Mihies@programming.dev
on 02 Mar 12:12
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Moar, please.
SinningStromgald@lemmy.world
on 02 Mar 12:18
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Don’t think I have ever owned a Motorola phone but it seems I just might in 2027.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works
on 02 Mar 13:19
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My last one was in the naughts. When Nokia was still a market leader.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 Mar 13:30
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It’s been my main brand for a while now. Pretty good hardware with very few changes to base android. There are not many options in my country so from what’s available, Motorola is by far the best choice.
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
on 02 Mar 13:41
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I had the Razr V3M (the original one): It was a pretty solid phone.
Funny, my carrier just offered a free phone upgrade and I ordered a Motorola at random because I was growing increasingly annoyed by my Samsung. Luck was with me!
affenlehrer@feddit.org
on 02 Mar 12:28
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I’ve had a few moto phones and one edge, in general I was quite happy with them. Motorola doesn’t change the Android UI too much and only adds a few convenience functions.
Lenovo is walking on the razor’s edge. They are still a chinese company and can’t help themselves. My G23 had Lenovo’s adware instaled after a version upgrade, kept pushing for Live Lock Screens. Had to uninstall the crap on the user through adb, just disabling it didn’t work.
You have to think and view this deal as GrapheneOS with Lenovo, not with Motorola.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml
on 02 Mar 13:27
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Who cares? The people that aren’t technically adept and yet want out of Apple/Android.
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Mar 15:52
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Installing graphene is requires you to plug your phone into your laptop running google chrome and:
Visit a web page
Click three buttons
Click a setting in the settings menu on your phone
Restart your phone
If you can’t do that then you’re already incapable of operating a phone, and therefore its a moot point.
If the issue is you cant find the information then your skill issue isn’t with tech its with using a search engine.
Stop infantalizing people, and maybe google and apple wont be able to use the widespread expectance of instant convenience to normalize corporate malware like they have for the past 15 years.
I’m so sick of people acting like reading a web page and clicking through an install wizard requires a fucking C.S. degree. Its both insulting to the average user, and those with more knowledge.
pigeonofparadise@lemmy.org
on 02 Mar 16:42
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I think step two is where this person stops
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Mar 17:18
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It tells you on the page which one to click, what’s the issue?
This is like getting mad and calling cars bullshit because you didn’t know to put fucking gas in your car.
pigeonofparadise@lemmy.org
on 02 Mar 17:42
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I’m calling the user dumb.
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Mar 18:41
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They’re not dumb they’re just propagandized into being lazy.
Big tech companies convinced everyone their computers where magic and not machines they can understand if they put the effort into.
pigeonofparadise@lemmy.org
on 02 Mar 18:44
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Ok, propagandized? Please. They’re just fucking dumb as shit.
Not everything is a conspiracy.
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Mar 19:30
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Its not a conspiracy to say companies know they can boil they users like frogs if they dangle the carrot of convenience over them.
Routinely doing this gets people used to it, which pushes the boundaries of what the next company can get away with.
Ah the elitist attitude. “It’s easy for me do then it’s easy for everyone” “if you can’t do it then there’s something wrong with you”
Which ignores the fact that way too many apps and websites have their interfaces totally fucked up. So because of that many people just get really confused and then can’t figure it out.
Yeah maybe graphene might be different. But that is not the point. The point is most sites and apps are almost unusable. So when you tell someone to change their o/s they get the idea that it’s impossible and don’t look. So instead of pulling a crappy attitude try looking at it from the other side.
Either way. Have a nice day. Bye.
magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Mar 18:33
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Yeah maybe graphene might be different. But that is not the point. The point is most sites and apps are almost unusable. So when you tell someone to change their o/s they get the idea that it’s impossible and don’t look.
Yes it absolutely is and this is literally the problem I’m pointing out.
When you say its too hard it implies its because its difficult, which means it needs to be made easy.
Your issue is not educational, nor accessibility. Its that you don’t want to put fucking effort in. You want it to be done for you.
That’s it. That’s literally what I’ve been trying to get out of you fucks forever. That its not how hard something is. Its that you need it spoon fed.
