Pregnant South Korean woman loses baby after she was turned away by 6 hospitals (www.straitstimes.com)
from schizoidman@lemmy.zip to world@lemmy.world on 04 May 04:11
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plantsmakemehappy@lemmy.zip on 04 May 04:26 next collapse

South Korean ambulances cannot move a patient to an ER without the receiving hospital’s approval.

Refusals have grown more frequent in recent years, driven by chronic staff shortages and the medical staff’s fear of criminal charges if a patient dies in their care. Doctors in South Korea are prosecuted for medical negligence at higher rates than those in other developed countries, according to multiple studies.

victorz@lemmy.world on 04 May 05:17 next collapse

Sounds like a super toxic medical system, wtf

Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works on 04 May 05:29 next collapse

Yeah, that sounds awful. And I bet the doctors and nurses are paid like shit, too.

victorz@lemmy.world on 04 May 10:23 collapse

Riiight.

Well, nurses are paid like shit here in Sweden. But doctors, not so much.

StillAlive@piefed.world on 04 May 06:16 collapse

South Korea sounds toxic in general tbh.

ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net on 04 May 07:27 next collapse

I’d consider it a genuine cyberpunk dystopia society at this point.

ProfThadBach@lemmy.world on 04 May 10:24 collapse

That was a depressing watch. As an American I see this on a larger scale happening here. Well the oligarchs that want to run the US want a dumb neo-slave population.

WongKaKui@piefed.ca on 04 May 09:16 collapse

Two dystopias in one peninsula 💀

qevlarr@lemmy.world on 04 May 06:20 next collapse

How is denying patients not medical negligence as well

grepe@lemmy.world on 04 May 12:02 collapse

that sounds horrible. in the country where i am from even a person who gives you the first aid cannot be possibly prosecuted as long as they give it their best shot at helping you, even if they would end up ultimately harming you (for example they try to stop a bleeding after a car accident and mess up your broken spine when moving you).

justsomeguy@lemmy.world on 04 May 04:37 next collapse

South Korea’s commitment to speed running their population collapse is impressive.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 04 May 05:42 collapse

probably 1 of thier reason of a larger problem.

Jumuta@sh.itjust.works on 04 May 10:55 collapse

so many epic speedrun techs

Maerman@lemmy.world on 04 May 05:45 next collapse

So I live in South Korea. The medical system here is heavily subsidized and socialized. This makes it very cheap and (mostly) accessible, but the downside is the bureaucracy that comes with that. It is also a very litigious culture, which makes it worse. Doctors here are extremely wary to prescribe anything too strong, and they communicate very little with the patients. It’s just, “Trust me, I’m a doctor.” And of course the neo-confucian mindset is also very strong here, with all the rigid hierarchy that comes with it.

Gonzako@lemmy.world on 04 May 06:48 next collapse

Neo-confucian?

poopkins@lemmy.world on 04 May 09:20 next collapse

Of course!

Gonzako@lemmy.world on 04 May 09:22 collapse

Its a question more asking about what neo confucian means here

poopkins@lemmy.world on 04 May 10:18 collapse

I’m as clueless as you, and I’m just poking fun at the use of “of course” to mention it in original comment.

mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world on 04 May 09:46 next collapse

Thomas A. Anderson-Confucius

Maerman@lemmy.world on 04 May 09:48 collapse

Neo-confucianism is a broad term for a loose collection of philosophical ideas influenced by or based on the writings of Confucius, the Chinese philosopher. It strongly influenced the development of Korean society, and it was the official state ideology at one point. It is still very prevalent, although not always expressed explicitly.

giraffes@kbin.earth on 04 May 11:58 collapse

Neo-confucianism is a broad term for a loose collection of philosophical ideas influenced by or based on the writings of Confucius

It refers to Confucianism as it was revived during and after the Song dynasty (성리학). In the case of Korea, it typically refers to the orthodoxy that traces its heritage back to Confucius through Zhuxi, the Cheng brothers, and Mencius.

Also not to be confused with New Confucianism, which is a modern Chinese development of Confucianism.

farmgineer@nord.pub on 04 May 09:49 collapse

Yeah, Japan is similar to this as well. I’ve had positive experiences all around, but I know some who have not (especially with corona which really worried me for how prepared we are).

giraffes@kbin.earth on 04 May 12:17 collapse

The medical system here in Korea has the full spectrum of convenient and affordable treatment to almost comically broken policies like the ones this article mentions. Even so, it is overall still so much better than healthcare in the US (I know that is a low bar, but the contrast is stark).