I should have invaded Ukraine earlier, Putin tells Russians in TV marathon (www.bbc.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 20 Dec 11:58
https://lemmy.world/post/23347626

Summary

Russian President Vladimir Putin, in a televised year-end press conference, said Russia should have invaded Ukraine earlier with better preparation.

He defended his policies, highlighting strengthened ties with China, Russia’s aggressive nuclear doctrine, and military gains in Ukraine, while dismissing claims of setbacks.

Putin claimed economic “stability” despite sanctions but acknowledged 9.1% inflation.

He emphasized “sovereignty” as a key success of reducing Western reliance.

The press conference was highly choreographed and tightly controlled.

#world

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FuglyDuck@lemmy.world on 20 Dec 12:43 next collapse

You know, I still say it’s incredibly depressing we didn’t loan them a couple A10 warthogs to hit that convoy that was pushing to Kyiv.

I mean, seriously.

all those tanks… all those fuel trucks and other supplies? all just lined up and stuck on a road? just waiting for an A10 driver to just… do their thing…

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 20 Dec 13:08 collapse

It was the one incredibly specific scenario where the A-10 would actually have been useful.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world on 20 Dec 13:16 next collapse

I know, right?

HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works on 20 Dec 14:10 collapse

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Vikthor@lemmy.world on 20 Dec 14:01 collapse

Unfortunately that’s not necessarily true. The north of Ukraine at the time was covered by S-300 and/or S-400 AA systems deployed in russia. While these can be dealt with by F-35(As demonstrated by Israel), something as old and slow as A-10 wouldn’t fare well. Which is one of the reasons why the US Air force is trying to retire them.

cygnus@lemmy.ca on 20 Dec 17:18 collapse

I think the UAF were already jury-rigging HARMs onto their aircraft by that time, but point taken.

ccunning@lemmy.world on 20 Dec 12:50 next collapse

“I should’ve…”

What a fuckup. They just gave him the keys to the country?

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 21 Dec 07:29 collapse

The people voted!

Ironically enough, Republicans used footage of Russians stuffing ballots as evidence of democrats stuffing ballots.

andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works on 20 Dec 15:09 next collapse

I’ve seen numerous people watching the stream live and I can’t really comprehend that. Even fanboys should know at this point there won’t be anything of value to hear. Safe scripted questions and non-answers repeating ad infinum is what every stream of his were and when shit actually happens it’s rarely if ever announced beforehead, like the start of the war was, or mobilization, or almost anything. Even if your kid ended up on the frontline, his fate would be decided in the cabinets, not on the open air, and the only time he was close to actual communication is when Prigo went rogue, because Volodya needed to actually perform some damage control, and he did that with a lag when he was assured things are nearly settled. With prols - who cares? Years before and already a year+ after that these shows were a watermill hardly deviating from Tucker Carlson’s interview and the only thing I do when I get caugh up in a room with these talks is look at his face for signs of make up\surgery and listen to his characteristical khe-khe coughing, wondering how much work they need to put THAT before people and cameras. Credit where the credit is due: he looks almost like a human, not aged an hour from his previous elections. People were joking about the fridge he sleeps in but he’s really cared for by a little army of cosmetologists.

And, after remembering the Prigo guy, I recall his descendants in the media, military bloggers, sometimes coming directly from his media org, showed a lot of dissatisfaction with that show, more than usual. They are pocketed and allowed to say that and ironize at obvious bad takes, but that means they and their curators find that their target demographics - the most bloodfirsty and ‘patriotic’, who need to be spoken baldly with zero bs - lost connection to the government’s agenda, frustrated by it, and still don’t have a person to replace Evgeniy and somehow reignite them. Only in time of the riot he himself only once refered to ‘gramps’ who needs to leave, and now regular bloggers discuss what he said. It’s not a lifechanger, but it shows some gradual exhaustion that too hopeful people like me can call a sign.

In other news, new year would bring a rare change in minimal price of booze. If anything, I feel upping the price of the most available and usual coping mechanism may have a bigger impact than whatever he could possibly say. And this small thing is rarely talked about in comparison, for, once again, they don’t talk when they do real stuff.

RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com on 20 Dec 15:40 next collapse

Another option would have been to not invade at all, you asshole.

andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works on 21 Dec 02:50 collapse

If he could still read he’d be very angry.

x00z@lemmy.world on 20 Dec 16:04 next collapse

Most people didn’t care about Russia and respected their sovereignty. Until they disrespected that of another country.

andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works on 21 Dec 02:45 next collapse

Medvedev and Obama eating some at Mac in 2010 was the peak of russian sovereignity and power, CMV.

RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com on 21 Dec 10:47 collapse

I feel invading and killing thousands of people could be described a little harsher than “disrespectful”, but I agree. I was so relieved after the iron curtain fell and we could finally care about other things. Russia was a neighbor and a trade partner. It’ll be a long time until anyone trusts them again, no matter if the war ends next week or drags on.

Damage@feddit.it on 20 Dec 20:21 next collapse

I mean, tactically yes, it would have been more successful, but at the time he didn’t want to expend the worldwide political cost because he wasn’t completely off the rocker yet

eran_morad@lemmy.world on 21 Dec 02:51 next collapse

He should have downed a bottle of isopropanol.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 21 Dec 10:58 next collapse

Yeah, Russia is exhausted after 4 years of war.

Putin really hoped Trump would have won against Biden. So he could invade sovereign nations without US support. Now he had to stretch out the war until he got Trump back in the saddle.

boredtortoise@lemm.ee on 21 Dec 13:59 next collapse

Whoops, this contradicts the copy & paste link list of reasons why it wasn’t an invasion and totally a reasonable reaction of all the coercion by others some posters use

tired_n_bored@lemmy.world on 21 Dec 14:04 next collapse

Putin should die earlier than his natural death.

tal@lemmy.today on 21 Dec 15:06 collapse

After having invaded, is Russia more powerful, secure, and wealthy or less so than it was prior to the invasion?