Pakistan says US and Iran have reached peace deal as Trump posts 'let the oil flow!' (www.bbc.co.uk)
from Anark@feddit.uk to world@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 22:04
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HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 22:10 next collapse

I see one of two things happening here:

  1. The deal was agreed upon without Israel’s approval, and thus Israel will immediately break the agreement and relaunch the war and Trump will bomb Iran again and prentend its all Iran’s fault
  2. Trump and Netanyahu are taking just a moment to regroup, reload, let gas prices go down with “reopening” the Straight of Hormuz, then will relaunch the war at a later date.

The least trustworthy source of information on this is the USA and its colonizer, Israel.

chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 22:23 next collapse

Number 2 is my bet. Gotta keep the ratings up through midterms.

elucubra@sopuli.xyz on 15 Jun 08:28 collapse

Number 2? You mean shit?

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 22:43 next collapse

\3) Trump and co are manipulating the markets again

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 23:34 collapse

Well that’s just a forgone conclusion as it’s a day that ends in Y

protist@retrofed.com on 14 Jun 22:55 next collapse

I’m inyeresytonsee whether gas prices will actually go down, the deficit moving through the system right now is tremendous. We may still be in for some shit regardless

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 23:07 collapse

If CNN’s stat guy is anything to go off of, you won’t see pre-war gas prices until, optimistically, 2032.

And that’s not even considering what Iran will inevitably do with total control over the Straight of Hormuz.

Kirp123@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 02:43 collapse

If Iran ends up in control of the strait they will just use it to hold the world by the balls. Nobody will want to upset them and go through this whole shit again.

BCsven@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 22:58 next collapse

Also Trump isn’t saying much about the billions they are paying to an Iran rehabilitation fund to offset the bombing destructiin

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 23:10 collapse

*Iran “please end the war my midterm odds are entirely down the shitter oh please god” fund.

Please remember to point out to every MAGAt that:

  1. Iran objectively won this war and is stronger than ever
  2. Trump objectively surrendered and now oil prices will remain elevated for years, if not decades
  3. The inevitable economic crash is tied directly and heavily to this war
  4. Trump is Israel’s bitch
  5. This war was entirely unwarranted and illegal
  6. Trump launched this war because he’s a pedophile who raped children with Epstein and Israel has the Epstein blackmail on Trump.
PlzGibHugs@piefed.ca on 15 Jun 00:07 collapse

and is stronger than ever

Arguing semantics here, but this is a bit of a stretch. Iran has suffered very significant damage. A more accurate assessment would be that it withstood the US’s onslaught without having their military or their government broken, and have exposed the US military as being too inept to properly wage war.

The takeaway is similar in the context of the war, but its the US that has fallen rather than Iran having risen, which has much more significant global implications.

Kirp123@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 02:41 collapse

Yeah I agree that Iran hasn’t become stronger, they actually got weaker as well both due to US strikes and internal unrest. But if the peace deal includes the funding that was previously discussed they may rebuild and end up in a better position overall.

Malyca@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 23:37 next collapse

Bibi already attacked Beirut

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 00:10 collapse

That was before the agreements

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 00:11 collapse

No matter how much they regroup and reload will end up the same way. Missiles and drones are fast to build , interceptors are slow to build

brucethemoose@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 23:11 next collapse

There might be blowback over details, but now the country has the attention span of a flea thanks (in my opinion) to social media. We could be paying Iran a trillion dollars of printed money, and it wouldn’t matter.

Does anyone remember Venezuela?

…Or January 6? Epstein? 1000 other controversies.

Nope. Not even a flicker in the public eye.

aramis87@fedia.io on 14 Jun 23:25 collapse

Flood the zone. Move fast, break things.

yesman@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 23:45 next collapse

This is unambiguously good news. Trump had gotten himself into a tight spot and other president’s in that situation have almost always chosen escalation. A ground war in Iran would almost certainly mean tens, or hundreds of thousands killed, plus multiples of that displaced, injured, and traumatized.

This is unambiguously good even if it’s good for Trump, the stock market, and Republicans; it’s more important than the midterms.

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 14 Jun 23:54 next collapse

Invasion this week? Got it

jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jun 00:28 next collapse

“Art of the Deal”

mrmaplebar@fedia.io on 15 Jun 00:39 next collapse

I'll file this under the "I'll believe it when I see it column".

At any rate, I absolutely do not expect oil and gas prices to go down at all, considering a lot of infrastructure has been destroyed and isn't going to simply be wished back.

humanspiral@lemmy.ca on 15 Jun 01:10 next collapse

I’m optimistic this will stick. Quiet control/tolls over SoH. Sanctions/funds relief. US leaves. 60 days talks likely to extend past mid terms, with Trump declaring victory the whole time for stopping nuclear program, before finalization. GCC likely to line up investments in Iran.

Israel can likely be contained. American assets will be forced to say how great Trump’s victory is. Israel has limited supply of US missiles, and needs cooperation from air refueling services to bring planes to Iran.

psx_crab@lemmy.zip on 15 Jun 04:57 next collapse
  • “Both sides have declared the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon”, Shehbaz Sharif says

Press X to doubt, pretty sure Israel won’t commit to this, they’re having fun colonising lebanon.

magnue@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 05:01 next collapse

Just before Monday wow.

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net on 15 Jun 08:38 next collapse

Trump says it’s a peace deal

Iran says it’s just a memorandum of understanding and they will have 60 days to negotiate the deal

Trump says they will sign it in the next 24h and the strait will be opened immediately

Iran says it will be signed Friday

Trump says there will be no tolls

Iran says they will control the passage

Iran and USA say the deal includes Lebanon

Israel is not commenting on it and bombs Beirut instead


Clusterfuck is the word.

Clutter@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jun 09:15 collapse

How much does a US President have to fuck up, for the world to trust the word of Iran more then that of the US President.

I mean. Djeezus…