Russian asylum seekers expelled from US have ended up on Ukraine front (www.lemonde.fr)
from HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 09:37
https://sh.itjust.works/post/51390026

Deported from the United States and then immediately dispatched to the front lines by Russia. Such was the fate of several Russian nationals who, after being detained and put on a plane in Arizona on Monday, December 8, eventually landed in Moscow on Tuesday, December 9, after a stopover in Cairo.

According to the independent Russian media outlet Mediazona, 64 Russian passengers were on board. The authorities have provided no information about their current status. However, several of them received military draft notices as soon as they arrived, the first step toward likely deployment to the front in Ukraine. The information was confirmed by the group Russian America for Democracy in Russia (RADR), an advocacy group established in the US by opponents to the Kremlin.

The only official statement from Moscow came after the plane landed: The Office of the Prosecutor General announced the arrest of Zair Saimullin, age 69, who was charged with fraud and whose extradition from the US had been requested by Russia. According to RADR, he was likely on board the flight from Cairo.

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ms_lane@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 11:28 next collapse

Hopefully they can surrender to Ukraine.

slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works on 11 Dec 11:47 next collapse

Now I’m curious as how Ukraine handles asylum seekers from Russia. Do they consider them too much of a risk to draft them? I mean, obviously going from one country at war to another doesn’t solve many of the issues, but I’m curious as to how this would affect their risk of bbeing drafted.

Makhno@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 13:35 collapse

Theres an entire unit of Russians fighting alongside Ukrainian forces

slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works on 12 Dec 00:04 collapse

That’s a good point, as having russian-only units sorts out some of the issues I guess. That wasn’t really ehat I was thinking about though. I get that there are lots of russians opposing the government strongly enough to be willing to fight against them. I was wondering about military age draft dodgers, but I guess they have civilian service for any people unwilling to fight.

philpo@feddit.org on 11 Dec 21:31 collapse

Considering most(2/3-90% depemding on the sources) Ruzzians are killed by drones and artillery these days and the Russians take care of making sure none can surrender their chances are grim.

scholar@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 22:32 collapse

Did you really just mix a fraction and a percentage in the same statistic? You monster.

philpo@feddit.org on 11 Dec 23:01 collapse

Yeah. Sorry. I have PFTT: Post fraction tutoring trauma. I had to tutor three teen kids math for four hours today. Kid and their friend write a test today. I will see fractions and percentages tonight in my nightmares.

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Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 13:09 collapse

They’re just people man, come on.

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Makhno@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 13:35 next collapse

I consider you a dumb cunt

Duranie@leminal.space on 11 Dec 13:35 next collapse

How many Russians have you met and had a conversation with?

devolution@lemmy.world on 11 Dec 13:38 collapse

Plenty

NotSteve_@piefed.ca on 11 Dec 14:55 collapse

The same could be said about Americans because of people like you

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BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 11 Dec 12:53 collapse

They don’t seem like they’d make the most motivated soldiers. I doubt I’d want to be deployed to a war zone with one of these guys next to me.

vas@lemmy.ml on 11 Dec 20:54 collapse

If you know the details of this war, you know that the Russian military is not driven by “motivation”. Instead, it’s beatings, threats of death, humiliation etc.