Trump announces 35% tariffs on Canada starting Aug. 1 (www.cnbc.com)
from babysandpiper@sopuli.xyz to world@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 01:22
https://sopuli.xyz/post/30213904

Donald Trump on Thursday announced a 35% tariff on Canadian imports, starting Aug. 1, citing that Ottawa had retaliated with tariffs against Washington.

“Instead of working with the United States, Canada retaliated with its own Tariffs,” Trump said in his letter to Mark Carney, prime minister of Canada, posted on Truth Social.

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adespoton@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 01:26 next collapse

Er, “instead of caving to our unreasonable demands, they’ve responded in kind.”

It’s like Russia and Ukraine. Trump, if you want to work with Canada, just remove the trade barriers.

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 04:05 collapse

It really is that stupid.

nocklobster@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 01:30 next collapse

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nocklobster@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 01:32 next collapse

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Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 02:15 next collapse
charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 02:25 collapse

Dee’s a bird and Trump’s a turd

griff@lemmings.world on 11 Jul 03:56 collapse

Taco Always Craps Out

smeg@infosec.pub on 11 Jul 01:53 next collapse

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opus86@lemmy.today on 11 Jul 01:57 next collapse

Is that the art of the deal or petulant flailing?

who@feddit.org on 11 Jul 02:57 next collapse

I think in this case it’s yet another example of brazen market manipulation.

JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world on 13 Jul 05:25 collapse

Congress doesn’t seem to care. Amd the people aren’t letting congress know their displeasure, so, uh, it’s what the American people want?

Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 03:31 next collapse

Or? Didn’t you mean “is”.

JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world on 13 Jul 04:58 collapse

It’s like pushing a button that you think is hurting the guy on the other side of the table, only to look under the table and realize the wires aren’t connected to anything and they were just having you on.

Zier@fedia.io on 11 Jul 02:08 next collapse

Enacting tariffs against our trading partners, and excellent neighbors, as well as allies, is an act of war. It puts America in 'national security' peril.
We are not being attacked by Canada or Mexico.
It's putin's Russia you need to be concerned about, you orange cancer.

CircaV@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 13:12 collapse

In Trumps addled mind, Canada not buying US milk is a national security threat.

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explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 13:57 collapse

That’s giving him way too much credit; he clearly doesn’t care about national security.

cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 02:32 next collapse

🙄

Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 02:35 next collapse

lets reinstate that digital sales tax and triple it, fuck em.

Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Jul 09:10 collapse

Yes, nobody should do any accommodation to trump. You only loose. He will demand more and make the same threats again, typical bully.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jul 17:00 collapse

People tried appeasement with the Nazis as well… Didn’t work out so well.

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 02:35 next collapse

Trump is named in the Epstein files.

Trump cut NOAA and FEMA funding before flash flooding killed over 200 people in Texas including two dozen Christian girls.

30p87@feddit.org on 11 Jul 04:15 next collapse

And why does the fact that the two dozen girls were in a cult matter?

yucandu@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 04:19 next collapse

Matters to his voters.

MapleEngineer@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 04:48 next collapse

Is this an alt or are there two of you in this thread?

ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 04:56 next collapse

God has no tolerance for traitors. You see, God discovered that they supported the Devil in secret, so he sent a flood to kill them. It’s a message to help the surviving Texans remember their true allegiance.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jul 16:58 next collapse

To me, I think it’s worth pointing out the hypocrisy of the “the gays caused hurricane Sandy/Katrina/etc” people.

UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 18:42 next collapse

It all about the optics. You say 200 people died people won’t care as much, you say 200 girls died and and THEY WERE GOOD CHRISTIANS, you appeal to a lot of Americans.

Bytemeister@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 20:25 collapse

It matters to the cult that they were in.

inbeesee@lemmy.world on 29 Jul 03:56 collapse

When will it finally create genuine action in the US?

pixxelkick@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 02:51 next collapse

I thought he already put tariffs on us? And then again?

troyunrau@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 03:40 next collapse

Pissing into the wind.

Honytawk@feddit.nl on 11 Jul 09:19 collapse

They chickens out too much to enforce them.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 03:30 next collapse

I just want my country to treat our citizens and allies right. Canada did nothing against us. Sure they did get us hooked on a few of their musicians and introduced pizza with pineapple, but that’s friend dick moves not enemy dick moves.

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 04:11 collapse

They also gave us Steven Crowder, so idk. /s

xzot746@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 05:25 next collapse

And we ain’t taking him back.

mPony@kbin.earth on 11 Jul 11:28 next collapse

in all fairness, we yeeted that one over the border with a trebuchet

Alaik@lemmy.zip on 11 Jul 19:09 collapse

And Rafael/Ted Cruz.

