MPs approve Finland's withdrawal from Ottawa landmine treaty (yle.fi)
from fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 10:42
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Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip on 19 Jun 11:29 next collapse

More mines near Russians, hurray!

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 19 Jun 14:31 next collapse

I wrote this on a lead-up article. Being against the use of landmines up until the point of "Well, it's different now because we need them" is hypocritical.

mgnome@piefed.social on 19 Jun 16:12 next collapse

That may be hypocritical, but having hostile neighbour, that itself doesn't respect any conventions (and Russians absolutely don't mind anti-personnel landmines among other things such as cluster munitions and chemical warfare) is a good stimuli to rethink ones principles.

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 19 Jun 18:37 collapse

Agreed.

lepinkainen@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 16:29 next collapse

The world changed. Changing your opinion when the situation changes is smart, not hypocritical

AmidFuror@fedia.io on 19 Jun 18:36 collapse

Yes, changing your opinion when there are new facts is smart.

The problem is that what changed was "Other nations are under threat of invasion and might benefit from landmines" to "Now we are also under threat." So, that's hypocritical. Landmines were always good for defense from invasion, so perhaps they should have been banned under more strict circumstances.

If you're only changing your position because now it affects you personally and not out of general principles, that's hypocrisy.

count_dongulus@lemmy.world on 19 Jun 17:20 collapse

This shows that the way to get rid of landmines is not to have countries sign a piece of paper. It’s to give them a better alternative, whether it’s literally peace, or another dirt-cheap area denial defensive weapon that isn’t indiscriminate. Because the paper is worthless once real stakes are on the line.

I think autonomous drones will eventually supplant landmines. Whether that’s better or worse, I don’t know.

lnxtx@feddit.nl on 19 Jun 14:43 collapse

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