US military killed 160 school girls in Minab with Tomahawk missile
(www.wsws.org)
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from technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to world@lemmy.world on 11 Mar 15:28
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65173160
Analyses and video evidence emerged over the weekend showing that the air strike on the Shajareh Tayyebeh Girls’ Primary School on February 28—that killed over 160 girls aged 7 to 12—was carried out by the US military.
The girls’ school in Minab is in Iran’s southern Hormozgan province close to the Persian Gulf. The school was effectively pulverized by multiple blasts, and many of those killed were obliterated and could only be identified through DNA analysis. Footage showed bodies and body parts partially trapped under collapsed floors, alongside scattered schoolbags, notebooks and dust‑covered textbooks.
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Every person involved has more than earned their place in Hell.
School shootings have been a long USian tradition
(Sorry for the dark humour)
But it is funny, cause true?
Could you even imagine our response if the situation were reversed?
Yeah. We might bomb their schools and assassinate their leaders.
Edit: On second thought… we didn’t bomb Saudi Arabia for 9/11.
Yeah, that’s the fun thing about doing the worst shit you can think of on the first day, doesn’t really give you any options after that. We can really threaten Iran with actually we haven’t done.
Of course that is the MAGA Hallmark: evil, selfish, AND stupid.
You think this is the worst that could be done? I admire your optimism.
Once you start killing peoples kids, the only escalation is killing more of them.
How about causing lingering pain and suffering on a populace, including children. Theyre not dead (yet) but they suffer for as long as possible until they do.
Like Gaza.
We’re already doing that, they purposely attacked a water desalinization plant a few days ago.
So they are escalating.
Purposely.
It is anti christian to attack the family of the person you want to kill. That was a founding principle of christianity, to end blood feuds.
Christianity was founded because it made it easy for rulers to control their population because they could make people accept a miserable and short life in exchange for intangible rewards later. It is not hard to figure out who benefits from a religious concept that nothing that happens to you in reality is important.
First they tried to suppress christianity, they couldn’t keep the crazies at bay so they rewrote it to be a better slave religion, cherrypicking biblical texts to include in the Bible.
That it promised to end blood feuds is also true, even if the birthplace of christianity in europe has long been the most famous for such blood feuds.
“We can really threaten Iran with actually we haven’t done”
What?
Also isn’t it kind of funny that Iran had nothing to do with 9/11 and it was in fact Saudi Arabia and yet we keep peddling this trope about Iran…?
Have I caught the Iran-Iraq confusion in the wild?
Instead we opted for regime change in Afghanistan. Look how that turned out.
Don’t forget pressing child soldiers into Zero Units - groups trained, armed, and directed by CIA and JSOC to torture, rape, and kill entire families and terrorize entire villages.
Straight to WWIV. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
Given the fact that the rape of more than 1,000 young girls by Epstein and his billionaire friends had no consequences whatsoever, and that the cold-blooded murder of these innocent Iranian schoolgirls, which is part of the US regime’s cover-up efforts, also has no consequences for those responsible, I would say that the US response would probably be to elevate the culprits to government office.
Thoughts and prayers? That’s usually what happens when US school children die.
The only thing that could’ve saved them was a good guy with a
gunBGM-109 Tomahawk Land Attack Missile!!!“Thanks to our boys in blue and having access to a BGM-109 Tomahawk. The police were able to neutralize the shooter with no injuries to our brave officers. Our initial investigation shows that all the children were dead before the Tomahawk hit the target. This is contrary to eye witness reports who are falsely claiming that all the school children were alive. As a city, we are going to continue to purchase discounted US military equipment to protect our beloved citizens.”
No he meant like in Ukraine. You know, where it really matters. Russia bad, remember?
Trump killed school girls
Let’s not forget who specifically ordered this war to be started. All headlines should start with Trump ordered children to be murdered or Trump is getting people killed or Trump has raised oil prices and people are beginning to starve or Trump closed off shipping lanes
He has raped school girls too. I need to replace the pic inside the helmet to one with both Jeff and Don in it.
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It’s totally up to him, notwithstanding what people he talks to and Fox News tell him what to think.
