Brazil's top court rules US laws do not apply to its territory (www.rfi.fr)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 11:39
https://lemmy.world/post/34677764

Brazil’s Supreme Court ruled on Monday that foreign legislation did not have jurisdiction in its country, after the United States used a law to sanction a judge on the court.

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TheRealKuni@piefed.social on 19 Aug 2025 12:16 next collapse

No no, Brazil, you’re failing to understand how hegemony works. You see, we aren’t colonizing you, you’re independent. No imperialism here. But if you do something we don’t like…well, let’s just say you should do what we like.

Tujio@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 17:08 collapse

Because of the implication.

PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Aug 2025 23:52 collapse

are these sovereign nations in danger?

guy@piefed.social on 19 Aug 2025 12:33 next collapse

How could that even go to the supreme court?

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 19 Aug 2025 12:52 next collapse

According to the Constitution of Brazil, foreign court decisions “can only be enforced in Brazil upon approval or in compliance with international judicial cooperation mechanisms,” the court said.

Seems there is a mechanism for it. Probably to work with the international court of justice or something?

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 19 Aug 2025 14:37 collapse

Treaties in general that Brazil is a signatary of. The ones that legislate human rights are ranked as high as the constitution.

rammer@sopuli.xyz on 19 Aug 2025 21:53 collapse

Too bad the US is not a signatory to great many of those treaties.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 19 Aug 2025 22:47 collapse

Aparently they thought US law applied in other countries, so you can see why they were confused

marcos@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 13:44 collapse

Well, it’s the correct court to judge it.

Or you meant “how come someone even though the opposite?”

I don’t have an answer for that. There’s that guy that got a powerful position in some other country that keeps ordering that people do those nonsensical stuff, and I can’t really understand where he takes his ideas from.

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ToastedRavioli@midwest.social on 19 Aug 2025 14:26 next collapse

The basic concept of sovereignty makes this pretty clear. Its a sad day when we have to point out that the sky is, in fact, still blue

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 2025 01:31 collapse

It’s just for show. It also means BRICS is a thing. The US is finished. Now, can someone point me to cheap land in North Carolina?

icelimit@lemmy.ml on 19 Aug 2025 13:54 next collapse

Why did this even need a ruling?

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml on 19 Aug 2025 16:36 collapse

So no one tries to pull a smart one.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 23:21 collapse

Or a dumb one. Those can be even more dangerous.

CircaV@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 2025 13:55 next collapse

JFC Canada needs this - badly.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 2025 01:33 collapse

Then we’d still have a home grown defense industry with Avro Arrows in museums and not wrecking yards.

But hey, now is a uniquely unique time in history, never before have we seen such things.

CircaV@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 2025 01:47 collapse

With a federal government so much in thrall to private corporations - we’re not gonna see anything truly Canadian materialize.

peoplebeproblems@midwest.social on 19 Aug 2025 15:18 next collapse

Alright I’m confused, how did sovereignty not already prevent this?

Sturgist@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 2025 17:24 next collapse

The Americans currently in charge needed it turned into a picture book with words less than 5 letters to understand.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 2025 01:32 collapse

It’s great showmanship. It’s a lot of festive noise and music to point fun at the dying empire.

MrSilkworm@lemmy.ml on 19 Aug 2025 15:27 next collapse

usfefaultism smh! /s

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Aug 2025 00:36 collapse

I do not know what you have against fees. People need to pay rent. Even Americans.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 16:13 next collapse

lol why would they? But then again, Americans are the only country who fly their drones over your country, and use your country as a battlefield and then go home. They’re the world police. They would shit themselves if another country used the us mainland as a battlefield and had foreign drones flying around.

They’re too used to thinking they own the planet

Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz on 19 Aug 2025 18:37 collapse

Uh… The Russia? Isn’t that country doing the same in a much bigger scale, even?

Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 19:05 next collapse

The issue with the US is they use other countries as bases for their drone war.

Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz on 19 Aug 2025 19:08 collapse

Why is that a relevant difference?

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 2025 01:30 collapse

The Russia is doing it on a far smaller scale. The US does it so often it’s boring.

See: how many military bases the US has around the world. See also: how Hawai’i became a state. But The Russia bad.

Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz on 20 Aug 2025 05:47 collapse

A far smaller scale? Show me where USA has ever done something like what the Russia has done in Groznyi, Aleppo, Mariupol and Bakhmut?

When was the last time USA spent a night sending several hundred drones aimed at civilian homes? And when was the last time the Russia did not do just that?

What about the Kakhovka dam? When was the last time USA caused such devastation anywhwere at all?

I mean, I’ve been in several demonstrations against many wars waged by the US, and I most likely will attend many more, and I stopped buying US-made products when the Iraq war began. But come on, what the Russia is doing is in a whole other league compared with USA.

And of course I know about Hawaii. Just blatantly overthrowing a country’s leadership and taking over it in such modern times is apalling. But have you ever heard of Siberia? Did you know that it is nowadays a part of the Russian Federation? Ever read of that? And then, if you look at Mali, South Sudan, Belarus, Libya, Kazakhstan, and Syria, the amount of pain and horror caused for the locals because of Russian meddling in their countries has been huge. Yeah, regarding that, USA is doing very similar shit, but they do at least cause less destruction than the Russia does when doing the same.

And USA has Guantanamo, but the Russuahas twenty of those.

Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 2025 17:15 next collapse

But Russian law is apparently applicable in the United States…

Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 2025 18:28 next collapse

Yeah. That’s how being a puppet state works.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 2025 01:28 collapse

Is there a name for your condition? Any treatment possible you think?

Randomgal@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 2025 19:40 collapse

Lol

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 2025 01:28 collapse

Please name a Russian law applicable in the United States?

Also see: the ICC. Also see: The Hague Invasion Act.

Countries apply, well, ONE country, laws outside themselves all the fucking time.

NateNate60@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 2025 02:07 collapse

I’m not sure why you took them literally. They’re making a tongue-in-cheek statement about how Russian dictator Vladimir Putin is able to manipulate the American president seemingly with ease and impunity.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 18:02 next collapse

Alright everyone time to move server domains 🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone on 20 Aug 2025 01:41 next collapse

And yet nothing will ever stop Americans from coming into other nations’ subs and citing amendments that we don’t have.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 2025 06:47 collapse

Doh, but it needed to be said, yes