I imagine that Zelenskyy is probably gonna be pretty cheerful about any anti-ship missiles that Russia wants to take out of the conflict and send to the Houthis no longer being his problem.
I admit that I did kind of think that this would be targeting Western ships.
Palauan-flagged, Ukrainian-owned and Polish-operated bulk cargo carrier that had docked in Malaysia and was on its way to Italy carrying wood.
Maybe this was an attack on Palau? Poland? Malaysia? Italy? No, using Ukraine will generate more clicks.
PahassaPaikassa@sopuli.xyz
on 14 Jun 2024 08:37
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Well, who owns the ship is the important bit. Where the ship is registered is irrelevant because its done for tax etc purposes. The crews are often subcontractor kind of deals. The ports that the ship left/was going to dont matter either, the ship is just a glorified floating lorry, you wouldnt consider a arson attack against a polish lorry to be a attack against germany just because the lorry was going to frankfurt.
If you ask me personally this was an attack against the west, not any individual countries.
zephyreks@lemmy.ml
on 14 Jun 2024 09:03
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fair enough
Still, I thought the Houthis were mostly targeting ships that turned off their AIS and tried to run the Strait?
Stamau123@lemmy.world
on 15 Jun 2024 12:32
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They just fire at whatever the hell they think they can hit
Weren’t ships declaring CHINESE CREW AND OWNER on AIS and successfully traversing the strait? That’s what I remember browsing the AIS tracker sites a few weeks ago
Crashumbc@lemmy.world
on 15 Jun 2024 14:20
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They almost certainly had no idea of ANY details of the ship. Much less who owned it.
Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world
on 15 Jun 2024 22:45
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It’s actually very easy to know the details and the ownership of ships at under sail. Sites like vesselfinder.com and marinetraffic.com provide live tracking and all the pertinent details. Even more if you go for the paid version. I doubt it is accurate enough for targeting but it plenty good enough for target selection.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world
on 14 Jun 2024 11:17
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How do you think the Houthis determined which ship they were attacking? The problem is they’re attacking any ship they can reach and claim it’s to help Gaza.
Which isn’t on the coast of the Red Sea.
People keep defending them for it too as if this somehow really does help Palestinians and doesn’t just give the Houthis a PR opportunity.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jun 2024 13:57
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I admit that I did kind of think that this would be targeting Western ships.
Maybe this was an attack on Palau? Poland? Malaysia? Italy? No, using Ukraine will generate more clicks.
Well, who owns the ship is the important bit. Where the ship is registered is irrelevant because its done for tax etc purposes. The crews are often subcontractor kind of deals. The ports that the ship left/was going to dont matter either, the ship is just a glorified floating lorry, you wouldnt consider a arson attack against a polish lorry to be a attack against germany just because the lorry was going to frankfurt.
If you ask me personally this was an attack against the west, not any individual countries.
fair enough
Still, I thought the Houthis were mostly targeting ships that turned off their AIS and tried to run the Strait?
They just fire at whatever the hell they think they can hit
Weren’t ships declaring CHINESE CREW AND OWNER on AIS and successfully traversing the strait? That’s what I remember browsing the AIS tracker sites a few weeks ago
They almost certainly had no idea of ANY details of the ship. Much less who owned it.
It’s actually very easy to know the details and the ownership of ships at under sail. Sites like vesselfinder.com and marinetraffic.com provide live tracking and all the pertinent details. Even more if you go for the paid version. I doubt it is accurate enough for targeting but it plenty good enough for target selection.
How do you think the Houthis determined which ship they were attacking? The problem is they’re attacking any ship they can reach and claim it’s to help Gaza.
Which isn’t on the coast of the Red Sea.
People keep defending them for it too as if this somehow really does help Palestinians and doesn’t just give the Houthis a PR opportunity.
They even hit an Iranian ship at one point LOL.