naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca
on 12 Dec 2023 07:51
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China and Vietnam have a track record of resolving territorial disputes at the negotiating table. Both parties reached a rather happy compromise with the Gulf of Tonkin, and it’s exciting to see China once more shift to a position of compromise with Vietnam. This seems to have been spurred by the increasing economic cooperation between China and Vietnam (and specifically, between tech companies from Guangdong province and Hanoi).
The ROC still claims the entire contested Gulf of Tonkin area.
China has nine maritime neighbors (including Taiwan) but no settled maritime boundaries, due in part to China’s unwillingness to specify its maritime claims.
Maybe if you’re unable to settle with nine different countries, you’re the imperialist.
naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca
on 12 Dec 2023 15:21
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China (neither the PRC nor the ROC) was invited to discussions on the Treaty of San Francisco that decided Japanese war reparations following the Second World War. This is, of course, despite both the CPC (the governing party of the PRC) and the KMT (the governing party of the ROC) participating HEAVILY in the war against Japanese imperialists expansion.
Pick up a history book. There’s a reason both China and Taiwan claim the same territories in the South China Sea (plus minus, well, the Gulf of Tonkin). There’s a reason both parties have participated in land reclamation in the South China Sea. There’s a reason that Taiwan has had an outpost on some of those islands since 1946.
The South China Sea dispute is one founded on shared Chinese historical heritage. In fact, it’s one founded on the shared Chinese/Soviet heritage of a complete disregard from today’s West for their contributions towards attritioning Japanese and German resources (respectively) and ending the war.
The Allied successes in the Pacific Theatre post-1941 are largely a product of the quagmire that the Japanese had put themselves in in China: by late 1941, Japan had suffered a string of failures at the hands of the NRA while the CPC’s guerilla fighters caused havoc on Japanese supply lines. While Japan nominally had the resources to fight in the Pacific (particularly with their capture of the resource-rich Manchuria in 1932 and the oil-rich Dutch East Indies in 1942), their resources were sucked up by the growing complications in the Chinese Theatre and inhibited pointing their significant industrial base towards the American threat.
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China and Vietnam have a track record of resolving territorial disputes at the negotiating table. Both parties reached a rather happy compromise with the Gulf of Tonkin, and it’s exciting to see China once more shift to a position of compromise with Vietnam. This seems to have been spurred by the increasing economic cooperation between China and Vietnam (and specifically, between tech companies from Guangdong province and Hanoi).
The ROC still claims the entire contested Gulf of Tonkin area.
Famous Chinese table negotiations.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War
The Other Gulf of Tonkin Incident: China’s Forgotten Maritime Compromise
Maybe if you’re unable to settle with nine different countries, you’re the imperialist.
China (neither the PRC nor the ROC) was invited to discussions on the Treaty of San Francisco that decided Japanese war reparations following the Second World War. This is, of course, despite both the CPC (the governing party of the PRC) and the KMT (the governing party of the ROC) participating HEAVILY in the war against Japanese imperialists expansion.
Pick up a history book. There’s a reason both China and Taiwan claim the same territories in the South China Sea (plus minus, well, the Gulf of Tonkin). There’s a reason both parties have participated in land reclamation in the South China Sea. There’s a reason that Taiwan has had an outpost on some of those islands since 1946.
The South China Sea dispute is one founded on shared Chinese historical heritage. In fact, it’s one founded on the shared Chinese/Soviet heritage of a complete disregard from today’s West for their contributions towards attritioning Japanese and German resources (respectively) and ending the war.
The Allied successes in the Pacific Theatre post-1941 are largely a product of the quagmire that the Japanese had put themselves in in China: by late 1941, Japan had suffered a string of failures at the hands of the NRA while the CPC’s guerilla fighters caused havoc on Japanese supply lines. While Japan nominally had the resources to fight in the Pacific (particularly with their capture of the resource-rich Manchuria in 1932 and the oil-rich Dutch East Indies in 1942), their resources were sucked up by the growing complications in the Chinese Theatre and inhibited pointing their significant industrial base towards the American threat.