CaptainCancel@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 03:36 next collapse

Let’s go Taco!

yucandu@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 04:18 next collapse

Carney needs to call them out and publicly state that the taxes are never going to end because Trump is using them as a fundraising scheme.

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 04:53 collapse

Best he can do is cut funding for health care to fund a new military industrial complex.

yucandu@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 04:18 next collapse
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 04:20 next collapse

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skisnow@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 04:48 collapse

I would rather see a barely intelligible first-grader level drawing of a taco than AI slop. Stop it.

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 05:26 collapse

If a crown emoji on a taco emoji overwhelms you, you may be too sensitive to be online.

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prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 11 Jul 17:01 collapse

They didn’t seem overwhelmed at all though…

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 00:30 collapse

Okay, here you go: 👑🌮 Feel better?

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 12 Jul 11:51 collapse

Now I’m hungry 😕

barnaclebutt@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 04:30 next collapse

Look Mark, can I call you Mark? I’ve got a mangled tiny penis, and I compensate for it in many different and weird ways. Sometimes it’s raping woman or girls. Other times, it is saying and doing awful racist things. Sometimes it is just doing nonsensical things. Mark, the girls in the pee pee tape laughed at it. Anyways, that’s why Canada has to pay 35% tariffs.

TheTurner@lemmy.zip on 11 Jul 04:42 next collapse

Jeebus, I died. Lol

killeronthecorner@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 06:42 collapse

Yard sign material

Pringles@sopuli.xyz on 11 Jul 04:56 next collapse

Carney: looks like it’s time to start dumping US bonds again.

DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 06:54 next collapse

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MuskyMelon@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 07:48 next collapse

Why not now? Why wait till Aug 1? Just make it so.

You know why? He’s fishing for more concessions.

Canada should just say fuck it and raise the digital sale tax and then fling fentanyl across the border with trebuchets.

Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 09:25 collapse

Stock. Market. Manipulation.

Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Jul 09:08 next collapse

Good thing they dropped the digital service tax for US companies…

notastatist@feddit.org on 11 Jul 09:59 next collapse

Yeah right, what a bullshit theater…

Typotyper@sh.itjust.works on 11 Jul 11:10 next collapse

They can bring it back just as easily

Jhex@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 13:42 next collapse

… and the gain from dropping it was???

fluxion@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 17:11 collapse

Some people just like to get fucked

Jhex@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 17:26 collapse

And not in the fun way!

stephen01king@lemmy.zip on 11 Jul 14:31 collapse

But they already lost the advantage they had. The point of the retaliatory tariffs are not to make money, but to send a message.

They’ve already sent a message that they can tolerate Trump’s bullshit as long as it doesn’t hurt them too much when they backed down on the digital service tax.

Bringing it back now is a lot less effective than implementing it the first time around while still hurting Canadians the same amount.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 18:22 collapse

That was daft.

M0oP0o@mander.xyz on 12 Jul 23:40 collapse

Feckless and weak.

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 11:09 next collapse

They’ll be gone by next week.

kerntucky@infosec.pub on 12 Jul 00:09 collapse

T.A.C.O.

rozodru@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 13:37 next collapse

i.e. his rich buddies called him up and said “we need/want more money, go manipulate the market again” to which Trump said “sure i’ll fuck with Canada some more”

that’s all this is. Carney needs to stop playing nice and start up the digital service tax again.

DreasNil@feddit.nu on 11 Jul 17:01 next collapse

Don’t worry - TACO 🌮

SirMaple__@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 17:09 next collapse

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whotookkarl@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 19:21 next collapse

A guy walks over to his friend’s friend’s house and tells him to pay up or else. The reasonable response would be to spit in his face and tell him to get bent.

Trump’s policy decisions killed those people in Texas & Epstein helped him and other sick rich monsters rape kids

Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip on 11 Jul 20:02 next collapse

In violation of the trade agreement HE negotiated just a couple years ago.

Adderbox76@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 20:19 next collapse

I’d have more respect for our Canadian leaders if even ONE of them would just stand up at a podium and say “nope…we’re ignoring it. Everyone knows it’s a pump and dump scheme to deflate and reinflate stocks. And in a week he’ll be removing them.”

Everyone KNOWS he’s a fucking grifter, but politicians don’t want to say it out loud.

tempest@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 20:41 next collapse

If they call him on his bullshit his fefes might get hurt and he might actually keep them on to be spiteful.

