'Expressly prohibited' — Ukraine's largest defense firm illegally stored weapons near civilian targets in Vyshneve, Zelensky says (kyivindependent.com)
from geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to world@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 22:05
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Top officials at Ukroboronprom, Ukraine’s state-owned defense conglomerate, violated the law by allowing weapons depots to be located in the Kyiv suburb of Vyshneve, President Volodymyr Zelensky said on July 11.

The announcement comes after Zelensky told journalists on July 9 that a criminal investigation had been launched into the massive explosions in Vyshneve during a recent Russian missile attack and that dismissals at Ukroboronprom would follow.

Vyshneve, a small town on the western outskirts of Kyiv, endured a night of terror on July 6 when it came under Russian drone and missile fire during a mass attack on the capital. An ammunition warehouse was hit, triggering secondary explosions. Seven people in Vyshneve were killed, while 29 others suffered injuries.

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ryannathans@aussie.zone on 12 Jul 09:39 next collapse

Damn that’s crazy, so Russia wasn’t bombing civilians in Kiev?

Photonic@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 11:24 next collapse

They have been bombing civilians from the start of the war and ramping up those attacks as part of a terrorisation and demoralisation campaign. They are also bombing legit military targets. These things are not mutually exclusive.

Also: Kyiv*

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 12 Jul 13:09 collapse

As a Ukrainian I’m happy to spell Kiev the traditional English way

Photonic@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 13:17 next collapse
DillDough@lemmy.zip on 12 Jul 13:42 collapse

A Ukrainian who almost exclusively posts about Australia?

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 12 Jul 15:21 collapse

Yes we came to Australia as refugees after the war lol?

DillDough@lemmy.zip on 12 Jul 16:52 collapse

Fair enough, just threw me off at first glance but I’m privileged enough to have no experience with that stuff.

AnyOldName3@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 12:10 collapse

It sounds like they missed some civilians and accidentally hit an unfortunately-located legitimate military target instead.

lambdabeta@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 12:18 next collapse

This is the kind of thing entities like Hamas need to learn to crack down on. Its a lot harder to say “oops we missed your valid military target and hit a school instead” if the valid military target is a decent distance from civilian infrastructure. Even Iran is pretty bad at that.

Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 13:27 next collapse

What a stupid take where you are not only fully consuming and regurgitating Israeli talking points but also creating false equivalencies.

holy_scroller@lemmy.zip on 12 Jul 13:58 collapse

It’s literally Hamas’ playbook. Build worlds largest bomb shelter under civilian targets and never let a single civilian into it. It’s quite sick.

Israel, Netanyahu, and especially the settlers have committed gobs of war crimes, but it is just plain ignorance to not understand this is what Hamas wants. There power is derived from maximizing civilian casualties. It’s all fucked up.

zbyte64@awful.systems on 12 Jul 14:38 next collapse

Way to both sides the “conflict” when one side is succeeding in a genocide. Judging what a population does in their struggle for existence is missing the forest for the trees.

holy_scroller@lemmy.zip on 12 Jul 15:16 collapse

Make a fucking argument instead of meaningless phrases. Why is it both sides to state a genocide is exactly what Hamas wanted to happen. That is why they build military facilities within and under civilians homes/infrastructure. The point of the post…

You are just blindly spouting talking points, instead of meaningfully engaging the difference between Ukraine and Hamas.

Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 15:06 collapse

Oh my, full throated regurgitation of Israeli propaganda. I’m sure you think that a calendar in Arabic is a terrorist plot too… Tsk tsk

For those who still don’t know how far Israel is willing to go with their lying: france24.com/…/20231116-idf-claims-to-find-list-o…

A video posted directly by Israel’s Defence Forces claimed that it had found Hamas weapons and technology, as well as a “list of terrorist names” in Arabic, showing each agents’ rota guarding Israeli hostages under the Al-Rantisi Children’s Hospital in Gaza. However, a translation of the document shows that it contains no names but instead a calendar of the days of the week. Vedika Bahl explains in this episode of Truth or Fake.

holy_scroller@lemmy.zip on 12 Jul 15:10 collapse

Make a fucking argument instead of weak ad hominem attacks. Nothing I said is remotely disputable.

Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 15:19 next collapse

I provided a link showing that whatever your sharing is incorrect, where’s yours?

Not only that, also a false equivalence same as the first commenter did.

holy_scroller@lemmy.zip on 12 Jul 15:36 next collapse

Your link shows an incident of the IDF lying about knowing where Israeli hostages were held. I don’t see how that refutes a single thing I said.

What false equivalency has been made?

In Ukraine it is illegal to put military infrastructure next to civilians. In Gaza military infrastructure is only put next to civilians. Where is the equivalency? Make a real argument.

lambdabeta@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 15:39 collapse

I never equivocated the Israeli actions and the Palestinian ones. I would say anyone arguing in good faith should agree that both sides have done bad things. The scale may be wildly different, but that doesn’t magically make it okay. The axis powers did the most wrong in WWII, but internment of japanese civilians by allied powers is still not okay.

lambdabeta@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 15:37 collapse

Not to mention Israel doesn’t really make those kinds of translation mistakes. Most Israeli’s are at least partially bilingual, and almost all signage/packaging/etc is written in hebrew and arabic. I would be extremely surprised if anyone who has lived in Israel for more than about a year didn’t know the names of the week in arabic. Any more than someone living in Canada not knowing them in french. They may forget whick ones correspond to whick, but they should recognize that that is what they are.

Gates9@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jul 17:21 collapse

Israel has systematically embedded its military command centres, bases and nuclear sites within densely populated areas. This strategy deliberately puts Israeli civilians at risk — especially now, as missile attacks continue to escalate between Israel and Iran.

youtube.com/shorts/HcJDReDRqSA?is=GG6cPloGcuRTK-j…

interesting@sh.itjust.works on 12 Jul 15:54 collapse

Strange that western media didnt show this news