U.S. Dealers In Full Panic Mode After Canada Green-Lights Chinese Cars (www.thedrive.com)
from Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 04:33
https://lemmy.world/post/42739341

cross-posted from: discuss.online/post/35133068

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mrnobody@reddthat.com on 06 Feb 04:43 next collapse

Good, maybe they’ll realize nobody wants cars being as complete as AAA video game titles… Aka overpriced shit that’s half assed with loads of issues.

whereIsTamara@lemmy.org on 06 Feb 05:21 next collapse

What, you don’t want to update every week? Sure, some of them brick you, but… it’s worth it for the new icons right!!!

jabjoe@feddit.uk on 06 Feb 07:21 collapse

It’s called “continuous deployment”. It’s the latest term for not having the hassle of separating development and production.

wheezy@lemmy.ml on 06 Feb 09:40 collapse

I’m literally worried about buying a new car. It was bad enough when I did in 2019 getting a car with actual buttons and still half the basic features I have to tap a screen for. It’s never, never felt comfortable like my old Mazda3 2012 or Honda Civic 2003 did. I just want fucking buttons and knobs man. I also hate all of the “safety features”. Which are just essentially “feel safer while using your phone and driving” features that all the idiots on the road use them as. Everyone can see your lane assist correcting you every 5 seconds Debra! You’re gonna kill someone.

mrnobody@reddthat.com on 06 Feb 12:47 next collapse

Right?! Yeah don’t enforce safer driving practices or anything. Just make it easier to not pay attention.

I’ve always said phones should lock you out of almost every feature when motion/gps data shows movement. Then you have to put in a PIN to use your phone as a passenger. Like the Navi screen warnings of before “do not use while driving”. This way people can be held accountable for the dangerous shit they do.

ozymandias117@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 15:11 collapse

I must have made it just under the wire

My 2018 Honda Civic doesn’t have a touchscreen, all knobs and buttons, and the only safety features are things like airbags/traction control/ABS

MisterNeon@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 04:48 next collapse

How many US car manufacturer CEOs endorsed Trump? I’m betting a lot.

Arghblarg@lemmy.ca on 06 Feb 05:00 next collapse

Good.

IlllIlllIlllIlllIllIIIIll@sh.itjust.works on 06 Feb 05:08 next collapse

Oh no, the poor dealership owners might have to actually compete for once. My heart just bleeds for them. Hearing the NADA CEO say this is bad for consumers is the funniest thing I have read all week. Since when do these guys care about us? They spend all their time lobbying to make direct sales illegal so they can keep tacking on 10,000 dollar market adjustment fees for doing absolutely nothing.

The reality is that American car companies and their dealer cronies have completely abandoned the affordable car market. Everything on the lot right now is a 60,000 dollar emotional support tank. If a Chinese company wants to sell a basic, functional EV for a third of that price, why should I be forced to subsidize some local tycoon’s third vacation home just to get a ride to work?

I am so tired of the fake concern. They aren’t worried about the country or the industry. They are worried their parasitic business model is finally hitting a wall. If Canada is smart enough to let people actually buy what they want, we are going to look like idiots over here paying double for the privilege of being harassed by a salesman in a cheap suit.

victorz@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 05:34 next collapse

Do you write for a living? You should write for a living. 👌

Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Feb 06:08 collapse

Was gonna say the same thing, evocative

victorz@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 10:26 collapse

And now a mod removed the comment?! 😔

FenrirIII@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 12:53 collapse

It’s an AI bot

victorz@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 13:19 next collapse

This community has an AI bot as a mod?

Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Feb 14:04 collapse

Huh, well, it made good points anyhow, I guess the one thing it’s decent at is fooling me every now and then lol

john_t@piefed.ee on 06 Feb 06:09 next collapse

Un-american here. Does Canada have the same direct sales ban as the US? Same dealer lobby in both countries?

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 06 Feb 13:32 collapse

Tesla does not use dealerships in Canada or US. Dealerships and insurance agents, brokers , real estate agents are are redundant leeches on society.

Seaguy05@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 06:14 next collapse

Don’t forget their political aspirations!!

Car Dealers Recipients • OpenSecrets share.google/4nIu8I09iOKCgt4wH

wheezy@lemmy.ml on 06 Feb 09:35 collapse

Boo mods

bdonvr@thelemmy.club on 06 Feb 12:20 next collapse

I was confused too. This comment doesn’t look too bad but given it’s a 7 hour old account it made several multi-paragraph comments like this in a formulaic outrage-bait kinda way. This comment looks fine but the full comment history is pretty AI like

Full comment history: files.catbox.moe/uf48if.png

enterpries@sh.itjust.works on 06 Feb 13:20 collapse

Yeah, they’re part of the problem.

We need new instances with better moderation.

MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca on 06 Feb 05:19 next collapse

FAFO.

