Why Israel is joining hands with Europe's far right
(www.middleeasteye.net)
from technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to world@lemmy.world on 08 Mar 23:29
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65021512
from technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to world@lemmy.world on 08 Mar 23:29
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65021512
Put plainly, Israel is aligning itself with an authoritarian wave sweeping Europe to legitimise its policies of genocidal warfare and democratic erosion, while Europe’s far right increasingly becomes normalised and mainstream.
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Fascists like other Fascists?
Fascists support other fascists…
It’s why fascism anywhere is a problem for people everywhere.
They’ll always try to prop up like minded people, because if there’s only one fascist government everyone pays attention to them.
If there’s 5-6 all doing shit, it’s hard for everyone else to unify against it.
Its backliding into barbarism and tribal us vs them societies
Yeah I think that’s more apropos.
Just like all the billionaires, fuckers unite under one regarded tent
Because they’ve always been fascists?
Because they are also nazis?
I wonder if there’s some kind of doctrine devised by the early modern Israeli government that basically amounts to the only way to not let Jewish people be at the bottom of the boot again is to be the boot, and the Israelis have just been quietly working to emulate the Nazis as per that doctrine ever since?
Or its the classic victim/abuser cycle but replicated on a nation scale.
Or just arseholes being arseholes.
Why not all three?
Zionism itself essentially boiled down to using the tragedies faced by jews in order to borrow the boot of western nations until they had one of their own. It’s why the next most likely new homeland for jews after Israel was going to be the Nazi suggestion of Madagascar or the Italian suggestion of Ethiopia or Libya. It’s easy to oppress and make such compromises when the most strict way of teaching your religion states everyone besides you has no soul and you are going to divinely rule over them someday anyway.
That is the founding doctrine of Likud.
And TIL about the Begin Doctrine. I honestly thought what I was suggesting would be a nefarious backroom thing only spoken about in the Israeli chambers of power. But here we are, they broadcast it in 1081 and have been acting on it since.
Nazis of a feather flock together
Why do we look at history? Why do we learn about the atrocities of the past committed for the benefit of the few? This such a bullshit headline for an article that basically cut-and-pasted news from the 1930s. I'm sick of journalism becoming one giant handjob of, "Check this out."
because they always have been?
A part of me thinks the rise of extreme nationalism is fueled by climate change. We’re already seeing issues with access to clean drinking water around the world. Hell, in 2025, Mexico wasn’t able to honor their end of the water trade treaty with the US for the first time since the treaty was created in the 1940s, which helped the nazis in charge here justify refusing to send water to Mexico. www.ecoticias.com/en/…/12590/
It’s only going to get worse. Resources are drying up, and when countries face issues supplying clean water and food, they tend to gravitate towards barbarism and tribalism. In my opinion, this is just the tip of the iceberg, unfortunately.
Another possibility is the Economic supercycle which has a period of around a century, in which we are now at or near the low-point (basically the maximum inequality point when growth - not just Economic but actually as a progression of quality of life - is at a minimum whilst non-productive rentierism is at a maximum).
It makes sense that the people with the most power - which in Capitalism are the moneyed classes - at this point would be investing heavilly in political forces which blame outsider for the pain and loss of faith in the future that most people are feeling, in order to avoid being punished by the public for their misuse of power for maximum self-enrichement which is causing the hurt on everybody else.
This shit isn’t just Economic, but also Social and the elites managing the last part would explain all manner of things done in the last decade or two, from the rise of the Far-Right to increasing political corruption and authoritarianism (starting with widespread civil society surveillance, which is now increasing, as well as increasing cracking down on demonstration) in supposedly Democratic nations.
The cycle theory is not science. If there were such cycles, investors would place their bets in a way that would make money from them, which in turn would damp the cycles.
We do have a massive problem with inequality, driven by unchecked owning class macro-parasitism. Or, if you prefer, rentierism.
