Not quite go back where you came from but if the US is paying for it what is the problem?
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
on 19 May 10:52
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There isn’t an emergency. These are racists kicking our brown people who are following the law (ICE wouldn’t be camping outside of immigration courts to abduct people if they actually wanted those breaking the law) and letting in white people just to rub it in.
dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world
on 19 May 11:08
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It’s using US taxpayers’ money. The US isn’t paying for it, their taxpayers are.
because they don’t need refugee status. They’re utilizing this as loop hole to circumvent proper methods of immigration. you know like the people who literally pay thousands of dollars to properly immigrate to the US. These people aren’t fleeing anything remotely close to an emergency or crisis they’re simply immigrating while saving a few bucks in the process.
This is also a very easy way for the current administration to bring in more white people who share the same views and opinions of said administration. it’s text book fascism. kick out the colored bring in the right white.
Well, when money is speech, that one is the loudest voice in the room.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 19 May 21:21
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They are not refugees, they should immigrate the normal (expensive) way like everyone else and not get a free ride on the American tax payer’s dollar. Especially when we have, what, 30,000 refugees from south of the border living in warehouses awaiting a chance to legally immigrate. 50,000? 100,000? Probably even more than that.
They’re escaping South Africa with fortunes made by exploiting the people of South Africa and will suffer no consequences in the US. They stand at least some chance of being punished in their own country (even more so if they’re running like this, seems like they can feel the noose tightening), and their money would stay in South Africa to help the country in such a case instead of disappearing into the offshore haven of the US.
They’re friends of people like Musk and Trump, and allowing them to more easily use their money to affect American policy will be worse not just for the US, but the world at large. Letting people with experience running an apartheid regime into the politics of a belligerent war hungry government who has already threatened numerous friendly countries over resources cannot end well.
tiny_hedgehog@piefed.social
on 19 May 15:00
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As a South African I can confirm there is zero emergency here. As usual, Trump just prattles off whatever lies fits his needs.
The problem is that we have quite literally cut off refugees from every other country, including places that actually need it. These people are fleeing a made up crisis.
They accuse Dems of bussing in voters, God forbid we give anyone a ride to where they need to be? Here they are actually flying in and importing Republican voters from foreign countries and we’re supposed to be just fine with it because the Republican party is the respectable party of patriots lmao. I hate these fucking assholes.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 19 May 12:20
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I mean now we’re just in fantasy land. No one has offered the option to buy citizenship like that. Trump offered to let people buy green cards or whatever fancy name he gave them (still a green card).
After that it takes at minimum 5 years. No indication that is being sped up in any way for anyone. It’s not even possible to speed it up under current law, not that the administration wouldn’t try. But in this case they’ve given no indication of doing so.
etherphon@piefed.world
on 19 May 19:41
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Yeah buddy, you said it, we’re in fantasy land lol. Seems like we have been since this dipshit got elected yet again. Some day we’ll come back to reality.
I just don’t understand the need to fantasize about things that have not happened and that have no indication they will happen when we already have a mountain of very real problems occurring
I’m just going by the MOA of this administration so far, which has been for profit on everything, so you have to admit it’s not like it’s out of left field. It’s almost certain those people paid money. Do I have proof? No. But it stinks so it should be thoroughly investigated which it won’t anytime soon.
The green card thing was really just a pathetic attempt to collect revenue since taxes have been slashed to untenable levels. Wealthy people wouldn’t even want citizenship. They vote with money, not with ballots.
Not that these Boers are really rich or anything and there’s not enough of them to effect voting even if they could. This is virtue signalling to white supremacists. In fact I’d bet a lot of them will leave soon or end up homeless. They’re being brought in without any plans or preparation and no job opportunities waiting for them. Their usefulness to the Trump admin is merely as a photo prop and then they’re on their own.
But oh well sucks to suck. Hope you all end up homeless back in South Africa too because a black family moved into your house while you were gone.
Using the max number from the article of 17,500 people, that’s not enough to make any real difference. Maybe if they went through a major effort to settle them in one or two close congressional districts.
Also they can’t vote for at least 5 years after they arrive assuming they all rush to get their citizenship.
DaleGribble88@programming.dev
on 20 May 01:57
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Agreed, we don’t know that they are racist. Like most anywhere, you are very likely to find a mix of both racist, anti-racist, and everyone in between. However, given relatively recent historical context, they are likely to have a higher proportion of racists with a higher degree of severity.
