I wouldn’t consider a country that cannot manage its own power supply “successful.” I suspect the US would be more willing to help if Cuba stopped being a one-party authoritarian state that sides with America’s geopolitical enemies, namely Russia.
Edit: Yes, Texas sucks as a country. They aren’t one but would be a failed nation if they tried. They aren’t even a very good US state as far as states go. Your Texas argument just supports my statement above even harder.
Edit 2: Cuban grid operators are blaming an influx of air conditioning units (residential & business) as being the stressor that brought down the grid. This story does not jive well with those here arguing the problem is US trade policy regarding the island nation. Cuba did not run out of oil. It can get equipment to operate the grid. Heck, Turkey send Cuba seven mobile power plants to assist the grid. None of it is working because Cuba has a serious brain drain issue. Educated people leave Cuba. The grid likely failed because the people keeping it running left the country.
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on 19 Oct 05:53
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I wouldn't consider a country that cannot manage its own power supply "successful."
I mean admittedly I don't know much about Cuba other than that they're being blockades but if they can't get oil because of America's blockade that's not really their fault.
I suspect the US would be more willing to help if Cuba stopped being a one-party authoritarian state that sides with America's geopolitical enemies, namely Russia.
It's not about helping; it's about not essentially forbidding the rest of the developed world from trading with them.
I wouldn’t consider a country that cannot manage its own power supply “successful.”
Like, dunno, the US? Over here we don’t have a word for “brownout” and don’t get me started on Texas.
I’d be eating popcorn over here in Europe if I wasn’t busy facepalming. The US is enforcing secondary sanctions on Cuban gas imports for buying from Venezuela while making no such moves for Russian energy exports. The US is enforcing crippling sanctions on Cuba while being chaps with Vietnam. It’s plain as day that the US’ approach to Cuba has nothing to do with the stated policies but Cuba daring to declare independence, not willing to be a banana republic. They got over the domino theory (which made them intervene in Vietnam), they never got over Bacardi and United Fruit (nowadays Chiquita) losing their slaves. That’s where the term “banana republic” comes from, btw: Chiquita’s slave plantations.
Heck, the US is perfectly willing to shoot themselves into the foot over cigars: A couple of years ago someone in the Eurozone ordered Cuban cigars from a Danish trader, all perfectly legal. Because that involves two different currencies the banks needed to convert stuff, and standard practice between the banks involved happened to be to clear everything via USD. The Americans intercepted the payment, the whole thing made the press over here, and the EU instituted regulations to stop banks from clearing via USD, which they started to do way before the regulations came into effect because they didn’t want to deal with that kind of pettiness, either. Lest you think the US cares about the status of the USD as reserve currency, evidently stopping some random European from smoking Cuban cigars is more important.
It’s pathetic. The US is acting like a spoiled brat miffed that it can’t light the neighbour’s dog on fire so they’re buying up all the shelters in the neighbourhood and setting those on fire. That’s the approximate level of maturity on display, here.
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How’s that communism working out for them?
ML will just complain about sanctions and send you a bunch of random links
Maybe this blackout will make it clear for them. If an oligarchy wasn’t the way to go, we wouldn’t be winning so hard.
You are not even wining.
The only thing I’m losing at is sarcasm, I clearly didn’t get my point across.
Who’s “we”? Surely you don’t mean the USA?
I’m being sarcastic, hence my use of the word oligarchy. I fully mean the united states.
Gotcha. I didn’t catch the sarcasm first time around but it makes total sense now
In Cuha it's not even about communism; it's about being way too close to a global superpower who is also your enemy.
Idk, compaired to USA they have free healthcare, legal abortion and:
IDK if that says more about cuba being good or the US being bad 🤷♀️🤷♂️🤷
Ya but do they have electricity? Seems not.
Add home ownership rates to the list. Actually, if you look at home ownership rates across the world, certain patterns start to emerge.
because a successful alternative to capitalism cannot be tolerated.
I wouldn’t consider a country that cannot manage its own power supply “successful.” I suspect the US would be more willing to help if Cuba stopped being a one-party authoritarian state that sides with America’s geopolitical enemies, namely Russia.
Edit: Yes, Texas sucks as a country. They aren’t one but would be a failed nation if they tried. They aren’t even a very good US state as far as states go. Your Texas argument just supports my statement above even harder.
Edit 2: Cuban grid operators are blaming an influx of air conditioning units (residential & business) as being the stressor that brought down the grid. This story does not jive well with those here arguing the problem is US trade policy regarding the island nation. Cuba did not run out of oil. It can get equipment to operate the grid. Heck, Turkey send Cuba seven mobile power plants to assist the grid. None of it is working because Cuba has a serious brain drain issue. Educated people leave Cuba. The grid likely failed because the people keeping it running left the country.
I mean admittedly I don't know much about Cuba other than that they're being blockades but if they can't get oil because of America's blockade that's not really their fault.
It's not about helping; it's about not essentially forbidding the rest of the developed world from trading with them.
Years of middling and attempt to disrupt their live, then people say “look at these un-civilized people” and “it is a failed state”
The fail state is the one where kids go to school with high risk of getting shot.
The fail state is the one where people dont fear losing their entire saving for medical emergency.
The fail state is the one that completely controlled by a foreign lobby group.
It's telling that I didn't know which country you were talking about until I looked at the parent comment.
texas is unsuccessful then, and as a result the US is an unsuccessful country?
I don’t like many things about the US but I wouldn’t call the country itself unsuccessful
Meanwhile in Iran and China…
The U.S. doesn’t need to help, they just need to stop hindering, as I understand it.
Like, dunno, the US? Over here we don’t have a word for “brownout” and don’t get me started on Texas.
I’d be eating popcorn over here in Europe if I wasn’t busy facepalming. The US is enforcing secondary sanctions on Cuban gas imports for buying from Venezuela while making no such moves for Russian energy exports. The US is enforcing crippling sanctions on Cuba while being chaps with Vietnam. It’s plain as day that the US’ approach to Cuba has nothing to do with the stated policies but Cuba daring to declare independence, not willing to be a banana republic. They got over the domino theory (which made them intervene in Vietnam), they never got over Bacardi and United Fruit (nowadays Chiquita) losing their slaves. That’s where the term “banana republic” comes from, btw: Chiquita’s slave plantations.
Heck, the US is perfectly willing to shoot themselves into the foot over cigars: A couple of years ago someone in the Eurozone ordered Cuban cigars from a Danish trader, all perfectly legal. Because that involves two different currencies the banks needed to convert stuff, and standard practice between the banks involved happened to be to clear everything via USD. The Americans intercepted the payment, the whole thing made the press over here, and the EU instituted regulations to stop banks from clearing via USD, which they started to do way before the regulations came into effect because they didn’t want to deal with that kind of pettiness, either. Lest you think the US cares about the status of the USD as reserve currency, evidently stopping some random European from smoking Cuban cigars is more important.
It’s pathetic. The US is acting like a spoiled brat miffed that it can’t light the neighbour’s dog on fire so they’re buying up all the shelters in the neighbourhood and setting those on fire. That’s the approximate level of maturity on display, here.