Ukraine targets St. Petersburg again after Putin rejects Zelenskyy's offer for direct talks (apnews.com)
from MicroWave@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 11:39
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bowroat@infosec.pub on 06 Jun 12:02 next collapse

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A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip on 06 Jun 12:04 next collapse

How come we never hear about Ukrainian drones missing their targets and killing civilians?

My guess it’s because even consumer drone technology allows for enough precision and there’s really no “accidental” killing of civilians if you choose your targets properly.

In other words, Ukraine wants to destroy Russia’s military capacities, Russia wants to terrorize Ukraine/ians.

But I’m sure some (no need for naming) will fundamentally disagree with my admittedly layman analysis.


Bonus: this pic of Holy Putin hits hard.

wopalopa@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 12:29 next collapse

my assumption is that generally you dont want to target anything that dont hold strategic value. missiles are v expensive. any misfire that affect civilian either has been shot down, dud or unreliable intel.

i wont say that certain nation actors that see terrorizing civilian is not a strategic value but in a long term if they dont see any effect they will stop doing it. i personally dont see any benefit even if i purposely demonize them.

case and point. the US bad intel striking school is a blunder that rallying the iranian to their government. im sure the US doesnt want that, the russian is well versed in this and undoubtly understand more than i do.

no matter how bad the ukrainians want to strike st petersburg or moscow. IIRC they hold back to minimize the martyr effect and combined with their arsenal basically given by westerner with a caveat.

A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip on 06 Jun 12:32 collapse

In other words: yes, Russia is doing this entirely on purpose. There’s no “accidentally” hitting Romania instead, etc.

BassTurd@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 15:19 next collapse

After the first st Petersburg attack, there was a bus with civilian passengers allegedly hit by Ukraine. It does happen, but I’ll believe it was not intentional coming from Ukraine. That’s just Russia’s favorite past time though.

Akasazh@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 16:38 next collapse

Last time there were fine attacks tankies instantly started blathering about how it was uncouth to attack civilians.

I asked them about how many casualties there were in either side. They got quiet surprisingly soon.

But somehow the good guys will always be held to higher scrupule, and that’s ok. They will one again show that terror attacks in civilians only will strengthen resolve, target than break it.

A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip on 06 Jun 17:26 collapse

fine attacks

I’m trying to reconstruct what maybe your autocorrect deconstructed but I just can’t. What are “fine attacks”?

Decq@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 18:21 collapse

I assume he means finely/precisely picked targets. Not randomly throw some bombs at a city kind of attacks

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 06 Jun 17:18 collapse

You’re completely right in your observation

Russia still works with all the cold War strategies like massive meat grinder attacks waves, and yes, terrorizing populations

Ukraine is working like a mosquito, relentlessly stinging Russia in the places that hurt their infrastructure, their economy. Each individual sting doesn’t do much, but all of them together over time hurts bad to the point that Russia as a country may not survive, and all this time they don’t try to murder innocent civilians

bowroat@infosec.pub on 06 Jun 12:04 collapse

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Individual_Orchid@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jun 12:51 collapse

Does this shoot darts?