He is surrounded by yes men who actually tried to dissuade him from attacking Iran, but still support his every demented decision.
Unfortunately, it’s not entirely up to Trump. Iran isn’t going to back down just because Trump is all* “Oh, jk, lol!” *
160 Iranian schoolgirls were killed by an American missile strike. Trump is still in denial. How do you suppose that sits with the Iranian people?
Nobody wants to do this. It’s only him. /s
There is a thing called impeachment. Trump gave enough causes. It’s the majority of the US elite who wants this war or they would remove him.
Yes, but don’t give the soldiers that pulled the trigger a pass. They’re legally required to not follow illegal orders. All of them should be court marshalled and charged with war crimes.
It’s unclear to me whether they would have known about this. I presume cross checking the targets should be done at each level down to the person pulling the trigger.
Is it confirmed that everyone in the chain knew?
Compartmentalization. They get told “here is an Iranian military target, hit it”. So they do. Asking questions is strongly discouraged.
What are you basing that off of?
Yes. They’re nazis.
I suppose I don’t know. I should rephrase that whoever knew and ordered it should be in the hot seat. Word is that it was old target data they were going on. That by itself is a failure if true, which isn’t excusable. I’d be interested in when that school was built or transitioned to a school and the age of the data. This may be the result of a pedophile and his hair trigger war drive that meant due diligence wasn’t done.
For what? How could they possibly know that it was a school? They aren’t privy to the intel. They are on a boat or a base, maybe hundreds of miles away. They receive an order to fire on a location and follow the order.
That’s exactly what they signed up for. Grunt work. Following orders.
I rephrased in a follow up to someone else’s comment. The people that ordered the strike on old Intel should be charged. There were failures in the process, and those responsible should be held responsible.
Yes, they should be charged. But they won’t be charged, because the executive branch is the very branch that runs law enforcement and the military. Why would they give themselves a black eye?
If you were to throw a rock or fire a bullet, you are expected to LOOK where that projectile is going. You are held accountable for that action even if you miss your target. Only a child is deemed unaccountable for that sort action (up to about age 2). This is magnitudes more important when the missile explodes in a radius the size of a house. So there’s NO EXCUSE for the grunt on any level who pushes the button, and doesn’t LOOK or know where it is going. Are you saying military grunts are to tried as toodlers?!? for the crimes they commit?
They weren’t throwing rocks. They weren’t shooting a rifle. They were shooting missiles.
Again, the soldier who fired that missile would have no idea what sort of building he’s been ordered to strike. That soldier is sitting in a command center somewhere, miles away from the front line, feeding coordinates into a targeting system.
And, yes, grunts are usually treated EXACTLY like toddlers, especially in military court. That’s why they’re called “grunts”. They are trained to follow orders. They are trained to push the button without question. THAT’S THEIR JOB.
Now, if a grunt is given an order which directly violates the military law, they can refuse. So, if their commanding officer said “Hey, I want you to kill those 170 underage civilians”, then the grunt can (and should) say “Hell no, sir”. That wasn’t the case here. There’s no reason for the grunt to refuse the order, because the grunt is just targeting a building, with a missile.
Nuremberg defense. They were just following orders. I hope they learn what they did. That’s enough for anybody to unalive themselves.
Can you not see why that is the problem?
If your commanding officer tells you to fire anywhere, you should be expected to know where that is. Obviously “grunts” should have some kind of visual access to the target they are firing at, so they can decide for themselves if it is a military law crime. Otherwise you are just preforming the Milgram shock experiment with real consequences.
I can’t speak for what actually happens, or what even what SOP in the armed forces might be in this situation.
SO…I googled it. Here’s the levels of complexity involved in a Tomahawk missle strike:
Command and Authorization (Top-Down Flow)
Authorization: The process starts with a decision by the President, often passed through the National Security Council to the Secretary of Defense, and then to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Command Channel: The Joint Chiefs convey the order to a regional commander (e.g., U.S. Central Command or Indo-Pacific Command). Execution Order: The regional commander transmits the target information and engagement requirements to the specific launch platforms (ships or submarines).