Man, I watched The Second Civil War for the first time a couple months ago, and thought it was kind of an interesting take on what issues might be prevalent today. I thought the mass immigration of certain groups to appease political groups seemed a little far fetched though. I guess nothing is satire anymore. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Civil_War
I recently watched that movie. I liked the part where a news reporter has a freak out and says there is no other news. This is how they should be reacting to current events
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org
on 19 May 18:34
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i mean, this could be seen as a good thing, as a sort of late decolonization? if he gets the white people (which are all descendants of colonizers) out of south africa.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
on 19 May 19:52
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Not really, if we accept that premise then it’s just furthering colonization of a different place.
sportsjorts@lemmy.zip
on 19 May 19:25
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Gross.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
on 19 May 20:24
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That’s exactly what we need… ffs.
Reminder for anyone who doesn’t know, it’s highly likely that the Q account on 8chan was a white South Afrikaner before the account was highjacked by Ron Watkins and his father Jim Watkins (owners of the image board). Allegedly.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
on 20 May 00:31
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America is having an emergency president situation
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
on 20 May 00:33
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I wonder how they will get to vote. Hmmm.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today
on 20 May 01:16
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These neo-confederates will make for shitty soldiers. The world will be better someday, once their plots are filled and promptly forgotten.
TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works
on 20 May 01:45
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Please publish their names and addresses so that we, their new neighbors, may properly welcome them.
100% none of them are vetted.
Their bank accounts and political ideology datapoints were, I guarantee it.
Not quite go back where you came from but if the US is paying for it what is the problem?
There isn’t an emergency. These are racists kicking our brown people who are following the law (ICE wouldn’t be camping outside of immigration courts to abduct people if they actually wanted those breaking the law) and letting in white people just to rub it in.
It’s using US taxpayers’ money. The US isn’t paying for it, their taxpayers are.
because they don’t need refugee status. They’re utilizing this as loop hole to circumvent proper methods of immigration. you know like the people who literally pay thousands of dollars to properly immigrate to the US. These people aren’t fleeing anything remotely close to an emergency or crisis they’re simply immigrating while saving a few bucks in the process.
This is also a very easy way for the current administration to bring in more white people who share the same views and opinions of said administration. it’s text book fascism. kick out the colored bring in the right white.
And why should South Africa have to put up with these shitheads? Let them fuck off to fascist America.
Fuck off, man, we already have too many racist shitbags grown domestic. South Africa needs to keep theirs right where they grew 'em.
So much for the free racist market 😔
It’s a great time to invest, I say.
Because they’re South Africans?
You do realize that the current (semi)nonorganic rise in fascism has been pushed/funded by South African Nazis living here right? Fuck em
There are multiple? Thought it was just the 1
Well, when money is speech, that one is the loudest voice in the room.
They are not refugees, they should immigrate the normal (expensive) way like everyone else and not get a free ride on the American tax payer’s dollar. Especially when we have, what, 30,000 refugees from south of the border living in warehouses awaiting a chance to legally immigrate. 50,000? 100,000? Probably even more than that.
They’re escaping South Africa with fortunes made by exploiting the people of South Africa and will suffer no consequences in the US. They stand at least some chance of being punished in their own country (even more so if they’re running like this, seems like they can feel the noose tightening), and their money would stay in South Africa to help the country in such a case instead of disappearing into the offshore haven of the US.
They’re friends of people like Musk and Trump, and allowing them to more easily use their money to affect American policy will be worse not just for the US, but the world at large. Letting people with experience running an apartheid regime into the politics of a belligerent war hungry government who has already threatened numerous friendly countries over resources cannot end well.
As a South African I can confirm there is zero emergency here. As usual, Trump just prattles off whatever lies fits his needs.
The problem is that we have quite literally cut off refugees from every other country, including places that actually need it. These people are fleeing a made up crisis.
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g89kkvenqo
(As of April, so obviously more SA refugees now)
Like we need any more stupid white people in this country. (I’m white.)
I might be wrong but dropping 10k more white fascists in the USA is just a drop in an (half full) bucket
So they’re importing a bunch of racists from South Africa. Who will vote for fascist Rs. Isn’t that what they accuse Ds of doing?
