Russia won't accept Nato troops in Ukraine, Lavrov says after talks with US (www.bbc.com)
from HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to world@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 17:54
https://sh.itjust.works/post/33031945

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said his country won’t accept peacekeeping forces from Nato countries in Ukraine under any peace deal, following high-level talks with the US in Saudi Arabia.

“Any appearance by armed forces under some other flag does not change anything. It is of course completely unacceptable,” he said. Russia and the US said they had agreed to appoint teams to start negotiating the end of the war.

“Today is the first step of a long and difficult journey, but an important one”, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said following the meeting.

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HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 17:56 next collapse

Warmongers refuse to be watched commiting atrocities.

Whatever.

andrewta@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 17:59 collapse

If Ukraine asks for them then send them.

DevCat@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 18:11 next collapse

This is like sovereign citizens saying they don’t consent to being arrested. Did anybody hear us asking for permission?

HikingVet@lemmy.ca on 18 Feb 18:34 next collapse

So?

HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 18:45 next collapse

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AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today on 18 Feb 18:55 next collapse

Why are all of your comments from a bad LLM? Like, nearly all of them.

meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 19:01 next collapse

Why are all of your replies indistinguishable from a bored algorithm trying to pass the Turing test? If you’re fishing for originality, maybe try harder than regurgitating the same tired insult.

Engage with the substance or don’t bother. Otherwise, you’re just proving my point about the digital colosseum—hot takes, zero depth

AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today on 18 Feb 19:03 next collapse

“engage with substance as I post LLM slop with no substance at all”

SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 19:36 next collapse

Flashy words to hide the complete lack of substance.

meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works on 18 Feb 19:39 collapse

Ah, the irony of accusing others of lacking substance while offering a response that could be mistaken for a placeholder text generator. If you’re going to critique, at least muster the effort to rise above the intellectual equivalent of a shrug.

Substance isn’t flashy words; it’s depth of thought, something your reply seems allergic to. Engage or don’t, but spare us the performative dismissal—it’s tedious.

SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 19:54 next collapse

Flashy words to hide the complete lack of substance, again.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 19:54 next collapse

Substance isn’t flashy words; it’s depth of thought,

I’m seeing neither.

boredtortoise@lemm.ee on 19 Feb 13:06 collapse

I think I’ve upvoted when I’ve found your comments to be on point regardless of the style choices. Hostility destroys the substance you’re trying to convey. Better to disregard the blame from those who get stuck with the format, provoking back never works.

kuato@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 22:24 collapse

Why are all of your replies indistinguishable from a bored algorithm

Why do you keep projecting onto others the thing that people keep saying about you: that you write like a bot?

P1nkman@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 21:07 collapse

Jesus, I love the block function on Lemmy. Another one goes on the list.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 19:16 next collapse

I’m sure all the families of the people in Ukraine who have died will be relieved to know that at least they didn’t die in the real war.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 19:52 next collapse

What a shit take.

LongLive@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 22:15 collapse

I have trouble making sense of your proposed world view. Your (well) organized comment gestures wildly at a bigger picture, implying there is something that one cannot observe by merely reading news. On its own that would be a straightforward idea, but you continue and claim that there is/are something/s governing the governments?
I request, please, more information.

kuato@lemmy.world on 19 Feb 00:33 collapse

Their comments are not well organized. Look at their comment history; they write like a bot trained to generate pseudo-profound bullshit.

gibmiser@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 19:23 next collapse

Ukraine isn’t their fucking country so go get fucked, if they wanna have friends over to help scare the goons away of course they can it’s their fucking country.

SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 19:41 next collapse

Nato should just tell Russia and Trumpland to fuck thenselves and make Ukraine a member.

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 19:45 next collapse

Lavrov was the first foreign emissary to visit Trump in the Oval Office the first time they stole the election. At that time, our demented rapist revealed classified intelligence that burned some Israeli spies and everyone learned very quickly not to tell the gibbering fuckface anything if you wanted it to stay secret.