Transmitting the Order to the Specialist
Secure Communications: The order is sent via secured, encrypted digital communications to the vessel’s Tomahawk Strike Coordinator (TSC) or equivalent senior operator. TTWCS Integration: The data is directly integrated into the Tactical Tomahawk Weapons Control System (TTWCS) on board. Mission Planning: The TTWCS allows the crew to plan the route or receive pre-planned, digital target coordinates, known as a Missile Sequence Number (MSN) task.
Action by the Specialized Operator (Launch Team)
Mission Assignment: The firing platform’s operators receive a digital tasker, which includes primary and sometimes backup assignments. Validation: Specialists on the bridge/combat center verify the target and launch authorization. Targeting Data Entry: The TTWCS is updated with the new target data, which may include GPS coordinates. Block IV missiles can be reprogrammed in-flight, but the launch command requires pre-defined parameters. Launch Sequence: The operators execute the final launch sequence, which involves the missile being ejected by a solid-fuel booster from the Vertical Launching System (VLS).
SO, at which point should the crew have refused the order? Where does the blame lay?
Me thinks the lady doth protest too much. Did something like this happen to you or someone you know? It did indeed happen to a couple of my family members, but that doesn’t make it excusable. Growing up in a military city has taught me there is no end to the amount of technical mumbo-jumbo an organization will come up with to dodge accountability for an immoral act.
They assist their grunts in this accountability-dodging too, for better compliance (so they don’t go home and shoot themselves). The better part of them choose to drink themselves to death anyways because they know, deep down, that what they have done is wrong regardless of how many loopholes you try and bake in to the process.
This is why the PROCESS needs to change. We need to find some way to give them the information they need, the accountability, AND the permission to deny orders without repercussion.
Dunno what to tell ya. The process is what it is. What we are seeing is a failure of of the entire system of checks and balances. The legislative and judicial branches refuse to reign in the executive branch. IMHO, our Congress members and Supreme Court are more culpable for those girls’ deaths than the soldier who fired that missile.
We know.
“They were just following orders”
Kinda like brave djihadists on the 7th of october am i right?
There’s no “just” about it. They were following orders AND they did not know. They couldn’t have known. The soldiers are given coordinates, not the details about what the structure is used for.
The Nazis at Nuremburg could not claim ignorance. There was a clear paper trail. Nazis had killed millions for the reason of ethnic cleansing. They did it for years. They kept records.
Tell me, how are these situations similar?
They knew they were bombing an enemy country unprovoked, which is illegal under international laws. I know you’re an american and thus a nazi, and that could have happened to you, but here’s an idea: maybe don’t enlist in an imperlalist force that kills children for breakfast.
You got me twisted, my friend. I fully condemn the military actions. All of them.
But assigning blame to some random soldier? It’s like screaming at the waitress over a menu item. She didn’t write the menu, she doesn’t cook the food, she has literally no power over anyone.
No. It’s like screaming at the waitress who served arsenic to kids and killed 160 of them while knowing full well the restaurant sometimes do that
How does it feel downplaying war crime?
It seems like assigning the blame solely to the soldier is downplaying the crime. Why don’t you want the entire chain of command prosecuted?
I do. Hang them.
This is not an individual failure. It’s a systemic failure. Americans should pay for this. With their blood.
scholarlycommons.law.case.edu/…/viewcontent.cgi?a…
Show me where does it speak about knowledge. You’re just moving the goalpost to defend your little war criminal buddies.
Nope. Not gonna read a 23 page document. YOU tell ME how it’s similar. Or at least copy/paste the relevant information.
Second, I’m all about prosecuting war crimes. I’d love to see this one prosecuted. How about we actually investigate it, too? Maybe, I dunno, find out who gave the order. If bad intel was passed. If the leaders knew about the bad intel but decided to proceed.
Ofc, this won’t actually happen. The “war” is just another distraction, until the next manufactured crisis and the next until humanity snuffs itself out with its own all-too-clever Machiavellian schemes.
But by all means, throw the full weight of social justice at the poor sap who has to live with knowing his finger pushed a button that killed 160 innocent girls. Beloved daughters and sisters, erased from this world to amuse a demented billionaire’s ego.
You’re a bad faithed war crime apologist lmao.
