.news)
from wolfyvegan@slrpnk.net to world@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 17:40
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absquatulate@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 18:06 next collapse

I’d be tempted to say this is good news, but I bet it’ll end up being just another tax on poor nations.

Edit: amusing how these days “all major nations” does not include US anymore

Letsdothisok@lemmy.world on 12 Apr 20:09 collapse

This is terrible… this will only hurt people financially. THAT IS ALL.

holetz@piefed.social on 13 Apr 02:04 next collapse

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JasonDJ@lemmy.zip on 13 Apr 14:20 next collapse

Yeah, it will.

But at the same time, carbon is way too cheap.

It sucks…but by not paying for the externalities of consuming carbon, we’ve been making the planet less habitable for all, but especially poor people. Heavy carbon emitters are always upwind and upstream of poor communities. We ship out our worst waste to third world countries.

Something’s gonna have to give. There’s no easy solution. But I’d definitely take carbon taxes over tariffs. Targeting nation-states arbitrarily isn’t going to fix anything, but targeting the shipping industry will.

There’s no good answer.

Letsdothisok@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 15:35 collapse

What you say is true. Especially the “no good answer” part.

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip on 13 Apr 16:03 collapse

I know. It really sucks. Poor communities already take the brunt of it. There’s a reason why poor communities, even (if not especially) in the US have lower life expectancies,more cancer cases, more asthma, higher birth defects, etc.

The good news is, they would feel the pinch of carbon taxes mostly on imported goods. Which, granted, while it would mean more expensive goods for the consumer, I think it would also mean less frivolous consumption, which ultimately would harm the rampant consumerism and with it a lot of major polluters.

jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world on 13 Apr 15:48 collapse

It’ll hurt them about ten trillion times less than not doing it, which is the relevant comparison.