You should feel shame for that.
Everyone who expects that should.
You’re an adult, you should be able to put effort into the machines that run your daily life.
Elitism means I think I’m better than you because I’m smarter, I don’t. I think you’re being a lazy fuck, and are capable of doing basic things, but don’t want to, its right here in your comment:
they don’t look
You’re capable, you just don’t.
This is like bitching you didn’t know your car needed gas or an oil change, then blaming it on the people who knew.
I’d prefer programmable button(s) like my current phone has.
Now, it’s a Ulefone, so in the full Ulefone spirit the software is bugged out due to power saving and often breaks with locked screen (only for the large flashlight).
user224@lemmy.sdf.org
on 02 Mar 17:29
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I really, really miss the fingerprint scanner navigation from my Moto G5s Plus. Unfortunately, nowadays phones have minimal bezels, so it’s not possible.
And yes, I would prefer bezels and 16:9 screen. It’s much easier to hold it that way. Or at least enough to get rid of cut-outs and curved corners. Give me all my pixels!
But also there was volume button music control, so I could skip songs without using the screen. Very useful at night, but also when just having the phone in a pocket.
Tap to adjust volume, hold to skip.
to expand Motorola’s B2B ecosystem with advanced security
Its probably gonna be their Thinkphone, currently they are about 500€ a piece, with a subscription for various business things
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 02 Mar 14:44
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Here’s hoping they’ve got a larger version of phone for whatever they end up with. The price gap for the pixel 9 XL (i got big hands, i couldn’t type reliably on a base model size) was kinda nuts
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
on 02 Mar 16:07
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If it ain’t got a jack, I gotta send it back.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 Mar 17:49
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I love my razr 2024, but I’ve been patiently waiting for graphene to support a decent non-google phone. Looks like I’m about to get the best of both worlds!
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Moar, please.
Don’t think I have ever owned a Motorola phone but it seems I just might in 2027.
My last one was in the naughts. When Nokia was still a market leader.
It’s been my main brand for a while now. Pretty good hardware with very few changes to base android. There are not many options in my country so from what’s available, Motorola is by far the best choice.
I had the Razr V3M (the original one): It was a pretty solid phone.
I’ve had a couple and always installef LineageOS. A custom ROM with the ability to keep the bootloader locked will be nice
In my experience, they have always been one of the less painful custom rom experiences, but for some reason, overlooked by the community
Yeah no idea why people are sleeping on the Motos. I love mine
Funny, my carrier just offered a free phone upgrade and I ordered a Motorola at random because I was growing increasingly annoyed by my Samsung. Luck was with me!
I’ve had a few moto phones and one edge, in general I was quite happy with them. Motorola doesn’t change the Android UI too much and only adds a few convenience functions.
Price / value ratio is also pretty good.
Lenovo is walking on the razor’s edge. They are still a chinese company and can’t help themselves. My G23 had Lenovo’s adware instaled after a version upgrade, kept pushing for Live Lock Screens. Had to uninstall the crap on the user through adb, just disabling it didn’t work.
You have to think and view this deal as GrapheneOS with Lenovo, not with Motorola.
Razr’s edge
I installed LineageOS on my Motorola. No adware to be seen. With an entirely separate ROM I dont see how it could be a problem
If you can load vanilla graphene on to it without compromise who gives a shit?
Who cares? The people that aren’t technically adept and yet want out of Apple/Android.
Installing graphene is requires you to plug your phone into your laptop running google chrome and:
If you can’t do that then you’re already incapable of operating a phone, and therefore its a moot point.
If the issue is you cant find the information then your skill issue isn’t with tech its with using a search engine.
Stop infantalizing people, and maybe google and apple wont be able to use the widespread expectance of instant convenience to normalize corporate malware like they have for the past 15 years.
I’m so sick of people acting like reading a web page and clicking through an install wizard requires a fucking C.S. degree. Its both insulting to the average user, and those with more knowledge.
I think step two is where this person stops
It tells you on the page which one to click, what’s the issue?
