'Silent majority' marches against Germany's far-right AfD (news.yahoo.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 20 Jan 2024 11:52
https://lemmy.world/post/10947004

Revelations that members of Germany’s far-right AfD discussed mass deportation plans have pushed tens of thousands of people to protest and sparked debate on whether the anti-immigrant party should be banned.

From Cologne to Leipzig to Nuremberg, Germans across the country have poured into the streets over the last week, with another 100 demonstrations expected through the weekend.

Many of the demonstrations have been held under the banner “together against the far-right”, with Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock also joining a spontaneous gathering in Potsdam, where they live.

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ABCDE@lemmy.world on 20 Jan 2024 12:16 next collapse

The vast majority of us are normal, we need to reinforce that from time to time.

GiddyGap@lemm.ee on 20 Jan 2024 12:46 next collapse

Good

chris@l.roofo.cc on 20 Jan 2024 12:50 next collapse

Currently standing at a demonstration in Nuremberg. Lots of passionate people here.

bleistift2@feddit.de on 20 Jan 2024 13:45 next collapse

Remember there’s a petition going to take that party’s leader’s right to be elected: aktion.campact.de/weact/hocke-stoppen/teilnehmen (link is German)

nexusband@lemmy.world on 20 Jan 2024 14:59 collapse

That’s the wrong way if doing this. We need to pull out the rag of under those, that vote for him and his shitty stuff, we also have to pressure the media to do better and present more facts instead of opinions…and so on. Back to the roots, basically

bleistift2@feddit.de on 21 Jan 2024 15:30 collapse

The voters don’t care about facts. That’s the problem. We need to dismantle that party while we still have democratic (read: sane) people in charge, because arguing with someone who thinks COVID was a hoax to suppress the people or that the government has a secret agenda to replace the German population with muslims is futile.

nexusband@lemmy.world on 21 Jan 2024 20:36 collapse

Dismantling the party wont change a thing. In fact, it make things worse, because it alienates and radicalizes those people even more.

Natanael@slrpnk.net on 21 Jan 2024 21:19 next collapse

It only does that to a minority of them, not the majority of the group.

nexusband@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2024 19:34 collapse
bleistift2@feddit.de on 21 Jan 2024 23:38 collapse

radicalizes those people even more

Tell me, what comes after “Let’s deport all non-Germans”?

nexusband@lemmy.world on 22 Jan 2024 19:34 collapse

“Let’s all gas/exterminate them”?

CanadaPlus@futurology.today on 20 Jan 2024 16:18 next collapse

I really, really hope AfD gets banned. Germany has strong anti-hate protections, but enforcement on small groups is avoided because they’re too small and not worth the trouble/attention, and enforcement on large groups is avoided because they’re too large and powerful, so it’s barely useful.

Canada often does the same thing.

i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de on 20 Jan 2024 21:27 next collapse

Isn’t “silent majority” the term used by the American far right?

BluesF@lemmy.world on 20 Jan 2024 22:11 next collapse

It’s a cunning technique to make any perspective seem like the one “everyone” agrees with. Because of course they agree with us… They just don’t say it out loud because [reasons] but they agree really.

SPRUNT@lemmy.world on 21 Jan 2024 00:00 next collapse

I sure fucking WISH the American fear right were silent.

muelltonne@feddit.de on 21 Jan 2024 09:52 next collapse

Since this article is coming from Germany, the term used locally would be “schweigende Mehrheit”. This is based on Elisabeth Noelle-Neumanns work on the spiral of silence:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_of_silence

In this case the head of the German Verfassungsschutz (one of the spy agencies tasked with fighting extremism) asked the silent majority to stand up against right wing extremism and Nazism and therefore this term is used here. Those american far right idiots don’t have anything to do with it. Could be that they heard something about Noelle-Neumanns work and didn’t understand it, but even that is unlikely

Natanael@slrpnk.net on 21 Jan 2024 21:19 collapse

It’s used as a lie by the American right. It doesn’t have the same associations everywhere.

DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe on 22 Jan 2024 01:57 collapse

It’s a lie wherever it’s spoken, the delusion that “the people really agree with me, even though no one shows up or says anything.”

It’s just obvious rhetorical deception on its very face, anyone can claim it for any thing at any time because it just means “I don’t have proof the people support my policies.”

If anything the “silent majority” staging a mass protest against a still minority party just proves no majority in a democracy is silent.

avater@lemmy.world on 21 Jan 2024 07:06 next collapse

But sadly they still have a lot of voters and will be probably one of the winners in the next election phase…

BoringHusband@lemmy.world on 21 Jan 2024 08:41 collapse

The people who vote AfD don’t follow the mainstream conservative media, so probably don’t even know there are protests, like Trump supporters who follow news outlets that support Trump. It would help if, for example, a number of famous football teams were brought in to promulgate a more inclusive message. That would likely be more effective than a few minutes on the ARD or ZDF News.