US moves to choke China’s role in electric vehicle supply chain (www.ft.com)
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Pons_Aelius@kbin.social on 02 Dec 2023 20:48 next collapse

The headline misses these details

The Biden administration has moved to choke off China’s role in the US’s electric vehicle supply chain

no US-manufactured EVs that include Chinese-made battery components will be eligible for the full subsidies

What if china made EV's are still cheaper than US made even with the subsidies?

I am reminded of the US response to Japanese cars in the 60s and 70s, which worked out so well for the US auto industry.

BombOmOm@lemmy.world on 02 Dec 2023 23:51 next collapse

What if china made EV’s are still cheaper than US made even with the subsidies?

Given how important it is to maintain critical supplies in friendly nations, there would likely be increased pushes to make Mexican manufactured batteries increasingly affordable. There is already a push to manufacture batteries there as there isn’t much worry of Mexico invading Taiwan and causing supply chains to instantly sever.

Marsupial@quokk.au on 03 Dec 2023 01:04 collapse

Nobody expects the Mexican invasion, that’s what makes it so deadly.

partial_accumen@lemmy.world on 03 Dec 2023 05:36 collapse

I am reminded of the US response to Japanese cars in the 60s and 70s, which worked out so well for the US auto industry.

I think it worked out pretty well for American auto workers in the end. I care less about the US auto companies and more about American auto workers. Honda, Toyota, Mazda and Nissan all have factories in the USA producing cars for domestic consumption.

Pons_Aelius@kbin.social on 03 Dec 2023 11:15 collapse

I think it worked out pretty well for American auto workers in the end.

Detroit used to be one of the most prosperous cities in the USA...

partial_accumen@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 2023 03:31 collapse

The decline of Detroit would have happened anyway, but perhaps not quite as extremely. It just doesn’t take as many humans to build cars today than it did in the 1950s.

tsonfeir@lemm.ee on 03 Dec 2023 00:06 next collapse

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Pons_Aelius@kbin.social on 03 Dec 2023 00:44 next collapse

The problem you face is that a lot of people, me included, see no paywall. (ff + ublock) So they may not know others can't.

Pons_Aelius@kbin.social on 03 Dec 2023 00:45 collapse

US moves to choke China’s role in electric vehicle supply chain
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The Biden administration has moved to choke off China’s role in the US’s electric vehicle supply chain with rules that critics allege will slow the transition from petrol-fuelled cars.

The US Treasury announced on Friday that from next month no US-manufactured EVs that include Chinese-made battery components will be eligible for the full subsidies offered by President Joe Biden’s $369bn landmark climate law.

Nor will EVs qualify for the Inflation Reduction Act incentives if they are made by companies with significant ties to the Chinese government or produced with a licensing agreement with a China-based or Beijing-controlled operator.

“With this guidance and the clarity that it will provide, we’re ensuring that the US electric vehicle future will be made in America,” said John Podesta, Biden’s top clean energy adviser.

The rules come after Biden met Chinese President Xi Jinping last month in a bid to ease tensions between the world’s two largest economies.

Podesta said: “China still dominates the supply chains for key technologies . . . they completely outpace the US and our allies on the production of batteries and their components.”

As well as dominating EV and battery production, China processes more than half of the world’s lithium, cobalt and graphite, which are crucial inputs.

Ahead of next year’s election, the Biden administration is trying to walk a fine line between its efforts to electrify the economy to cut emissions and its drive to create jobs and compete with China. The administration has set a 2030 target for EVs to represent 50 per cent of all new vehicle sales.

Pons_Aelius@kbin.social on 03 Dec 2023 00:45 collapse

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The rules are expected to reduce how many car models qualify for the full IRA tax credit of $7,500 per vehicle in the near term. They will also apply to $6bn of grants issued by the US’s 2021 infrastructure law and, from 2025, to critical minerals used in EV components.

“If you’re trying to source all of the components of an EV without drawing on any Chinese content . . . it’s going to be logistically more challenging and likely a more expensive product at this moment in time,” said Eli Hinckley, partner at Baker Botts. “It’s not a 2024 exercise. This is multi years of building out a supply chain.”

However, the administration said that carmakers would have a two-year transition period to adapt to regulations for small battery parts that lack tracing standards, such as electrolyte salts.

The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, which represents car and battery makers in the US, said the Treasury struck a “pragmatic balance” on the tax credit, and called the two-year transition period “significant and well-advised”.

The trade group had warned that the overly strict rules could eliminate all eligible electric vehicles on the market. Only about a fifth of EVs on sale in the US were eligible for full tax credits prior to Friday’s rules, the trade group estimated.

“Treasury’s effort to make the rules workable means the list of eligible vehicles won’t completely disappear in 2024,” the alliance said.

The US has seen a rush in EV supply chain investment since the IRA was passed by Congress last year. But many projects are not expected to come online until the second half of the decade. US carmakers including Ford, General Motors and Tesla have delayed their factory ambitions due to a slowdown in demand.

GM said its EVs were “well positioned” to qualify for the tax credit. Ford said it was reviewing the implications of the rules.

The Chinese embassy in Washington slammed the rules, calling them “another example of the US’s practices of unilateralism and economic bullying”.

“It is not conducive to the stabilisation and recovery of the global economy and the joint efforts of all countries to deal with the challenges of climate change,” the embassy said.

Republican politicians and domestic manufacturing and energy security advocates also criticised the rules, accusing the Biden administration of not going far enough to exclude Chinese participation.

Mike Gallagher, the Republican chair of the House select committee on China, said that the US Treasury had issued “naive” regulations that would “open the floodgates for American tax dollars to flow to Chinese companies complicit in trade violations and forced labour abuses”.

West Virginia Democratic senator Joe Manchin, a central architect of the IRA law, accused the Biden administration of “trying to find workarounds and delays that leave the door wide open for China to benefit off the backs of American taxpayers”.

John DeMaio, president of Hong Kong-based Graphex Group, a graphite processing company, said the new rules would help “accelerate” the company’s plans to move operations away from China, but acknowledged that they would be a “challenge” for industry to meet.

“It’s very hard to completely extricate ourselves from China,” said DeMaio, whose company is building a processing facility in Michigan. “It’s kind of like holding a wolf by the ears. You don’t like it necessarily, but you can’t let it go.”

Additional reporting from Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington

driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br on 03 Dec 2023 01:35 next collapse

I’m staring to see BYD cars in Brazil. Even if the US close the door to Chinese EV car manufacturers China have the rest of the world to sell.

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 02 Dec 2023 20:29 next collapse

if the us doesn’t want to make affordable electrics at least move the fuck over so soneone else can.

febra@lemmy.world on 03 Dec 2023 06:33 collapse

Why? I thought that the sooner we switch to EVs the better for everyone around.