Better to just smile and nod at his senile ass and continue to make contingency plans.

ragas@lemmy.ml on 11 Jul 20:43 collapse

That would be an incredibly stupid diplomatic strategy. So be happy that your politicians are smarter than that.

Pacattack57@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 21:01 next collapse

I don’t understand how so many countries just take this shit. Does the US economy have that strong a hold on your country that you are scared to stand up for your people? How shitty of a leader do you have to be to not have a contingency in place for something like this?

OminousOrange@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 01:24 collapse

Well, Canada’s only meaningful land border and a vast amount of transportation infrastructure is to the US, so any reasonable leader would probably try to maximize trade with that neighbour as long as they are an ally. Carney has definitely focused on more European trade, but yes, perhaps there should have been more diversification even before Donny.

Pacattack57@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 01:27 collapse

The is reasonable but very short sighted. You don’t put your eggs in 1 basket as the saying goes.

Maverick604@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 06:51 collapse

While this is obviously true now, in hindsight, it’s certainly not fair. The entire western world put all of their eggs in the USA basket… why? Because after WWII there was a real sense that the USA was trustable. That they would work toward freedom, democracy, and (importantly) expanding markets in the world. The USA made the basket and the rest of the world piled in their eggs. Despite plenty of evidence to the contrary (Panama, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc all), the world continued to believe the lie that America was happy promulgating. Nobody reasonable believed America would take a hard right turn to fascism and voluntarily elect a leader that would throw the basket — the basket they made to always favour America — in the trash. But here we are. Yes, the world never should have agreed to America putting itself at the top of the pile. But we did and now the world is busy re-orienting without America. I think that’s for the better, but then again I’m not American. I think Americans are in for a rude awakening when the Trump policies actually come home to roost… of course he’ll be gone by then and they’ll just blame whatever democrat inherits the burning hulk of America that he leaves behind.

lemmyknow@lemmy.today on 11 Jul 21:11 next collapse

Honestly, is there anything stopping a country from just “mirroring” US tariffs? US gives them X% tariffs, they give the US X% tariffs back. Is this feasible? Or is it a crappy idea?

mxc@programming.dev on 11 Jul 21:26 next collapse

I think this is what Europe has done in the past, however you want to target products that don’t damage your own economy by making them more expensive. That seems harder to do.

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 18:19 collapse

EU targeted products from Republican heartlands, it was an excellent move.

Benedict_Espinosa@europe.pub on 13 Jul 11:07 collapse

China pretty much did it, and they ended up with 30% - for now, as that may change in August, or at any given moment, of course. Their example, and also the examples of UK and Vietnam, may be used both to argue that escalation is not the solution, and nothing, including whatever concessions, lets anybody to escape tariffs completely; but also that maybe China still got the best it could get out of its tough stance. China, of course, is perhaps not the best example to follow, as they had the most leverage of all against US. EU is now the next in line.

As counterintuitive as it may be, it may be wisest not to retaliate, and just accept the US tariffs as they come, because any broad tariffs this high damage first and foremost the tariffing country. So the best way forward may well be to let the US screw itself with its tariff policy, and wait until somebody with an ounce of brain comes to power there.

kreskin@lemmy.world on 11 Jul 23:29 next collapse

Canadians were mega pissed at americans back in March. I’m not sure how much lower we can sink in their estimation. 0% favorability is coming up quick.

angusreid.org/trump-tariffs-canada-retaliation-us…

npr.org/…/its-been-a-minute-canada-us-relationshi…

TwinTitans@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 04:02 next collapse

Have been since march*

Being livid has not changed.

Witchfire@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 07:02 collapse

Trump did an absolute number to Pierre. I’m hoping he targets Ford or Smith next.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 11 Jul 23:38 next collapse

Boy: Do not try and bend the Trump. That’s impossible. Instead… only try to realize the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Boy: There is no Trump.
Neo: There is no Trump?
Boy: Then you’ll see, that it is not the Trump that bends, it is only yourself.

Gsus4@mander.xyz on 12 Jul 00:21 collapse

haha, this, but trump himself bends a lot too, multiple times a day. He’s like dough.

lerba@sopuli.xyz on 12 Jul 13:26 next collapse

Yawn…

FelixCress@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 18:18 next collapse

TACO

Bwaz@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 22:43 next collapse

Wait, I was just now wondering about the Epstein files but… now that this important proclamation has been yeeted out… I’ve forgotten about that. Odd

JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world on 13 Jul 04:55 collapse

Welp. Time to ramp up those energy prices then…