“They were just following orders” “So like the nazis” “No, not like that!!!”
Nobody cares about your internal politics buddy. Maybe we could bomb one of your school to bring freedom to the USA
Yeah might as well just hang him. It’d just be mercy killing at this point
Right. They don’t know anything at all about what they’re shooting at all because it’s abstract and viewed through computer screen.
However they do know that the these orders are coming down from three possible sources. 1. Targeting specialists using enshitified useless AI services. 2. Chatbots themselves or 3. Child raping genocide mongers.
Which why they just shouldn’t do it. Go to the brig. Sabotage the missile with a fork lift accident. Fake illness. Anything. I don’t care, do whatever you have to do to not be party to this monstrous thing that’s trying to burn the world down so Jesus will come back. And that’s why they are still responsible for it.
He’s a piece of shit everyone already knows it. I think less talk about him is better. He’s a tool of the party, this doesn’t end with him.
I think this is probably to a degree correct.
Nobody talks about Project 2025 anymore. Apparently the administration went right through that step by step, Heritage Foundation wasn’t built for Trump, but he did deliver them a lot of what they wanted. I find it hard to believe these Republicans associate themselves with Heritage foundation yet are that unhappy when that plan is in large portions delivered.
A lot of people wonder why the Republicans don’t push back more, usually putting it down to fear of being primaried. I can’t help thinking a lot of the talk about Republican lawmaker’s anger and hate directed towards the US President in the Capitol are crocodile tears, and they’re just saving face while they wave through the destructive changes they’ve always argued for.
No thanks.
The US did this. This began in like 1908. Trump wasn’t even born yet. The USA is an evil empire and needs to be ripped out root and branch. Capitalism has to go.
None of this will be fixed without a revolution so bloody Mao would be uncomfortable and the glassing of Israel.
Oh, my. The US is so very, very far away from a revolution. The citizens are hopelessly outgunned. The police have been militarizing since the 80s, and there’s always the Army/National Guard if things get really wild.
Further, the people who are most likely to call for revolution are the least likely to own firearms or have military training. MAGA is armed to the teeth - the Dems and progressives, not so much.
So, I’m afraid you’ll have to choose Door #2 - a slow descent into authoritarianism and fascism. (But at least ICE can provide “security” for our “fair and free” elections.)
The only person denying this is Donald Trump. Even the US military isn’t disowning this incident.
Not just that. He’s suggesting that it was false flag op by Iran using their own “tomahawks”, because everybody has them.
Because that is what Israel lied when they blew up that palestinian hospital and the president thought he could get away with it too. Fucking dumb piece of shit that he is.
If ONLY we Didn’t kill Charlie Kirk then we WOULDNT have had to BOMB Iranian Schoolchildren!
-Republicans!
Good fucking god, this needs to hit all the news. Will it air on any USian tv channel ? I assume never ?
It’s been all over our non-Fox News news.
fantastic
The Trump Americans dont care. Hell every year kids get murdered in their schools and all they say is prayers and thoughts. Seriously despicable people.
According to Iran it was a double tap strike. The girls all gathered in a single location after the first strike and then the US bombed them again around 40 minuten later.
I mean, you don’t blow up a school if you don’t want to kill as many kids as possible.
At least it’s not a politically correct, woke war.
/s
Apparently it was due to old intel pre-2015 (when the building was repurposed as a school) where that building was allegedly an ammo depot of the military complex besides… bombing with 10 year old intel, for sure a lack of care for human lives
Oh? What about all the other civilian targets we hit? Were those formerly ammo dumps too?
That would be seriously lazy intelligence though…
No parents, students or teachers in Minab ever posted a picture or video of the school since 2015?
That information mashes me sick to my stomach. I hope to God that’s not true, but like, it’s totally believable without any empirical evidence
I think it is true because killing 180 people with two missiles is almost impossible unless they are all gathered very closely.
Gathered closely, like, you mean by just so happening to all be in the same school building?
All to protect pedophiles
Pretty sure they know nothing of consequence will happen for all the raping they did, this little religious war is just fun for them.
US saved more women from future oppression. Freedom spread successfully. /s Depressing more people aren’t outraged at this massacre to be serious.