Every accusation …
They accuse Dems of bussing in voters, God forbid we give anyone a ride to where they need to be? Here they are actually flying in and importing Republican voters from foreign countries and we’re supposed to be just fine with it because the Republican party is the respectable party of patriots lmao. I hate these fucking assholes.
Agreed it’s ridiculous.
I’m more interested in how many of these people are winding up working for ICE.
Yikes, hadn’t thought of that too. As if we need to import racists.
Not just racists but racists with tribal knowledge concerning the implementation and maintenance of Apartheid.
How long does it take to go through the refugee process to become a citizen? They can’t vote until then, right?
Good questions, I would suspect these folks are getting expedited service for their “donations”.
I mean now we’re just in fantasy land. No one has offered the option to buy citizenship like that. Trump offered to let people buy green cards or whatever fancy name he gave them (still a green card).
After that it takes at minimum 5 years. No indication that is being sped up in any way for anyone. It’s not even possible to speed it up under current law, not that the administration wouldn’t try. But in this case they’ve given no indication of doing so.
Yeah buddy, you said it, we’re in fantasy land lol. Seems like we have been since this dipshit got elected yet again. Some day we’ll come back to reality.
I just don’t understand the need to fantasize about things that have not happened and that have no indication they will happen when we already have a mountain of very real problems occurring
I’m just going by the MOA of this administration so far, which has been for profit on everything, so you have to admit it’s not like it’s out of left field. It’s almost certain those people paid money. Do I have proof? No. But it stinks so it should be thoroughly investigated which it won’t anytime soon.
The green card thing was really just a pathetic attempt to collect revenue since taxes have been slashed to untenable levels. Wealthy people wouldn’t even want citizenship. They vote with money, not with ballots.
Not that these Boers are really rich or anything and there’s not enough of them to effect voting even if they could. This is virtue signalling to white supremacists. In fact I’d bet a lot of them will leave soon or end up homeless. They’re being brought in without any plans or preparation and no job opportunities waiting for them. Their usefulness to the Trump admin is merely as a photo prop and then they’re on their own.
But oh well sucks to suck. Hope you all end up homeless back in South Africa too because a black family moved into your house while you were gone.
It used to be 10 years after you got green card.
They’re not sending their best.
Using the max number from the article of 17,500 people, that’s not enough to make any real difference. Maybe if they went through a major effort to settle them in one or two close congressional districts.
Also they can’t vote for at least 5 years after they arrive assuming they all rush to get their citizenship.
But would they even be eligible to vote?
Sure, if they speed up the naturalization process for them
Yikes
Why are they racist?
Agreed, we don’t know that they are racist. Like most anywhere, you are very likely to find a mix of both racist, anti-racist, and everyone in between. However, given relatively recent historical context, they are likely to have a higher proportion of racists with a higher degree of severity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid
Elon’s slow walk invasion. Part of a side agreement he and trump have. Everyone step right up! We’re selling it all!!
The real winners in all of this are the people of South Africa who no longer have to deal with these racist pieces of shit
Yes. Thank you for taking them from us. Some of you may be exposed to bigotry, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.
jdpon don strikes again by helping south africa’s decolonization efforts 🫡
/j
They’re not sending their best
Man, I watched The Second Civil War for the first time a couple months ago, and thought it was kind of an interesting take on what issues might be prevalent today. I thought the mass immigration of certain groups to appease political groups seemed a little far fetched though. I guess nothing is satire anymore. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_Civil_War
I recently watched that movie. I liked the part where a news reporter has a freak out and says there is no other news. This is how they should be reacting to current events
i mean, this could be seen as a good thing, as a sort of late decolonization? if he gets the white people (which are all descendants of colonizers) out of south africa.
Not really, if we accept that premise then it’s just furthering colonization of a different place.
Gross.
That’s exactly what we need… ffs.
Reminder for anyone who doesn’t know, it’s highly likely that the Q account on 8chan was a white South Afrikaner before the account was highjacked by Ron Watkins and his father Jim Watkins (owners of the image board). Allegedly.
America is having an emergency president situation
I wonder how they will get to vote. Hmmm.
These neo-confederates will make for shitty soldiers. The world will be better someday, once their plots are filled and promptly forgotten.
But he’s not racist
Musk’s new Braun shirt army.
I hear that Alligator Alcatraz is available!