Since they sent Little Marco, I didn’t think they were serious anyway but now it seems ridiculously obvious.

bostondrivingisworse@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 20:06 next collapse

russia can accept deez nuts

A_A@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 20:44 next collapse

Delusional russ don’t “accept” reality… So what ?

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 21:41 next collapse

What… Uhhh… What are they going to do about it? Bomb London and eat nukes?

I know it’s escalatory but sometimes you have to accept a little escalation to show you’re willing. Just like a certain “Axis” in history they’re pushing because they think everyone is too afraid of an actual war. And appeasement directly led to their war because the other powers waited until it was so far gone it could only be war.

But escalating a little to egg their face now, (not bloody it), it punctures that belief.

Nalivai@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 17:46 collapse

They gonna order his bitch Trump, the wannabe emperor of the US, to pressure NATO. And the bitch will oblige.

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 20:58 collapse

I don’t think Europe cares.

Nalivai@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 23:02 collapse

US is still unbelievably rich and has an enormous army that they love to use. Europe will not bend the knee, but the shit will be very unpleasant after that.

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 23:20 collapse

Oh there’s no danger of the US trying to fight Europe militarily. Just the US going isolationist again.

Nalivai@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 05:09 collapse

I don’t know anymore. Maybe not outright fight with the EU at first, but I completely envision US army invading something on the European continent to help their best friend Putin. With Musk in charge and Trump also running around like a headless chichen, I don’t think I can be sure about anything anymore.

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 21 Feb 05:12 collapse

I’m pretty sure the American people would shut down D.C. To be honest any military adventurism is going to be hard for them to pull off after 20 years of fighting. But especially against our oldest allies.

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 22:08 next collapse

It’s sad how these mental infants think they can negotiate anything about Ukraine, when there is nobody present with a mandate to do so.
Lavrov is as bad as they come, and he can go fuck himself. Nothing he says has any value.
It’s not even interesting what they agree on, because it’s completely irrelevant. The only thing interesting is how Trump reacts when he realizes the free world combined will absolutely distance themselves from it.
Russia is of course playing along, because they can create discord that way. USA has a fascist leader, that prefer to talk to other fascist leaders, and not the traditional democratic allies of USA.

Trump is crashing USA as world leader for the 2nd time. But this time is worse, and he has done it right from the start of his presidency. Paving the way for a much quicker new world order where China dominates.

Without the support of all the allies, USA is not nearly as powerful as Trump may think they are.

fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee on 19 Feb 06:43 collapse

Its not funny and theyre not mental infants, its calculated, sociopathic geopolitical maneuvering by very capable, ruthless people

Buffalox@lemmy.world on 19 Feb 08:38 collapse

I wrote I find it sad, why do you think it would be funny?

exu@feditown.com on 19 Feb 06:35 next collapse

First 24 hours still not over?

reksas@sopuli.xyz on 19 Feb 08:42 next collapse

All the power russia has is the one given to it.

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reksas@sopuli.xyz on 19 Feb 10:55 collapse

if they were to use those for any reason, it would be horrible suicide for them. They could destroy the society as we know it with them but they couldnt stop the retaliation which would be so vengeance fueled I dont want to even think about it.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 04:11 collapse

There was a “nato honest reaction” meme that showed nuclear strikes on every city in Russia with some heavy house music over it.

I’ll see if I can dig it up.

Found the animation the meme used but not the meme itself. Ah well.

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Matriks404@lemmy.world on 19 Feb 13:13 next collapse

🎵How 'bout we do anyway? 🎶

Agent641@lemmy.world on 19 Feb 14:33 next collapse

Hitler wouldnt accept allied troops in France either

blackn1ght@feddit.uk on 19 Feb 21:06 next collapse

Too bad dickhead, Ukraine doesn’t accept Russian troops in Ukraine but here we are.

fluxion@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 02:23 collapse

Because they don’t want fucking peace you bunch of imbeciles