Gay adult content creator USSRboy has been arrested in Russia (www.advocate.com)
from jeffw@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 02:14
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JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 02:18 next collapse

‘There are no gays in Russia’

Now we know why.

aeronmelon@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 06:05 collapse

There are many gays in northern Siberia, though.

lennybird@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 02:37 next collapse

Another reason why Republicans love Russia…

Pilferjinx@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 03:40 next collapse

It’s an eastern orthodox mindset that crosses the borders in that area.

aeronmelon@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 06:05 collapse

Some hate just transcends cultures.

ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 07:17 collapse

Republicans don’t by default have anything against gays. Some do, but it’s far from most.

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 07:36 next collapse

*Gestures broadly

can@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 08:01 next collapse

Haha, so they’re just complicit.

I’m sure you’re quick to chime in with “not all cops” too.

VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 08:14 next collapse

I’m sure it’s just a complete coincidence then that republicans fought against marriage equality and adoption for same sex couples.

ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 08:34 collapse

Because they see ‘marriage’ as a christian description of matrimony between man and woman

ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social on 09 Jun 2024 08:53 next collapse

And I see modern “Christians” as deplorable but that doesn’t mean I get to strip them of all their rights.

baru@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 09:16 next collapse

Ah, so you can exclude gays. And that means:

Republicans don’t by default have anything against gays.

Because hey, every time they do everything against gays there’s an excuse! There’s been loads and loads of excuses over the years, but hey, they really don’t have anything against gays!

Jeez, done critical thinking would be good.

can@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 10:10 next collapse

Yeah, so connect the dots bud

ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 11:42 collapse

I was on their side when the debates around it reached their peak, but I don’t misunderstand homosexuality as unnatural or gays as mentally ill. In my mind it was about semantics, but I’ve since realized how that could be perceived as homophobic.

turbowafflz@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 13:36 next collapse

Unless you were advocating for a legally equivalent alternative to marriage just with a different name for people who do not fit your incredibly narrow requirements for marriage, how exactly can you claim you weren’t trying to discriminate against people?

ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 20:10 collapse

That is the conclusion I eventually came to as well.

can@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 17:06 collapse

Character growth, good. For the future telling people they don’t get to have legal rights because of your book is discrimination and the problem.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 10:49 next collapse

And they are wrong because this is America, not a Christian theocracy.

I’m not a Christian. I’m Jewish and an atheist. My wife is also an atheist. We’re married. By your excuse for Republicans, we aren’t.

ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 11:44 collapse

I don’t see how that makes sense, unless you’re also a woman. And even then, I really like ben shapiro’s approach of ‘it’s not the governments business to decide who gets to marry who’.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 11:51 next collapse

Because we did not get married based on any Christian tradition.

Neither does anyone else.

Marriage is a civil ceremony and America is a secular nation.

can@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 19:14 collapse

Because they see ‘marriage’ as a christian description of matrimony between man and woman

I guess it depends on if it’s described as christian matrimony between man and woman

SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 10:58 collapse

Then they should demand that the state gets the fuck out of any marriage business. Unless they don’t believe in the separation of church and state, that is.

ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 11:44 collapse

That was ben shapiro’s opinion on the matter too

SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 14:57 next collapse

Does he usually express it whenever gay marriage doesn’t form part of the discussion?

ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 20:11 collapse

I don’t listen to him enough to answer that

feddylemmy@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 21:00 collapse

Spoiler alert: he doesn’t argue that in good faith. He has a problem with gay marriage.

0ops@lemm.ee on 09 Jun 2024 16:09 collapse

Somehow, I doubt his voting reflects that

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 10:48 collapse

Then they should stop voting for the people that do.

Gullible@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 03:22 next collapse

Denying HIV medication is such a malignant display. How does one convince themselves that this is the right course?

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can@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 08:00 next collapse

You don’t know how lucky you are, boy

Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Jun 2024 08:03 next collapse

No you

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 12:11 collapse

I apologize for ruining this post by deleting the previous post because it gave me my first laugh of the morning.

All I can say now is… you had to be there. Sorry.

can@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 17:14 collapse

You can’t stop me :)

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Edit: Reference

febra@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 08:22 next collapse

Just for your information, but Russia hasn’t been part of the USSR for over 30 years now. Also, Putin’s Russia is extremely different to the USSR, in that it is now ruled by far-right religious fanatics. I don’t think that would fit well into the USSR.

hydroptic@sopuli.xyz on 09 Jun 2024 08:52 next collapse

Just for your information, but Russia hasn’t been part of the USSR for over 30 years now.

No shit? Maybe you should tell that to “USSRboy”? Might want to inform Kreml too because they keep cosplaying as the USSR with their red stars everywhere and eg. reestablishing the Leningrad Military District – Leningrad hasn’t existed in 30 years either, it’s been St. Petersburg.

Also, Putin’s Russia is extremely different to the USSR, in that it is now ruled by far-right religious fanatics. I don’t think that would fit well into the USSR.

You have an extremely idealized picture of what the USSR was, which seems to be a common theme with people who didn’t either have to live in it (especially the non-Russian ones) or next to it. Russia was the one running the show, and nothing of substance has really changed about Russian political culture in hundreds of years – during the USSR their rhetoric was of course different, but the incredible brutality and complete disregard for the lives of non-Russians and even Russians was still there, as was the persecution of minorities

Kusimulkku@lemm.ee on 09 Jun 2024 09:22 next collapse

Leningrad hasn’t existed in 30 years either, it’s been St. Petersburg.

