Budapest goes 'Gray Pride' as protesters in muted tones mock Pride ban law
(www.lemonde.fr)
from solo@slrpnk.net to world@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 08:51
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from solo@slrpnk.net to world@lemmy.world on 15 Apr 08:51
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On Monday, the parliament is set to vote on a constitutional amendment that would strengthen the legal foundations for the prohibition of the Pride march. Waving gray flags, including rainbow flags turned monochromatic, more than 10,000 people joined the humourous demonstration with a serious cause in Budapest on Saturday.
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Fuck yea. Now take down that piece of shit prime minister.
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I’m constantly amazed that people are still fighting this fight in the world. Here in the UK I’m getting fed up of regular pride marches because I’m pretty sure “they won” like the fight should be over. Apart from a handful of bigots but there’s no stopping that.
It’s crazy to me that this is still an actual thing in some parts of the world. What century is this?
queer rights don’t stop at marriage equality. we’re never gonna “win” as long as people reduce LGBTQIA+ to only the LGB rights
Sometimes a march is not a fight but a celebration solely because they can.
And besides, stopping to march because ‘officially’ everything is fine, may be a bit premature. Similar to women rights, who are officially equal but discrimination still persists today, the LGTBQ+ scene has lots of discrimination left to combat.
That’s extremely ignorant, especially in the UK where trans people are treated so poorly a woman has been granted asylum in New Zealand over it.
Holy fuck why does that never get a mention? That’s actually shocking.
If they report ever being on the receiving end of a slur, that counts. Kind of like the “x% of women will be sexually assaulted”, technically I (male) would also report as being sexually assaulted because one time a girl grabbed my ass in passing at a party. It’s a very broad category.
If someone grabbed my ass at a party, I would count that as sexual assault. Idk what ur going for here, just cuz you don’t mind doesn’t mean it shouldn’t count
Yeah that’s my point. It is counted as sexual assault, and that broad definition is what makes the number so high, just like the “1 in 5” figure we were talking about. When the criteria are so broad, it shouldn’t be that shocking.
Maybe you're not being told for some sort of specific reason that may or may not end with -phobia. Might make you want to re-think whether "they won" or not.
Edit: Also Pride happens once a year, maybe get over it? This is the same energy as the Americans that want to end Black History Month. Do you tell your mom you're tired of Mothers Day?
Things going on in the USA right now should be a reminder that just because there are gains, that doesn’t mean they can’t be reversed. Continued celebrations highlighting visibility are still needed, outside of just the fact that they’re also just allowed to celebrate their community.
When we have elected members of parliament having made homophobic comments on camera, the fight is far from over.
Pride is also not really about who “won” or “lost.” It’s a celebration of the culture and a reminder of the struggles of the past. Plenty of groups hold parades around the US for similar reasons.
And even without that it should continue to ensure visibility. So that a kid from a small village with five age peers knows that they might be the odd one out in their village, but they’re not alone. A place large enough to have a parade is large enough to have a (semi-)dedicated bar, and vice versa.
Yeah and the Irish won in America, we decided to keep their parade
I think I kinda get what you mean. It’s so backwards that it is still necessary and that it is still a fight that has to be “won”. Personally I am not bothered or in any way opposed to gay rights, trans rights etc. so I personally do not need “convincing”. But I am not everyone. There are many parts of society that have little to no respect for LGBTQIA+.
In Norway a pretty liberal place, most of the population support gay rights, but there are especially a large portion amongst certain religious and minority groups that do not approve.
The fight is not over. It is not equally acceptable to be gay as hetero, or trans as cis. The fight is not over in most of the world.
Even in one of the most liberal countries in the world it is not actually equal.
The US has in a couple of months launched numerous attacks on the LGBTQIA+ community, and by protesting / marching we support those that need it. We show that they are not alone, and that those outside the community also protect them and wish them well.
I am personally a cishet man, but I also march with my wife. It takes maybe a couple of hours of my life every year, and it means a lot to the community to have all the support it can get.
I encourage you to participate as well. If not, consider staying neutral or verbally supportive. Your comment makes it seem like you disregard their continued struggle, but I think you are just trying to convey that it’s absurd that its still necessary, which I agree that it is 😊
I think it’s actually really great to march in liberal countries to support communities from less tolerant places. In this interconnected world, it makes sense to support each other across the borders.
Except they didn’t win, and lgbt laws frequently slide back. You just don’t like gay people.
When you loosen your grip, sand slips away one grain at a time.
I think I’ve been misunderstood here.
It’s the flood of “reddit leftists” (read right wingers)
The fight is never ending though because that just lets the other side catch up
Not sure how else this is suppose to be interpreted. Even if it’s just a handful of bigots, those bigots have the resources to signal boost themselves and have the ears of politicians.
I sort of meant that I was unaware of any systemic issues that could still be fought for here.
I’ve never even been to the UK and I know that’s wrong.
For starters. en.wikipedia.org/…/Anti-transgender_movement_in_t…
Also, just see who J. K. Rowling keeps company with.
It’s too late, I’ve depicted you as the soyjack.
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Like they have all the same rights as everyone else and it’s illegal to discriminate based on that. I don’t know what else can be done.
I’ve since learned that I’m somehow wrong and it’s encouraged here.
Bro literally called another country bigoted and said “what century is this?” when he lives in one of the most bigoted countries in the whole world. While i admit hungary has a lot of problems, growing up here is pretty rough, somehow the uk is still worse. Yall have horrible right wingers but the thing is the uk left is also shit. Even in hungary the left at least stands up to queer people. What century is this?
When your government says " We are okay with someone demonstrate killing kids, and starving 2million people to death" I think you should know to move before they come for you…