RangerJosie@sffa.community
on 17 Aug 2024 18:44
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That genocidal lunatic doesn’t need a reason.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 18:48
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If Israel can build an international coalition to genocide Palestinians, why can’t they instead build an international coalition to provide electricity and water to the Palestinian communities? Again with this tunnels hasbara shit.
Don_Dickle@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 18:52
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Because in my opinion the international community is generraly lazy. Supplying arms is easy. Making wars is easy. Helping people who really need that is a little bit more difficult. So the world would rather waste money on arms than help. While it may work in the short run the little bit more difficult thing would be long lasting and save countries trillions.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 18:57
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Yeah I was simply making the point about Israel being the primary cause for this conflict using the uncited and perhaps made up quote from the article.
“If Hezbollah can build tunnels, why can’t they provide electricity and water to their communities?”
The tunnels made or perhaps not made by HamasHouthi Hezbollah are always used as a reason to bomb.
Atin@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 23:56
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If the tunnels are used for military purposes then that is a reason to bomb them. That goes for any place. If they use a hospital as a weapons cache, that hospital becomes a legitimate target. Same if it is a mosque, a school etc. Using civilians as human shields is in itself a war crime.
Zorque@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 00:10
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I suppose one war crime is worth another then, right?
FelixCress@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 07:01
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If the tunnels are used for military purposes then that is a reason to bomb them
Like any military would do no matter what the country. Using the tunnels to move weapons literally makes them a legitimate military target. Perhaps you need to read up on the rules of war.
FelixCress@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 08:07
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Complete rubbish. Any side has a duty of minimalising civilian casualties. You cannot kill 10 civilians to destroy one combatant or piece of arm. Furthermore, Israel is an occupational force so any resistance against them is legitimate, unlike the occupation of Palestinian lands.
Unless of course you are a Nazi - as they used to do that during Ghetto uprising. And now they are doing it again, this time to inflict genocide on Palestinians.
filister@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 07:23
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Don’t forget that those tunnels were originally built to escape the blockade of Gaza imposed by Israel. They were originally built to smuggle goods in and out of Gaza.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 14:06
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Yep, can’t have anyone providing aid to the people they are genociding. More to the point, the existence of the tunnels is irrelevent. They may exist; they might not exist for a particular IDF campaign. Bringing them up in media is clearly a proven mechanism for manufacturing consent. No fact checking required, what the IDF says goes.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 14:16
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What kind of goods?
filister@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 15:15
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These tunnels exist long before Hamas, they were not used to smuggling weapons, etc. back then.
The blockade of the Gaza Strip has caused a shortage of certain basic products, especially construction materials, fuel, some consumer articles, and medicines and medical supplies.[8][9] Import restrictions, including of basic building materials, have led to the proliferation of tunnels under the border with Egypt.[10][11] As Israel limits the Palestinian freedom of movement, for most Gazans the tunnels are the only way to move from and to Gaza.
Snowflake@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Aug 2024 04:26
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The world has been sending them aid for decades. They received over 40billion dollars since 1990. You are so deluded in the head to believe any of what you say.
SulaymanF@lemmy.world
on 19 Aug 2024 06:56
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Yes they had schools and hospitals built using that money, which Israel bombed.
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That genocidal lunatic doesn’t need a reason.
If Israel can build an international coalition to genocide Palestinians, why can’t they instead build an international coalition to provide electricity and water to the Palestinian communities? Again with this tunnels hasbara shit.
Because in my opinion the international community is generraly lazy. Supplying arms is easy. Making wars is easy. Helping people who really need that is a little bit more difficult. So the world would rather waste money on arms than help. While it may work in the short run the little bit more difficult thing would be long lasting and save countries trillions.
Yeah I was simply making the point about Israel being the primary cause for this conflict using the uncited and perhaps made up quote from the article. “If Hezbollah can build tunnels, why can’t they provide electricity and water to their communities?”
The tunnels made or perhaps not made by
HamasHouthiHezbollah are always used as a reason to bomb.If the tunnels are used for military purposes then that is a reason to bomb them. That goes for any place. If they use a hospital as a weapons cache, that hospital becomes a legitimate target. Same if it is a mosque, a school etc. Using civilians as human shields is in itself a war crime.
I suppose one war crime is worth another then, right?
Like the Nazis did during Ghetto uprising?
Like any military would do no matter what the country. Using the tunnels to move weapons literally makes them a legitimate military target. Perhaps you need to read up on the rules of war.
Complete rubbish. Any side has a duty of minimalising civilian casualties. You cannot kill 10 civilians to destroy one combatant or piece of arm. Furthermore, Israel is an occupational force so any resistance against them is legitimate, unlike the occupation of Palestinian lands.
Unless of course you are a Nazi - as they used to do that during Ghetto uprising. And now they are doing it again, this time to inflict genocide on Palestinians.
Don’t forget that those tunnels were originally built to escape the blockade of Gaza imposed by Israel. They were originally built to smuggle goods in and out of Gaza.
Yep, can’t have anyone providing aid to the people they are genociding. More to the point, the existence of the tunnels is irrelevent. They may exist; they might not exist for a particular IDF campaign. Bringing them up in media is clearly a proven mechanism for manufacturing consent. No fact checking required, what the IDF says goes.
What kind of goods?
These tunnels exist long before Hamas, they were not used to smuggling weapons, etc. back then.
…m.wikipedia.org/…/Gaza_Strip_smuggling_tunnels
The world has been sending them aid for decades. They received over 40billion dollars since 1990. You are so deluded in the head to believe any of what you say.
Yes they had schools and hospitals built using that money, which Israel bombed.
If you start attacking another country you don’t really call for sympathy when that second country kicks your collective arses.