Well there’s the Leningrad oblast

hydroptic@sopuli.xyz on 09 Jun 2024 10:51 collapse

Oh yeah true, I forgot about that! Although frankly it seems like it’s just a part of Russia’s USSR cosplay, just one that’s been going on for longer, where the Leningrad Military District was just re-established this year

febra@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 09:40 collapse

I’m from an Eastern European country that was USSR aligned and part of the Warsaw Pact. I don’t have an idealized image of the USSR, nor of the West. I just find it hilarious how people cling to anti USSR messages when there’s plenty of actual stuff to criticize about today’s Russia.

hydroptic@sopuli.xyz on 09 Jun 2024 10:23 next collapse

I’m from an Eastern European country that was USSR aligned and part of the Warsaw Pact.

Then you really haven’t been paying attention if you think the modern Russia isn’t up to essentially the same bullshit that they were during USSR times, just packaged up in different rhetoric.

The reason why people even brought up USSR is because, newsflash, the dude’s nickname is USSRboy. Can you deduce why somebody would sarcastically say that they got what they bargained for when they got arrested? I’ll give you 3 guesses.

febra@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 15:05 collapse

I’ve been paying lots of attention. I don’t need a westerner to tell me what to think about the place where I’m from. Based on your post history you’re Finnish. I don’t need your sense of superiority here. I know very well what I’m talking about, and you are entitled to disagree with that, but do not go on ad hominem attacks. If your points are so easy to understand and bring across, then do suit yourself and start going into the details already. Starting from my original point of criticism, do tell me how far-right religious lunatics would’ve fit into the USSR political class.

hydroptic@sopuli.xyz on 09 Jun 2024 17:08 collapse

So jailing and murdering political dissidents, agressive imperialism, extensive propaganda that paints a completely distorted view of what the state is doing, having a small and rich ruling class, russification of minorities etc. are completely different from what was going on during the USSR? Religion is the only new part here, and even that is surface-level only as it always is.

can@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 22:00 next collapse

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febra@lemmy.world on 10 Jun 2024 06:15 collapse

I have no idea what Gattsu is

el_bhm@lemm.ee on 10 Jun 2024 13:20 collapse

Same shit different era.**

Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Jun 2024 10:08 next collapse

Just for your information, USSR in 80s ran operation Denver - a massive disinformation campaign to plant a belief that aids was created in USA laboratories. You, my pedigree chum, should go home and do your homework.

StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 10:43 collapse

WHOOOOSH!

el_bhm@lemm.ee on 11 Jun 2024 10:22 collapse

In practice USSR was fascist since Stalin came to power. Argue all you want here, but the only difference was social hierarchy. On paper. As sold to common folk. In practice, since Stalin, a rigid hierarchy was established and enforced. It had a name, Nomenclature.

USSR was authoritarian - one guy run the show since Stalin.

Ultranationalist- soviet vs rest of the world. Argue till you are blue, but soviets its just a different name for the nation concept.

Centralized autocracy. People did not rule jack shit.

Militarism - they sure do love their parades.

Forcible suppression of opposition.

Belief in natural social hierarchy. Nomenclature is one thing and the same as current day oligarchy. People were trained to uphold it.

Hell, equality in USSR was also worth jack shit. In the 90s russia opened archives. Guess what, georgian soviets were sent first to the meat grinder. Prime example Battle of Berlin.

And for fuck sake. USSR forced other countries into their system. Suppressed culture, enforce russian language. That is ultranationalism.

Also, hello. We as a group of people have a mortal enemy. That mortal enemy is ever present, weak, but always encroaching. Ever endangering us.

If I have to spell it out, it is a staple of fascism.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 10:46 collapse

“He got what he deserved because of his name” is really not the takeaway here.

Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Jun 2024 10:52 collapse

So there’s a state prosecuting gay people, and a person named after that state is getting prosecuted for being gay. If you can’t see a fat irony here, you’re 100% immune to it.

Also, there’s no single word about blaming, merely an observation. Don’t put words from your head into other people’s mouth.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 10:54 collapse

Seeing the irony and saying someone got what they bargained for are two different things. Only the latter is victim-blaming, which is what was done.

Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Jun 2024 10:56 collapse

Call a doctor, make sure you get your immunity certificate in order.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 10:59 collapse

Do you think that sort of trolling comment is going to help you here? Because you’re already on thin ice for saying a queer person deserves to be persecuted for being queer because of their username.

Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Jun 2024 11:17 collapse

Primo, on what thin ice? Over what?

Secondo, I very much enjoy watching when people are arguing over remarks they made up instead of grasping the essence of what an opponent says. I challenge you to point where I said what you said I said.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 09 Jun 2024 11:20 collapse

Sorry, it’s not a moderator’s job to argue over such comments. You were shown exactly how what you said was victim blaming and it violates rule 4, but I was trying to be lenient. I have given you plenty of opportunities to rectify this situation. Now it’s time for you to take a break for a few days.

SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 11:01 next collapse

USSRboy sounds like a nickname for someone who enjoys Sino-Soviet cooperation propaganda posters a little too much

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All the more power to him though.

Vilian@lemmy.ca on 09 Jun 2024 15:37 next collapse

bro, he really don’t know how USSR treated gay people ‘-’

azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works on 09 Jun 2024 16:42 next collapse

One would have to live under rock to not expect anything bad happening when living life this way openly in Russia. Not that it’s justified what authorities do, it isn’t

kandoh@reddthat.com on 09 Jun 2024 16:44 next collapse

Russia wouldn’t have to do this if NATO wasn’t being so aggressively pro-gay 😤

uebquauntbez@lemmy.world on 10 Jun 2024 11:33 collapse

Being gay in Russia needs balls of iron, far more than any western cowboy has.