Trump expands sanctions on Cuba with new executive order (www.independent.co.uk)
from TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world to world@lemmy.world on 01 May 19:01
https://lemmy.world/post/46310843

President Donald Trump on Friday signed an executive order broadening U.S. sanctions against the Cuban government, two White House officials told Reuters. He seeks to put more pressure on Havana, following his administration’s challenge to Venezuela’s leadership. The new sanctions target people, entities and affiliates supporting Cuba’s security apparatus, or those complicit in corruption or serious human rights violations, officials said. Government agents, officials or supporters are also included. It was not immediately clear which specific people or entities were impacted by the sanctions under the order, which Reuters first reported. The order authorizes secondary sanctions for conducting or facilitating transactions with those targeted under the order, officials said.

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[deleted] on 01 May 19:13 next collapse
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Eldritch@piefed.world on 01 May 19:30 next collapse

There’s no guarantee of that. As long as trump is still alive and in office, worse is almost guaranteed. He and his sycophants have already discussed outright invading Cuba. Cuba isn’t stirring it up. They’re responding to the violence already inflicted.

I am anti authoritarian/authority. I’m against our government and Cuba’s. But of all the problems with Cuba’s government. This is the US’s fault.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 19:34 collapse

Well they went from no guarantee to further sanctions, so I hope they have fun with that. If things escalate further and bombs start flying the only thing I’ll have to say about it is “called it.”

Cuba’s dictatorship problems started with their sponsorship from the USSR and later China. Blaming that on only the USA is ridiculous.

Theprogressivist@lemmy.world on 01 May 19:33 next collapse

All they have to do is lay low and keep their mouths shut for a while and then trade could start again.

Because placating to fascists is always going to get you what you want.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 19:36 collapse

They’ve already spent the last 67 years placating to Red Fascists, it’s not a big ask that they don’t create their own suffering by intentionally mouthing off at the orange geriatric.

Theprogressivist@lemmy.world on 01 May 19:55 collapse

Good job on moving them goalposts. This is practically genocide and your answer to this is suck it up. Fuck you, dude.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 20:39 collapse

The difference between this and a genocide is that genocides generally aren’t opt-in. This shit isn’t happening in Trinidad. It’s not happening in Okinawa. It’s not happening in Madagascar. Can you figure out what ways Cuba is different?

Fuck Around: Find Out

Theprogressivist@lemmy.world on 01 May 20:40 collapse

Good job showing how much of a real piece of fucking shit you are, champ.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 20:43 collapse

Oh, is my opposition to autocracy and militant dictatorship what makes me a “piece of fucking shit”? How very “progressive” of you. I should be cheering Cubans on as they jump into the lion cage, like you and all the tankies. /s

Theprogressivist@lemmy.world on 01 May 20:48 collapse

It’s the cuban people who are dying you stupid fuck. The regime can survive but the people won’t. Might as well suck trumps dick at this point since youre cheerleading this sick fucks demented actions. You and people like you make me sick being American. Get help you sick fuck.

Have fun screaming into the void. Ain’t replying.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 20:54 collapse

That’s the thing fuckin tankies struggle with the most to understand, is that I don’t have to support either side of any conflict.

I insult that PDF file daily, but one thing I can absolutely assure you of is that the Cuban regime cannot survive without the people. If they were smart the people would be trying to reform and build analogical bridges. They would not be rallying behind their idiot “president” who is willing to sacrifice Cuban life in order to create slight advantages for Russian and Iranian conflicts.

As far as I’m concerned, the majority of Cubans are equivalent to MAGAts.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 01 May 19:40 next collapse

Are you even aware the horrors Trump has caused Cuba? USA has made a blockade so Cuba can’t get any oil, and people are fucking dying because of it!!

And you say they should just soak it up?
Fuck USA for being inhumane psychopaths, who want to be in control of the entire world, no matter how much harm it causes others. And fuck people like you for blaming the victim.

Cuba never did anything to USA, and USA has undermined the Cuban economy for more than 60 years now!!
USA is committing crimes against humanity, and what they do to Cuba is only one of them.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 20:37 collapse

I’m not seeing the logic in the argument that more harm in the future is okay because of some harm now. If you were against harm then you would want less of it, now and in the future.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 01 May 20:42 collapse

You are babbling and not making any sense whatsoever, I have no way to put a fitting context onto whatever those words are supposed to mean?
What is the more harm? more harm than what? What are the harms in the now and in the future?

All we know for sure is that USA has brought a lot of harm to Cuba,and Cuba has brought zero harm to USA.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 20:46 collapse

Cuba has brought zero harm to USA.

LMFAO

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 01 May 21:22 next collapse

Yes because Cuba is such a big powerful country, and USA is very scared of them. Therefore USA has tried to kill Cuban leaders multiple times, manipulated global markets to immense harm to the Cuban economy, sanctioned Cuba for 60 years, and is now blockading oil to Cuba so even hospitals can’t function, and people die.

And what is the crime Cuba did? Having free healthcare?

You may laugh, that’s OK, it only shows what kind of person you are.

Typhoon@lemmy.ca on 01 May 21:33 collapse

If it’s so funny then you can easily provide us with a list of terrible harm Cuba has done to the US since Trump’s been in office. I’ll even give you back to his first presidency.

