Posting some polemic kneejerk reactionary comments about Murica in threads that are not about America is not going to reduce deaths in America. It only derails the actual topic with Americentrism that other people will just perceive as rude.
My guy, how do you think peoples’ opinions on national issues shift over the years…?
… The answer: By the aggregation of conversations like this. Connecting dots to parallel events to exemplify what could’ve been — what other time is a viable time to have that conversation, at the dinner table…?
There really is nothing wrong here; there really is nothing rude here. The user is using satire and sarcasm to indicate that UK has more fruitful laws than America. if anything, it’s raising UK up and pointing out our stupid American shit. This is a public forum well within the rules — again, what is wrong with that?
The only thing I can conceive is that there are pro-gun folks on here who’d rather suppress this dialogue. They are quite literally the only ones who would object to not having the uncomfortable conversation about firearms in America and saving lives.
This has nothing to do with parallel events since the UK and the US have vastly different laws & regulations (or lack thereof). And Americans constantly - and I really mean constantly - trying to interject their own politics into foreign topics that has nothing to do with them, trying to make the topic about them, is nothing but annoying at this point.
The only thing I can conceive is that there are pro-gun folks on here who'd rather suppress this dialogue.
Then you're simply tone deaf because there's not a whole lot of pro-gun folks in Europe either. But keep on making your own shit up with whatever mental gymnastics you need to make yourself feel better in reaffirming your little confirmation bias. This is, unfortunately, just proving my point though, since you completely ignore what I'm saying and continue to try to make this about you.
This has nothing to do with parallel events since the UK and the US have vastly different laws & regulations (or lack thereof).
Yes, that is precisely my point — can’t you see? Let me attempt to spell it out:
A parallel event occurs in the UK that is common in the US: a mass casualty homicidal rampage.
We (what we learn in English composition) Compare-and-Contrast in order to learn
We take what we’ve compared-and-contrasted, and we improve.
What you seem to suggest is that comparing and contrasting is off-limits on public forums for some inane reason.
And Americans constantly - and I really mean constantly - trying to interject their own politics into foreign topics that has nothing to do with them, trying to make the topic about them, is nothing but annoying at this point.
For better or worse, Americans have a massive influence on the world stage. We are the Rome of this era. What happens in America often impacts the globe, again for better or worse. Considering this is an open community that has many Americans on here, I fail to see the issue. Like, why are you so hellbent on suppressing a conversation about improving something for Americans? This has zero impact on what happens in the UK; we’re simply contrasting experiments in other countries to see what works, and what doesn’t.
This is all in the name of improvement, and I’ll be damned if anyone tries to suggest there’s something taboo about that.
This is, unfortunately, just proving my point though, since you completely ignore what I’m saying and continue to try to make this about you.
Again, your opening sentence outright proves you are completely ignoring my point.
BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network
on 01 May 10:04
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“Thoughts and prayers” seems to have crossed the pond. I genuinely hope they are more useful over there, because they are absolutely worthless here and usually indicate that nothing of consequence will be done about the matter.
lennybird@lemmy.world
on 30 Apr 20:36
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Either everyone got whooshed by your sarcasm and underlying point or there are more gun lubbers on here than I thought.
If anyone directly subjected to the tragedy were here I might be inclined to agree, but this isn’t the funeral. So personally I think it’s a great time to connect the dots between this event, and what could’ve been had the lethal effectiveness of the shooter been elevated. With the goal in mind to mitigate future tragedies, I see nothing tone deaf about it. I see it as very productive.
I mean really, what else are we supposed to talk about in these comments…?
King Charles III said his thoughts and prayers were with the family of the young victim, and he saluted the courage of emergency workers, Buckingham Palace said.
"King Charles III" still sounds so weird to me. The last story I ran across with his name in it was about either Ireland or Scotland, I can't remember which, and it took me longer than I care to admit to realize it wasn't some sly Jacobite comment.
rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de
on 30 Apr 17:46
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What kind of sword?
ChuggingPus@lemmynsfw.com
on 01 May 16:10
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This many victims they still call a ‘mass’ shooting over here. It gets more clicks and you all buy it because everyone loves a chance to point out what they do better than the big kid in the room.
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A sword, Mal!
How weird is that?
I haven’t thought of this in ages, thank you.
See! SWORDS also kill people! Even though he could have killed that entire boys family plus a couple more with a gun, I DON’T CARE! PRO LIFE!
Please keep your Murica shit in Murica. Thank you.
I feel like he was being sarcastic
Irrelevant.
is it, though?
It's stupid Murica shit either way, so yes, it is.
I’d venture a guess the majority of users here are American and just trying to solve our stupid American shit.
If you don’t care, then just ignore. If you do care about reducing deaths in America, then let these conversations play out.