Yeah, those are two faces of the same coin.
It’s fueled by the pedofile parasite class reestablishing their parasitic capitalist system
It is, in the sense that the only way to mitigate climate change will destroy the income streams of the fossil-fuel companies and countries that rely on fossil-fuel exports. And, in order to prevent their rice bowl from being broken, they fund anti-environmentalist fake scientists and anti-scientific political parties that all lie about climate change and try to fuck with renewables in any way they can.
Because they are no different to Nazis
Fascists stick together.
They’re an ethno-Fascist state (same type as the one of the NAZIs: Fascism but anchored of ethnic-superiority instead of on “mere” nationalism, hence far more dehumanizing of the “other” which translates into far more and more extreme violence against those they call “vermin”) so of course they love Fascists in general.
The main ideological difference between Zionist Israel and the last great ethno-Fascist country - NAZI Germany - is that the ethnic-group they see as “vermin” is Muslims rather than Jews and Roma, so those are who they want to push other Fascist groups to hate (which they already do up to a point thanks to decades of islamophobic racist propaganda from America, itself almost certainly influenced by Israel).
Most of Israel’s actions suddently make total sense if you look at them as a modern variant of NAZIs with different ubermenschen and untermenschen.
Something about birds of a feather
Because Israel is far right? Is this a trick question?
Do they ever wonder if they might be the badguys, when they’re going to a meeting about how to put ultranationalists in charge of Germany?
“Why Europes far right is joining with Israel.”
GTFO with your bullshit
I don’t know much about EU politics other than anti-nato parties being far right illegal parties, but in US:
Christo fascism, and replacement theory in general, is a Zionist first movement. They don’t scare you that immigrant children might vote for healthcare in future, they will vote against Israel first rule over America, that Christo-fascists protect.
Being anti-NATO isn’t an illegal position at all, nor is it a far-right thing.
Romania leader/party was banned for it. AfD’s only difference with CDU is anti-nato, and delegitimized for it, even if they haven’t yet been forced by corrupt courts off the ballot. If it weren’t for CDU copying their hatred, but with NATO absolutist difference, then the courts might have been needed to prevent democracy.
I don’t know much about these, but from what I understand AFD is pretty much full blown neo-nazi, and that’s why they’re deligitimized.
Jean-Luc Mélenchon in France has repeatedly suggested getting out of NATO for years and this was not a big deal.
insert drive past meme with Israel and Nazis
They love it. Part of what Israel does is encourage antisemitism abroad in order to demonstrate the necessity of Zionism. Confront this wherever you see it. Especially when it is couched as anti-Israel, but uses anti-Jew language. Don’t let them get away with it. Anti-Nazi, anti-zionist, ant-fascist. Hold the line.
But also, simply, Israel is run by a far right governement.
Yes, but on it’s face it should still be odd that they’d support actual antisemites. Nationalists don’t always get along with other nationalists.
A far right government that faces only very token opposition in any Western country because anti-muslim sentiment and perpetual imagined jewish victimization has been propogandized and weaponized into society for decades by these arsehole extremist zionists. And the non extremists largely let them get away with it when they also benefit.
After god know how many movies about the holocaust, and how many movies painting every middle eastern person as a suicide bomber religious zealot, who wants to be the one to be even accused of being an antisemite? We’ve all been trained that thats poison-- even when its a nonsense accusation.
Join hands? They fund them all
How the turntables…
It’s more like an elephant walk than hand holding
As is tradition:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
“Why the lady in a white dress and a veil and the guy in a suit leaving a church are joining hands”
Ahhh HA! Russia again! I knew it!
The Israeli Likud party is far right. The Russians and Israelis are supporting right wing European parties filled with fucking neo-Nazis.
The Saudis and Gulfies too.
Fascists of a feather flock together. Times are going to get really bad 65 million people died the last time we let fascism rise on a global scale
It’s because they both hate the idea of Arab democracy.