How has Cuba harmed the US since 2017? Be specific.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 21:51 collapse

They continue to be militarily allied with the same sponsors of Venezuela and Iran, ironically those sponsors are the same countries that helped get Trump reelected, and once in history Cuba was used to field nuclear weapons aimed at the USA. Of course, that’s got absolutely nothing to do with why Trump is bullying them. It’s because they keep talking shit over the social media loudspeakers in order to divert US Military attention away from Iran at the cost of cuban lives and livelihoods.

Typhoon@lemmy.ca on 01 May 21:56 next collapse

They’re allies of people you don’t like? How does that harm the US. That’s what I asked.

Then you said none of the first part of your comment matters because the only reason is that they’re talking shit. That’s the reason for killing them? They’re too mouthy for you? You’re just as petty and small minded as Trump if that’s the justification for defending him.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 22:00 collapse

ALL PRAISE THE NUCLEAR FIRE! I WAS A FOOL, I TURNED AWAY AND CLOSED MY EYES, BUT THE FIRES SHINE THROUGH! EMBRACE THE LIGHT, BROTHERS AND SISTERS! /Sarcasm

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 02 May 01:51 collapse

I feel like you have a wall somewhere with lots of red yarn connecting photographs.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 02 May 01:52 collapse

You heard it here, folks, the cold war is a conspiracy. China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea: all democracies. /sarcasm

vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works on 02 May 01:53 next collapse

unironically everything you just said is correct.

You are brainwashed little redditor.

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 02 May 01:55 collapse

I love when people make-up things I said, implied or believe.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 02 May 02:01 collapse

If you think that’s a wild take then you will be surprised to find a user replied to my comment before you certifying that they 100% actually believe that. It’s called a “Tankie”, supporters of autocratic regimes in Russia and China, and by extension their military allies Indonesia, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea. They have a huge presence on the fediverse because the developers of the Lemmy platform are Tankies themselves, which is why many users migrated to Piefed instances.

newthrowaway20@lemmy.world on 01 May 19:55 next collapse

Cuban citizens were taking videos of a rally in the streets supporting aggression with the USA.

I wonder what the USA did to warrant such a negative reaction?

You wouldn’t think America’s own actions has anything to do with it, would you?

All they have to do is lay low and keep their mouths shut for a while and then trade could start again.

Things an abuser says for 100.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 20:41 collapse

I wonder what the USA did to warrant such a negative reaction?

An eye for an eye kills thousands of Cubans, potentially starves millions, maybe try to move things in the opposite direction?

Witchfire@lemmy.world on 01 May 21:16 next collapse

Posts like this are why I love being able to tag people (Boost/Android)

otter@lemmy.ca on 01 May 21:28 next collapse

All they have to do is lay low and keep their mouths shut for a while and then trade could start again

As a Canadian, this does absolutely nothing.

You can do every single thing the americans are asking for, and the deals will STILL be thrown out the next day.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 22:01 collapse

I don’t see Canada under an endless Embargo.

otter@lemmy.ca on 01 May 22:42 collapse

How would being under an endless embargo make the current administration any more trustworthy or likely to hold up their end of a deal?

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 01 May 22:44 collapse

“Current administration”…?

There is nothing recent or immediate about hostilities with Cuba, friend. Things are getting demonstrably getting worse for Cuba specifically because of the things they’ve been doing and saying, and no other reason.

otter@lemmy.ca on 01 May 23:01 collapse

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_thaw

Or if you want to read this one in context

en.wikipedia.org/…/United_States_embargo_against_…

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 02 May 00:34 collapse

Okay? And?

grte@lemmy.ca on 02 May 02:59 collapse

Absolutely psychotic take. Cuba has done nothing to warrant all this.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 02 May 03:02 next collapse

Cuba had every capability of avoiding this outcome, demonstrable by the fact that THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN TO OTHER COUNTRIES. Cuba has every tool at its disposal to stop this immediately. Remove the despots from power, stop cooperating with adversarial nations on the other side of the globe. Simple as.

grte@lemmy.ca on 02 May 03:04 collapse

This is like telling the victim of a rape to say I consent to stop getting raped. Like, an actual very stupid thing to say.

“Listen, you have all the tools to stop this rape. Just consent so it’s not rape anymore.”

-The thoughts of a deranged person.

FiniteBanjo@feddit.online on 02 May 03:27 collapse

Your message is like telling a woman to stop carrying mace to defend herself from rape, to take down the restraining order so the rapist and his convicted felon rapist friends can move into the next apartment over.

grte@lemmy.ca on 02 May 03:30 collapse

…I see this particular mind was not done being deranged.

osanna@lemmy.vg on 02 May 03:19 collapse

wtf. Yes they have. They’re brown!

jambudz@lemmy.zip on 01 May 19:52 next collapse

At what point is this embargo different than genocide?

Witchfire@lemmy.world on 01 May 20:32 next collapse

It’s been one since the 60s

Pat_Riot@lemmy.today on 01 May 20:35 next collapse

Well, you see, genocide is very much in vogue right now. Our president is just being fashionable.

mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 May 23:44 collapse

Already a genocide

Elilol@fedinsfw.app on 01 May 19:56 next collapse

What are they gonna take next? oxigen?

muxika@piefed.muxika.org on 01 May 21:39 collapse
grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one on 01 May 23:20 next collapse

convicted felon , murderous insane racist thug—**47

atzanteol@sh.itjust.works on 02 May 01:48 next collapse

Bully has to go back to picking on somebody who won’t fight back.

CircaV@lemmy.ca on 02 May 04:31 collapse

US fail.