Georgia goes ‘North Korea’ with bombshell plan to ban main opposition parties (www.politico.eu)
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MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 16:11 next collapse
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 16:14 next collapse

Why bother with opposition parties when your country is a Russian vassal state?

Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca on 24 Aug 2024 16:27 next collapse

I always thought of Georgia as a country that hates Russia, given the whole Abkhazia and South Ossetia thing

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 16:38 next collapse

That was then, this is now. Russia doesn’t control it yet, but this is the step to that.

atlanticcouncil.org/…/russias-georgia-strategy-of…

ABCDE@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 18:42 collapse

Huh what? They absolutely do control those two regions.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 18:49 collapse

I meant Georgia as a whole.

troed@fedia.io on 24 Aug 2024 16:52 next collapse

Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. That success likely had a role in why they continued with Ukraine in 2014.

circuscritic@lemmy.ca on 24 Aug 2024 20:28 collapse

Politics are complicated, especially in post-Soviet bloc countries e.g. the lingering effects of Russification. But anytime a ruling party is looking to dissolve all opposition parties, and label them as criminals, it’s because they feel threatened in some way.

N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Aug 2024 17:08 collapse

This is likely what’s going to happen with Taiwan and China eventually.

Corvid@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 17:26 collapse

China will never rule Taiwan, they’re not gonna start a war with all their trading partners over an island. It’s a nationalist rallying cry, nothing more.

TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee on 24 Aug 2024 17:39 next collapse

Unless Trump wins.

Then, it’s open season for dictators all over the world.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Aug 2024 18:05 next collapse

China plans to conquer Taiwan from the inside via clandestine elected officials who will pass laws to lower the walls for China to politically “invade”

Unfortunately from the last elections (the pro Beijing KMT party sneakily taking majority), it’s already working…before the citizens realize it, Taiwan will share the some authoritarian shithole regime appointed by the CCP and any talk that is not about the glory of China or unification will be a “separatist” 'national security threat"

Remember Hong Kong

N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Aug 2024 18:08 next collapse

Exactly. China doesn’t need to start a war to take Taiwan. Win an election one time, then aggressively change the rules to keep your party in power permanently.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Aug 2024 18:30 collapse

They already have parliament majority. Now they just need to unseat Lai with their own zealot as president and Taiwan is fucked. Not a single army boot will step foot in either (not until they have control anyway)

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 24 Aug 2024 18:10 collapse

What does this influence look like? Is it like the interference in elections elsewhere? Do they fund politicians like in the Philippines or Hungary or is it more like social media campaigns? What else should we be aware of?

the_wise_wolf@feddit.org on 24 Aug 2024 18:24 next collapse

Maybe.

Not_mikey@slrpnk.net on 24 Aug 2024 19:45 collapse

You’ve got it reversed, the u.s. isn’t going to war with a super power over a country most people can’t point to on a map. It’s even a question how far sanctions would go if they invaded, if you look at the Russian example the sanctions are pretty half ass and Russian petroleum is still flowing to the west, maybe less but they’re still taking in money and there economy is doing way better then before the invasion. For all the talk westerners aren’t willing to go cold in the winter or pay more at the pump for Ukraine.

That’s for a country with a way smaller role in the global supply chain, fuck dying for Taiwan the real question is whether Americans could give up their cheap consumerist bullshit for Taiwan. China knows this too, it’s just whether they want to act on it and make themselves a pariah state.

WildPalmTree@lemmy.world on 25 Aug 2024 12:01 collapse

It’s doubtful that their economy is doing better. GDP, in the middle of a failing (or costly) war, is a pretty bad metric. It doesn’t matter if you produce more value inside the country if all of it (and more) is destroyed at the front.

mozz@mbin.grits.dev on 24 Aug 2024 16:25 next collapse

Holy shit; I thought at first that this was about the US state

And nothing about that seemed all that out of place 😕

dan1101@lemm.ee on 24 Aug 2024 17:08 next collapse

Seems like their actual name is translated as Sakartvelo, we should use that. And when the state of Georgia is in a headline it should be “The US state of Georgia.”

rockerface@lemm.ee on 24 Aug 2024 19:42 collapse

Endonyms are cool and based

tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 24 Aug 2024 17:28 next collapse

I would not be at all surprised if GA tried to ban Democrats in general. And SCROTUS would sit on their butts until after the election to take it up

Eezyville@sh.itjust.works on 24 Aug 2024 21:07 collapse

They’re already doing that here in Ohio

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 23:20 collapse

sigh I stop paying attention to my state government for five fucking minutes…

grue@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 22:03 next collapse

Atlantan here; same. 😬

Saprophyte@lemmy.world on 25 Aug 2024 02:38 collapse

Augusta, also same 😐

where_am_i@sh.itjust.works on 25 Aug 2024 11:18 collapse

Default country syndrome.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 25 Aug 2024 11:51 collapse

It’s also within reason for a southern state to pull shit like this.

Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Aug 2024 16:48 next collapse

I hate this, always wanted to visit Georgia, seems like a gorgeous country.

Plopp@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 17:28 next collapse

And their people seem super friendly. Every Georgian I’ve came across online have been extremely nice.

ABCDE@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 18:41 collapse

You still can, it’s not fucked… Yet.

Dazed_Confused@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 18:08 next collapse

Now this is giving me splinter cell vibes. I hope the CIA is not missing any agents in the area.

TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 18:27 next collapse

Funny you mentioned, I’ve been thinking about the first Splinter Cell game lately lol.

telllos@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 19:24 collapse

Wasn’t it also the first ghost reacon?

harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Aug 2024 18:24 next collapse

I honestly couldn’t tell at first if this was about the country called Georgia or the American state called Georgia. It could honestly apply to both.

I hope the people of the nation of Georgia are able to overcome Putlers influence.

Saprophyte@lemmy.world on 25 Aug 2024 02:37 collapse

georgiarecorder.com/…/rid-of-raffensperger-georgi…

Thanks to laws passed by Trump allies in the state Legislature, Raffensperger has been removed from the election board. Other members were removed as well, eventually handing control of the board to a three-member MAGA majority that is dedicated not to free and fair elections but to elections that Trump can win. Trump himself, at a recent rally in Georgia, celebrated those three members, by name, as his “pitbulls” for victory.

Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 19:12 next collapse

Y’know, I’m pretty sure it’s a big red flag if anyone or anything is “going North Korea”.

tal@lemmy.today on 24 Aug 2024 19:25 collapse

I don’t think that I’d call this “North Korea”. China isn’t even North Korea, and China’s a one party state that outright prohibits parties from existing that oppose the ruling party.

There’s a spectrum of political repression, and North Korea is pretty far down it.

slickgoat@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 20:18 collapse

I take your point, but I wouldn’t categorise NK as being pretty far down the road in terms of political repression.

Try and oppose the Kim’s and see how long you continue breathing.

Badeendje@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 21:44 next collapse

Don’t they also arrest your close circle and put them in an internment camp? You know to make sure your ideas did not leak out.

tal@lemmy.today on 25 Aug 2024 01:05 collapse

looks confused

I wasn’t saying that North Korea is less politically-repressive than China.

slickgoat@lemmy.world on 25 Aug 2024 02:02 collapse

To be fair, you introduced China into the subject, not us.

I agree, tho. Both are repressive, so is Saudi Arabia, Myanmar and a whole bunch of others.

ravhall@discuss.online on 24 Aug 2024 22:50 next collapse

Hey, the best way to win is to ban the competition… says Russia, China, North Korea, heck even Cuba.

werefreeatlast@lemmy.world on 24 Aug 2024 23:31 next collapse

And look at how awesome that worked for Cuba, NK, China and ruzzia.

ravhall@discuss.online on 25 Aug 2024 00:02 collapse

Depends on who you ask. The Chinese employees hexbears and Lemmy.ml folks would argue with you… and say nothing at the same time.

Cryophilia@lemmy.world on 25 Aug 2024 11:30 collapse

Banned for sinophobia

ravhall@discuss.online on 25 Aug 2024 16:17 collapse

Haha ;)

jonwyattphillips@lemmy.ml on 25 Aug 2024 01:19 next collapse

Anyone pay attention to most recent Venezuelan election?

troglodytis@lemmy.world on 25 Aug 2024 01:23 collapse

Ignoring results is different. Pinky promise

TokenBoomer@lemmy.world on 25 Aug 2024 02:50 collapse

Bernie Sanders would like a word.

skozzii@lemmy.ca on 25 Aug 2024 02:00 collapse

Trump said it best, “Why even have elections?”.