Italy now recognizes the crime of femicide and punishes it with life in prison | CNN
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from LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone to world@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 15:24
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/world/p/429588/italy-now-recognizes-the-crime-of-femicide-and-punishes-it-with-life-in-prison-cnn
from LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone to world@lemmy.world on 26 Nov 15:24
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/world/p/429588/italy-now-recognizes-the-crime-of-femicide-and-punishes-it-with-life-in-prison-cnn
Italy’s parliament on Tuesday approved a law that introduces femicide into the country’s criminal law and punishes it with life in prison.
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So instead of tuning the law by adding a few lines about sex-centered homicides, they invented the new term and just stated that some sex is more important than other. It is amazing how politicians manage to invent the most stupid solution to any problem.
No need to lose your mind, this is just a new category of hate crime, no sex is more important than the other.
It is amazing how bigots manage to invent the most stupid excuses to be hateful.
So that means they also have laws for androcide. Right?
No, because that basically doesn’t exist and usually no one makes laws for things that don’t exist.
Feel free to keep trying to justify your misogyny, I am mildly entertained.
Would it have been difficult to introduce a gendercide law?
If androcide doesn’t exist, it wouldn’t matter anyway, right?
So that you know, all the feminists fighting for equality are satisfied with having equal rights and laws for both genders.
Unless…
So you are infuriated by the name? That sounds like misogyny since there are no androcides and the law, whatever the name, would still concern only femicides.
Anyway a “gendercide” law could be great and could include also hate crimes against homosexuals, transsexuals and so on, but guess what?
Other bigots like you go completely nuts when someone mentions these words and the current proposed law for that specific type of crimes is blocked.
Infuriated? I see someone is projecting.
Like myself? Uhm. Wasn’t I the one who just said they should have introduced a gendercide law?
I think it’s time for one of us to take a nap.
Thank you for the eloquent answer 😂
EDIT: you are the one who is proposing (completely out of nowhere) a “gendercide” law even though you know androcides don’t exist and even though you didn’t mention other genders.
Sounds all purely in bad faith, which is why I’m prone to include you in the bigots club.
Honestly any kind of gender-motivated hate murder should be punished but from my point of view isn’t the biggest issue the murder part? If you’re already sentencing someone for an intentional murder wouldn’t they be ideally getting something resembling a maximum sentence? In which case would the specific motive really make a huge difference in punishment? I’m just trying to understand why this is a big deal when the starting point is already murder.
No, there are many cases and conditions that can change the final sentence, which can be, but not always is, the life sentence (26 years in italy or 21 with “good behavior”).
I’m not an expert though so for better informations you should research it yourself.
Wanna provide any examples of that happening anywhere at any appreciable scale?
This is great. Let’s also have a charge for rape by men.
I have briefly scanned the headline and am ready to share my immediate opinion on this significant political issue that I did zero research on. Where do I put it?
A murder charge is a minimum sentence of 21 years up to life if it had aggravating circumstances like premeditation.
So I guess this means you can be convicted of murder and femicide now and serve double life sentences. What does it accomplish practically aside from responding politically to the murder of that Giulia girl?
It scores some political points, without having to address the deeper issues. That’s what politicians do best.
You are wrong because you clearly are not informed about the Italian legislation.
I love how people downvote factual statements out of pure, visceral hate.
Less likely a chance for parole with two life sentences?
If you have a problem with criminalizing hate crime murders against women, you are probably part of the problem. We have a worldwide epidemic of violence against women.
Femicide doesn’t get solved with more laws. It’s a deep rooted issue which needs education. Proper support for abused people, really investigating and enforcing laws. Providing mental health support.
It’s not like the people who are killing women right now are too worried about the existing laws. They do it out of hate and cowardice. Cultural expectations, mental health issues. And just because “they can”.
But really. Support for women before they are killed. In many cases, the signs show way before and the abusers are let go with just a warning.
That’s nice.
Can police start believeing women who tell them they feel they are in danger, and do something about it before someone kills them, now?
Only if they’re rich.
I think this is the bigger problem, actually. It could have prevented a number of femicides.
For real.
The law in a lot of places does not allow police to do anything to help someone, before their life has already been risked.
Unfortunately the first attempt on someone’s life can be just as lethal as a hypothetical second.
Wouldn’t it be smarter to have a law that simply and generically adds penalties on a crime committed out of hate against a population group?
So instead of “just” femicide, it could also cover hate against e.g. members of religions, the handicapped, or, in a reverse case, maybe even cover a hate-murder on a man?