This is considered an achievement because all those girls can no longer grow up to make more Muslims.
Why is the press obsessing over schoolgirls? The whole country is being bombed, none of it is good.
Uhhh … Probably because killing children is universally considered worse than other crimes?
Americans have done thousands of 9/11 and yet they arent satisfied with their bloodlust
If a single church was damaged, Iran could just start calling Trump the murder of Christians and destroy his entire base and undermine the US military in a devastating way
No, those would be them A-rab Christians, not real ones. I know that Iranians aren’t Arab, but they don’t.
It doesn’t matter in terms of optics, it is about breaking the support chain and a single church is all that it takes (if the event occurred on a Sunday it would be even more effective)
I assure you that his supporters wouldn’t care in the slightest.
It is not about the MAGA cult supporters but the evangelical church ecosystem that is much larger
How many supposedly Christian values has he broken? (all of them)
How many Evangelical churches have disavowed him?
Been asleep 11 years now? Literally every possible crime is known to be committed by trump. None of them care. The list is way too long to type out but among his crimes: he killed tens of thousands with COVID misinformation/inaction, he is known to have raped many children and women, and also he called veterans losers and suckers for being in the military. He said he could grab any woman by the pussy and she would like it. He mocked a disabled reporter. He gassed protestors to take a fake picture with him holding an upside down bible. He led an insurrection of the US Capitol. He asked an official in Georgia to “find X more votes,” which is as close as you can get to explicitly asking him to commit voter fraud. None of them care about any of this shit. They would be tripping over themselves to excuse his “grave mistake” if he killed a bunch of Christians in a church. They wouldn’t even pause to do so. This is the most prolific cult in human history. There are psychos in other countries that are in it even. Again I ask… Where you been?
They shrugged it off when churches were damaged in Gaza, why would this be any different?
There’s this city in the West Bank called Bethlehem, I guess some famous dude was born there. The churches in Bethlehem weren’t able to have Christmas celebrations for two years due to Israel’s genocide.
How did evangelicals respond? Polling says 65% support Israel’s military action in Gaza, even after two years of indiscriminate bombing, death marches, forced starvation, and torture camps.
Our christians on his side don’t care. If they aren’t already opposed they are on a dark trip and won’t be turned aside. Israel targeted the family of a former tea party us representative, Justin Amash, one of the only republicans to vote for impeachment in prez’s first term, they were huddled in their eastern orthodox church in Gaza and Israel wiped them out. I know it was on purpose.
Someone pressed the button to kill children, then pressed again to kill more. I am not mad at dt but at that human who pressed the button. Why cant every soldier just say no and kill the one who told him to do the war crime
The ones with morals already left the force
In this case, it sounds like the school used to be part of the neighboring base, so the US intelligence was just very outdated. So the guy with his finger on the trigger was probably told it was a military target.
The guy with his finger on the trigger wasn’t told a goddamn thing. Conversation went like this:
“Fire on these coordinates.”
“Yessir.”
That’s the thing with wars, when you start one, innocents die and suffer. There are no clean wars, no surgical strikes, nothing of that bullshit. When you do this, you’re ok with innocents paying the price. It’s especially vile when you do it from across the globe nonchalantly.
Because soldiers follow orders.
How would that soldier know that the school was filled with children? He’s sitting 100 miles away, on a boat. His commanding officer gives him a set of coordinates to fire upon. The soldier follows orders, because that’s his only job.
And his CO also doesn’t know jack about the targets. He gets a list of targets, he confirms if he can achieve them and reports success or failure
Anyone thinking that military, any military, entertains debate and full disclosures once the orders are given is just fucking with reality.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders
How is this relevant?
The person pushing the button was probably deliberately NOT told it was filled with children but that it was a high value target.
Headline is misleading, sounds like it was actually multiple missiles.
According to the survivors it was, they said they the first blast made the principal move everyone to the common room for shelter, and the second one struck and killed almost everyone in the shelter.
Double tapped a school. Let that sink in.
Amerikkka: Tired of killing kids in its own schools, now killing kids in other countries’ schools
Now?
