Trump’s remarkable military failure shows abject fiasco of his Iran war (www.independent.co.uk)
from floofloof@lemmy.ca to world@lemmy.world on 13 May 13:52
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ignirtoq@feddit.online on 13 May 15:51 next collapse

“Iran now knows without doubt it needs a nuclear weapon to survive, and will probably threaten the Strait of Hormuz in perpetuity,” the Nato source added.

This is Trump’s legacy. There’s no way to undo this. No amount of diplomacy or military action will ever be able to change their minds after what the US has done. It doesn’t matter who gets voted into office for the next 30 years. The Iranians won’t forget this.

thefluffiest@feddit.nl on 13 May 17:14 next collapse

And not just the Iranians. Every regime everywhere has taken note and learned the lesson: you’re not safe from the US without nukes.

Trumps legacy will be a world armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons. And hence, the unavoidable nuclear war that will result in the fullness of time.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 14 May 00:20 collapse

If only someone had warned everyone that trump is a malignant narcissist moron who wasn’t equipped to run a 7/11.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 May 17:43 next collapse

Nothing indicate that Iran will remove Ali Khamenei religious decree. Seems to me like an excuse to keep iran as a potentisl threat forever.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 14 May 05:28 collapse

potential DISTRACTION forever, from epstein files.

Aqarius@lemmy.world on 14 May 04:58 collapse

Frankly, that was understood at least since Gadaffi.

Canajan@piefed.ca on 13 May 19:17 next collapse

Trump is an imbecile on the world stage, everyone knows it. He will go down as the worst president ever, and the ruin of America. It will take generations to repair the damage he’s done. Hope Americans are happy.

desmosthenes@lemmy.world on 13 May 21:14 next collapse

most of us aren’t - sheep are sheep though, they didn’t read animal farm, or probably any other dystopian warning books that were required reading in school prior

Windex007@lemmy.world on 13 May 22:56 collapse

Well, he won the popular vote… so it’s what most people explicitly voted for, or failed to show up to vote against.

Either way: bad look. There was a leg to stand on with that argument in 2016, but not now.

Own it, don’t dismiss it, and then fix it.

ripcord@lemmy.world on 13 May 23:10 next collapse

fix it

OK, it’s a huge problem. Now what

Windex007@lemmy.world on 14 May 01:41 collapse

Register and participate to push the needle to actually get a half-decent candidate and then make sure that your lazy friends actually go vote, because a ton of them said they did but didn’t. Understand how voting and registration rules may be changing in your area so you can help make sure you and your friends even can vote.

I know it’s glib, but really… get involved in your local community. You can’t really help anyone on the internet, but you can make a practical difference in your community.

And it doesn’t actually matter if you’re in a deep blue or deep red jurisdiction either. Polling does affect results, people love hopping on a bandwagon. If you can contribute to a “deep red state goes from 95/5 to 90/10” it’s an infectious shift which could move other needles elsewhere past 50.

Don’t succumb to hopelessness, or the idea that there is no impact to be made, or that for some reason you can’t make an impact.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 14 May 00:13 collapse

So we’re supposed to own what we didn’t vote for and only happened because we have a bunch of morons and propagandists plus a horrifically anti-democratic system called the electoral college? Nope, sorry. I don’t own this. Even if I were willing to take some responsibility, which I’m not (I tried to talk sense into countless idiots), it’s way more complicated than “Americans voted for this”. And it’s by a lot.

Just curious. Exactly what would be gained if I thought this was my fault? Would my introspection transfer by osmosis to millions of trump cultists?

Windex007@lemmy.world on 14 May 01:28 collapse

You’re muddling a few distinct concepts like “fault”, “blameworthiness” and “responsibility”.

It’s the collective fault of the country: the guy won the popular vote.

I don’t blame you, personally.

But ultimately you share the responsibility of resolving the situation.

In my experience, people who get prickly about the basic facts (the guy won the popular vote, there is no failed system here… you literally can not blame the electoral college… merely a failure of the electorate) really are clamoring for a way to say “there is nothing I can do” and “Somehow someone has to do something but it’s not me and doing nothing is actually totally morally fine”

What is there to gain from calling people out? I want you to be honest enough about the facts of the matter that you are agitated enough to not go quietly into that goodnight. That you don’t tie off and mainline “Nothing I can do” just to sleep at night.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 May 02:25 collapse

I don’t want it to recover until it stop doing imperialism

radiofreebc@lemmy.world on 14 May 00:45 collapse

As long as Americans have stopped demanding the release of the Epstein Files, he is winning.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 14 May 05:29 collapse

only the voters to the left of “center right” demands the release. the right wing and gop are all not interested in releasing it. i think thats the biggest weakness, since only 1 side is demanding it. i dont think most of the dinos are either.