This is like getting mad and calling cars bullshit because you didn’t know to put fucking gas in your car.
I’m calling the user dumb.
They’re not dumb they’re just propagandized into being lazy.
Big tech companies convinced everyone their computers where magic and not machines they can understand if they put the effort into.
Ok, propagandized? Please. They’re just fucking dumb as shit.
Not everything is a conspiracy.
Its not a conspiracy to say companies know they can boil they users like frogs if they dangle the carrot of convenience over them.
Routinely doing this gets people used to it, which pushes the boundaries of what the next company can get away with.
Ah the elitist attitude. “It’s easy for me do then it’s easy for everyone” “if you can’t do it then there’s something wrong with you”
Which ignores the fact that way too many apps and websites have their interfaces totally fucked up. So because of that many people just get really confused and then can’t figure it out.
Yeah maybe graphene might be different. But that is not the point. The point is most sites and apps are almost unusable. So when you tell someone to change their o/s they get the idea that it’s impossible and don’t look. So instead of pulling a crappy attitude try looking at it from the other side.
Either way. Have a nice day. Bye.
Yes it absolutely is and this is literally the problem I’m pointing out.
When you say its too hard it implies its because its difficult, which means it needs to be made easy.
Your issue is not educational, nor accessibility. Its that you don’t want to put fucking effort in. You want it to be done for you.
That’s it. That’s literally what I’ve been trying to get out of you fucks forever. That its not how hard something is. Its that you need it spoon fed.
You should feel shame for that.
Everyone who expects that should.
You’re an adult, you should be able to put effort into the machines that run your daily life.
Elitism means I think I’m better than you because I’m smarter, I don’t. I think you’re being a lazy fuck, and are capable of doing basic things, but don’t want to, its right here in your comment:
You’re capable, you just don’t.
This is like bitching you didn’t know your car needed gas or an oil change, then blaming it on the people who knew.
That’s great, if I was going to pick a phone brand for Graphene it would be Motorola.
Gotta have that shake flashlight
I miss that on my x4
My Moto Edge has it. It’s so natural and I love it.
I’d prefer programmable button(s) like my current phone has.
Now, it’s a Ulefone, so in the full Ulefone spirit the software is bugged out due to power saving and often breaks with locked screen (only for the large flashlight).
I really, really miss the fingerprint scanner navigation from my Moto G5s Plus. Unfortunately, nowadays phones have minimal bezels, so it’s not possible.
And yes, I would prefer bezels and 16:9 screen. It’s much easier to hold it that way. Or at least enough to get rid of cut-outs and curved corners. Give me all my pixels!
But also there was volume button music control, so I could skip songs without using the screen. Very useful at night, but also when just having the phone in a pocket.
Tap to adjust volume, hold to skip.
Shake flashlight and twist camera, I use both every single day.
What’s a twist camera?
Im pretty simple. I’d like decent cameras and microsd card expansion.
Well, well, well, my next phone might just be a Motorola!
motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions…
Its probably gonna be their Thinkphone, currently they are about 500€ a piece, with a subscription for various business things
Here’s hoping they’ve got a larger version of phone for whatever they end up with. The price gap for the pixel 9 XL (i got big hands, i couldn’t type reliably on a base model size) was kinda nuts
If it ain’t got a jack, I gotta send it back.
I hope it’s a flip phone with 12 buttons on it
I will take any trash at this point, considering to hell hole that the smartphone market is now.
Prob my next phone.
Please don’t have a shit camera and I’m all in
Yeah that’s a worry eh. My phone I have now has a phenomenal camera. It’s the main reason I bought it.
I’m quite happy to have zero AI integration and pay a premium for an amazing camera.
I want this to be great but I worry they are going to have to make too many compromises AND it will still be expensive.
This is obviously all conjecture so I’m looking forward to seeing the specs
Dear Santa…
That’s all I want. Thank you.
I would also take a headphone jack if we could swing that.
I love my razr 2024, but I’ve been patiently waiting for graphene to support a decent non-google phone. Looks like I’m about to get the best of both worlds!
If it has expandable memory, I’m in