Noone shall say that kids in American schools are less safe!
What’s the point of schoolchildren if the president can’t fuck them?
The cruelty is the point. They’re just wanting to destroy key infrastructure and kill as many children as possible. We learned well from Israel.
Exactly how does one bomb a country without cruelty? How is a school of girls any different than the rest of the country blown apart?
Do we expect to end the war with images of dead puppies?
Because the world is fucked up in killing adult civilians doesn’t get the moral outrage it should compared to children. Society is particularly more sensitive to children being directly attacked than it was a hundred years ago.
So the point is to appeal to fucking idiots? you think MAGA cares about brown kids?
Wow, you’re entirely hostile and thus not worth trying to discuss with.
who tf downvoted you? Butthurt USians who couldn’t handle the truth?
Probably just a stickler for spelling errors.
It was no fucking accident!
AI said, it was an excellent choice and that we clearly were thinking outside the box.
well, yeah. that’s what the bad guys do.
Those missiles could have gone to Ukraine to defend against russian tanks, but for some reason the current US administration said we couldn’t afford it…
Weird…
The us military gets a trillion a year and they’re already screaming they’re low on munitions.
They also didn’t bother to consider maybe they might need some anti-drone technology before invading the country that manufacturers russia’s drones. You know, like that laser in arizona that shot down a party balloon or something…
And Iran killed 30,000 of its OWN PEOPLE IN JANUARY. Incomparable number
Since it’s a fake number, just make it bigger. then, you have two fake numbers to compare.
Like the 100 million alleged victims of communism when literally the only source of theirs (the black book of communism) doesn’t even say that… And they sometimes even say it is 200 million with zero evidence.
Communism has killed literally BILLIONS of people, while capitalism helps build strong bodies 12 ways!
Sure, Israel managed to kill 72,000 Gazans in like 2.5 years of genocide, but Iran managed to kill half as many in only a few weeks. Get a grip.
Both can be awful.
Google? What say you?
Based on reports from early 2026, there have been allegations and estimates suggesting a high death toll during crackdowns on protests in Iran, with some sources, including reports cited by TIME magazine, indicating that over 30,000 people may have been killed by security services on Jan. 8 and 9, 2026. However, this figure is highly disputed and the subject of intense media contention:
High Estimates: Reports from Iranian interior ministry sources and TIME suggested over 30,000 deaths in a massive, rapid crackdown, with bodies reportedly transported in trucks and the exhaustion of body bags.
Government Denials: The Iranian Foreign Ministry has dismissed reports of a 30,000+ death toll as a “Hitler-style BIG LIE”.
Official Figures: The Iranian government has acknowledged a much lower death toll of 3,117, claiming this number includes civilians, security forces, and those they termed “terrorists”.
Other Estimates: Other reports have indicated varied, yet still high, estimates, including over 16,500 dead, 7,000 killed according to activists, or a lower figure of around 1,300, as reported in other updates during that volatile period.
According to the genociders the genocidees are bad
And the answer to that is murdering children?
Whataboutism is stupid enough as is, you don’t need to aspire to make it dumber.
America not content with the school massacres on it’s own soil. smh
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The USA killed hundreds of thousands of children in Iraq, they are just warming up to SAVE DEMOCRACY, which requires many thousands of stacked up baby bodies
For the sake of those kids and their families, I hope your numbers are off. I can’t find anything to corroborate your claim, but feel free to provide specifics/sources.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/…/fulltext
The US must demand the heads of whichever evil shits did this. Not the people who were instructed, the people who made the decisions.
EDIT I’ve been convinced by some of the arguments and then re-reading history about Nazi Germany through to Colonel Oliver North. The people who physically pull the trigger can, in a hearing, be allowed to explain why they pull that trigger. I would imagine that this buries the people making the decisions higher than their neck.
Nah the shitheads that pulled the trigger can get it, too.
“I was just following orders.”
How would Americans reasonably react if this happened to one of their schools by another country. Have to specify where this would be by another country as we all know they don’t care if it was an American
Since when did the us care if their schools get shot up?
The article claims video evidence that it was a U.S. missile. So where’s the video?
Don’t forget that abortion is a sin, btw.