UK immigration: why public opinion is at odds with reality (www.ft.com)
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MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world on 10 Aug 2024 16:05 next collapse
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TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee on 10 Aug 2024 17:10 next collapse

Because it’s a lot easier to believe a lie than realize you voted into powerful 10 years people who destroyed a massive beneficial trade and travel agreement to make billionaires just a little more billionairey.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 10 Aug 2024 20:30 next collapse

“We colonized them and they have the temerity to show up here!”

Akasazh@feddit.nl on 11 Aug 2024 15:06 collapse

Good word, temerity

Wanderer@lemm.ee on 10 Aug 2024 21:32 collapse

Yet another report that groups all immigration as one unit. Separate it by country and education level then look at crime and contributions.

“UK immigration between 1994 and 2016 found it had reduced the hourly wage of UK-born wage earners in the bottom 20 per cent of the labour market by about 0.5p per year”

That’s meant to be a good thing? That’s a huge loss over a time period where wages are expected to be going up.

Nothing about housing.

So what. One of the most densely populated (not small)countries in the world should just keep increasing its population endlessly because it’s good for numbers on a spreadsheet? There got to be more to life than increasing GDP endlessly.

Yea there a big issue with things like nursing. They don’t get paid enough. I don’t see how someone looks at nurses and says “wow they work really hard, have long hours, don’t get paid much, don’t get enough help with training. Should we fix all that? No let’s just get immigrants to suffer like that because the locals won’t”.

But have said all that. Shouldn’t it be the choice of the people? Lower immigration and less GDP growth or high immigration and high GDP growth. A lot of people in the UK would be willing to make comprises to reduce immigration legal, illegal and asylum. There is more to life than GDP.

OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world on 10 Aug 2024 22:37 collapse

Immigrants don’t cause lower wages. Lower pay causes lower wages.

Wanderer@lemm.ee on 10 Aug 2024 23:46 collapse

Supply and demand.

More supply of labour means reduced wages.

Local businesses not being able to attract local talent at low rates should mean they increase their rates, instead they find labour from elsewhere that will work for that low wages.

Wage suppression and lack of capital investment are huge underreported issues in the UK.