Posting some polemic kneejerk reactionary comments about Murica in threads that are not about America is not going to reduce deaths in America. It only derails the actual topic with Americentrism that other people will just perceive as rude.
My guy, how do you think peoples’ opinions on national issues shift over the years…?
… The answer: By the aggregation of conversations like this. Connecting dots to parallel events to exemplify what could’ve been — what other time is a viable time to have that conversation, at the dinner table…?
There really is nothing wrong here; there really is nothing rude here. The user is using satire and sarcasm to indicate that UK has more fruitful laws than America. if anything, it’s raising UK up and pointing out our stupid American shit. This is a public forum well within the rules — again, what is wrong with that?
The only thing I can conceive is that there are pro-gun folks on here who’d rather suppress this dialogue. They are quite literally the only ones who would object to not having the uncomfortable conversation about firearms in America and saving lives.
This has nothing to do with parallel events since the UK and the US have vastly different laws & regulations (or lack thereof). And Americans constantly - and I really mean constantly - trying to interject their own politics into foreign topics that has nothing to do with them, trying to make the topic about them, is nothing but annoying at this point.
Then you're simply tone deaf because there's not a whole lot of pro-gun folks in Europe either. But keep on making your own shit up with whatever mental gymnastics you need to make yourself feel better in reaffirming your little confirmation bias. This is, unfortunately, just proving my point though, since you completely ignore what I'm saying and continue to try to make this about you.
Yes, that is precisely my point — can’t you see? Let me attempt to spell it out:
What you seem to suggest is that comparing and contrasting is off-limits on public forums for some inane reason.
For better or worse, Americans have a massive influence on the world stage. We are the Rome of this era. What happens in America often impacts the globe, again for better or worse. Considering this is an open community that has many Americans on here, I fail to see the issue. Like, why are you so hellbent on suppressing a conversation about improving something for Americans? This has zero impact on what happens in the UK; we’re simply contrasting experiments in other countries to see what works, and what doesn’t.
This is all in the name of improvement, and I’ll be damned if anyone tries to suggest there’s something taboo about that.
Again, your opening sentence outright proves you are completely ignoring my point.
This has devolved to Shit Americans Say and is definitely too dense for me wanting to continue. Have a nice day.
Fair enough, you as well.
“Thoughts and prayers” seems to have crossed the pond. I genuinely hope they are more useful over there, because they are absolutely worthless here and usually indicate that nothing of consequence will be done about the matter.
Either everyone got whooshed by your sarcasm and underlying point or there are more gun lubbers on here than I thought.
I don’t think so, the comment is just a little tone deaf to the tragedy.
If anyone directly subjected to the tragedy were here I might be inclined to agree, but this isn’t the funeral. So personally I think it’s a great time to connect the dots between this event, and what could’ve been had the lethal effectiveness of the shooter been elevated. With the goal in mind to mitigate future tragedies, I see nothing tone deaf about it. I see it as very productive.
I mean really, what else are we supposed to talk about in these comments…?
Nah, talking about it is fine. It’s how they did it. I don’t give a shit either way, I was just making an observation.
What was wrong with how they said it?
I’d rather be shot than killed with a sword, tbh.
Hmm almost as if, swords, like guns, are weapons made to kill things.
He got it wrong. Kill the father, wound the boy. Then he grows up and hunts you down with a catch phrase he’s prepared for the occasion.
Just ensure you have an odd number of fingers before initiating.
Holds up five fingers
But I already do!
"King Charles III" still sounds so weird to me. The last story I ran across with his name in it was about either Ireland or Scotland, I can't remember which, and it took me longer than I care to admit to realize it wasn't some sly Jacobite comment.
What kind of sword?
Samurai.
Guys come on, a fucking kid was murdered. At least try to be respectful.
They got the attacker alive at least. He’s in for a bad time.
Good.
I don’t want to undercut the tragedy of lost life here, but I pity people doing HEMA fencing or similar hobbies in UK.
As I understand it the government was already stupid about some anti-sword/knife laws and this won’t help…
Swords are already pretty regulated in the UK last I learnt about this topic. Matt Easton from Schola Gladiatoria has a video on it somewhere
Yeah, Matt Easton is why I know about it. My point being, if they were paranoid about swords before, what will they do now
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I thought cops wearing chainmail was ridiculous, but maybe London police should have something like this:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.institute/pictrs/image/557de12f-b18a-4297-83e7-4632fe1d6f8d.jpeg">
It's about as ridiculous as wearing plate carriers against firearms.
What the fuck man.
Oh look! Another mass shooting in Amer-
Wooosh!
This many victims they still call a ‘mass’ shooting over here. It gets more clicks and you all buy it because everyone loves a chance to point out what they do better than the big kid in the room.
Removed, civility.