MrSulu@lemmy.ml on 06 Feb 07:20 next collapse

Ah, the “American dream”. Competition. Sadly only if it is competition not just lobbying power.

kreskin@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 07:23 next collapse

I see we’re in the "find out’ stage of FAFO. Well all the other industries in the Us are imploding, we might as well do the auto industry too. You auto workers are welcome to pull up a stump in front of this nice flaming trashcan I am warming my hands to.

Trilogy3452@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 07:25 next collapse

If one buys a Chibese car in Canada, will they have to pay terrific when registering it in the US?

doingthestuff@lemy.lol on 06 Feb 13:36 collapse

They won’t let you import it, or it will be very costly to do so.

Zier@fedia.io on 06 Feb 07:20 next collapse

I really hope American car manufacturers go bankrupt. American cars are the worst. The rest of the world has better cars.

doingthestuff@lemy.lol on 06 Feb 13:38 collapse

You can’t even buy a Toyota truck with a decent bed length though.

Zier@fedia.io on 06 Feb 13:48 collapse

I miss the original small Toyota trucks. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-toyota-pickup-3/

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 06 Feb 07:38 next collapse

God I fucking hate stealerships. If car dealer cartels in the US as a concept die as a result of this era of idiocy we’re in, that’s a pretty great silver lining.

ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca on 06 Feb 08:11 next collapse

I’ll take any silver lining, but I’m not sure if whatever replaced it will be any better given how the Chinese have acted in markets they’ve achieved majority stake in.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 06 Feb 08:16 collapse

Tbh being able to purchase cars direct from the manufacturer would be dope. New car dealers are literally nothing but middlemen.

ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca on 06 Feb 08:19 next collapse

Fully agree. I just don’t trust China any much more than the US to respect privacy and consumer choice. Color me prejudiced if you want, but I’ve dealt with enough Chinese suppliers to have a decent idea of how they operate.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 06 Feb 08:26 collapse

I mean I don’t either, but us unitedstatesians are now subjected to the tender mercies of Palantir, which is kind of fucking awful… so, potato, potato.

jaybone@lemmy.zip on 06 Feb 10:54 next collapse

I don’t drive, so I don’t buy cars. But I’m curious, how would that work to buy directly from the manufacturer as opposed to a dealership? Like I assume they would still have to have the equivalent of a dealership, where inventory is locally stored, can be test driven, can perform servicing. I assume that’s pretty much the same as a dealership right?

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 06 Feb 12:13 collapse

If you go to a us dealership, there’s pretty much always some sort of financing deal or somesuch. But there’s also very often a “dealer markup”. Never, ever pay that.

That said, for some cars, they refuse to budge on that. For instance, when the new Nissan Z came out a few years ago, the dealers tacked on like 10-15k pretty much across the board, and then Nissan corporate was surprised when it didn’t sell too well… because the dealerships got too fucking greedy.

If I needed to buy a new car, I’d vastly prefer to just spec it out online, click “order”, and then have a text come in when it arrives at my local Nissan or BMW or Hyundai maintenance facility (as appropriate for the car). I do not want to talk to a human and have to literally socially engineer them into giving me a fair fucking price. Jesus christ.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 06 Feb 13:37 collapse

All dealers gouged all car buyers during Covid shortages. Jeep was particularly agregious and the world would be better without any Stellantis products.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 06 Feb 13:41 collapse

Lmfao who wants to buy a Chrysler Stellantis product? They’re just… bad. They’re not even cheaper. They’re just worse, and break more.

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 13:24 collapse

Yeah, useless middlemen are kinda a thing in the US economy.

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 09:06 next collapse

Such a weird, American-only practice, like with American health insurance. The whole country is a scam, jeez.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 06 Feb 09:25 collapse

It really is

doingthestuff@lemy.lol on 06 Feb 13:34 collapse

We have one of the most car dependent societies in the world and also the highest car prices. Burn it down and deregulate.

kalkulat@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 08:40 next collapse

“It’s bad for our industry, it’s bad for our country, it’s bad for consumers.”

I think they (accidentally, of course) left out the people that it’s worst for.

Once these guys are gone, where are the Better Business Bureaus gonna find smarmy guys in suits?

enterpries@sh.itjust.works on 06 Feb 13:19 next collapse

GOOD

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 13:23 next collapse

At least for the last year, the only thing that has tempered Donald’s worst impulses is markets.

So in a way, these kinds of movements and deals are essential to international security.

Paddzr@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 13:41 next collapse

Xenpeng is the first car to actually copy what’s making tesla the best EVs.

Stay the fuck away from likes of BYD AND XIAOMI.

RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 15:00 next collapse

What did they do?

Why do you think Teslas are the best?

Killer57@lemmy.ca on 06 Feb 15:19 collapse

It’s hilarious that you think Tesla is a good brand.

darkmogool@feddit.org on 06 Feb 13:42 next collapse

good

DupaCycki@lemmy.world on 06 Feb 15:13 collapse

American free market advocates when the market is free: